General Wrestling Discussion

trent said:
Dave at least knows what a decent match looks like.
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Just to be clear, Dave has given the same number of 5+ star matches to AEW in the 5 years it has existed as he has given ECW, WCW, ROH, TNA, and WWE combined throughout their entire histories. Does that sound right to you?
 
Luchador in Mexico had a lighttube completely impale and get stuck in his tricep mid-match:

 
is funny when the feds retards talk about how much better new york is doing when
a. the company doesnt exist anymore, they got folded into tko
b. they lost tv deals for fucking raw
 
Shao Khan said:
is funny when the feds retards talk about how much better new york is doing when
a. the company doesnt exist anymore, they got folded into tko
b. they lost tv deals for fucking raw
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Bro are you really going to mald on the internet like this because people rightfully shit on aew in this thread?

And what are you even going on about in this post lmao
 
Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
Then maybe his non-union Mexican equivalent
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all that really stands out off the top of my head was this one time when Sexy Star left AAA while she was the intergender tag champ w/ Penta, and Meltzer for some reason thought this was some big fucking deal somebody might mail a belt back to AAA, which happens only slightly less than titles being defended, and for that matter lucha belts are mostly a non-issue
 
This week's Dynamite ratings: 687k

Smackdown's return to the USA Network: 1.723m

Listen to Corny whine about this year's PWI 500:


Maki Itoh has made the list!

  1. Cody Rhodes
  2. Swerve Strickland
  3. Will Ospreay
  4. Seth "Freakin" Rollins
  5. Tetsuya Naito
  6. Damian Priest
  7. MJF
  8. Jon Moxley
  9. Gunther
  10. Mistico
  11. Samoa Joe
  12. Sami Zayn
  13. Drew McIntyre
  14. Bryan Danielson
  15. Moose
  16. SANADA
  17. Jey Uso
  18. ⁠El Hijo del Vikingo
  19. Mustafa Ali
  20. Eddie Kingston
  21. Kazuchika Okada
  22. Nic Nemeth
  23. ⁠Alex Shelley
  24. Orange Cassidy
  25. Alex Kane
  26. Adam Copeland
  27. ⁠LA Knight
  28. Trick Williams
  29. Christian Cage
  30. ⁠Ilja Dragunov
  31. Mark Briscoe
  32. Katsuhiko Nakajima
  33. ⁠Zack Sabre, Jr.
  34. "Speedball" Mike Bailey
  35. ⁠KENOH
  36. ⁠Mascara Dorada
  37. Logan Paul
  38. Michael Oku
  39. Krule
  40. ⁠EC3
  41. Yuma Anzai
  42. "Hangman" ⁠Adam Page
  43. Josh Alexander
  44. ⁠Satoshi Kojima
  45. Rey Mysterio
  46. Hiromu Takahashi
  47. Kaito Kiyomiya
  48. Carmelo Hayes
  49. David Finlay
  50. Hijo de Dr. Wagner
  51. ⁠Joe Hendry
  52. Bron Breakker
  53. ⁠Oba Femi
  54. Max The Impaler
  55. Randy Orton
  56. AJ Styles
  57. Claudio Castagnoli
  58. Kevin Owens
  59. Jack Perry
  60. El Desperado
  61. Atlantis Jr.
  62. ⁠Rocky Romero
  63. ⁠Ricochet
  64. ⁠Blake Christian
  65. ⁠Kyle Fletcher
  66. Solo Sikoa
  67. ⁠Konosuke Takeshita
  68. ⁠Finn Balor
  69. "Dirty" Dominik Mysterio
  70. Chris Sabin
  71. Yota Tsuji
  72. ⁠Santos Escobar
  73. ⁠Suge D
  74. Luis Mante
  75. ⁠Ethan Page
  76. ⁠Octagon Jr
  77. Matt Cardona
  78. ⁠Jake Lee
  79. ⁠Mance Warner
  80. Roderick Strong
  81. Hiroshi Tanahashi
  82. ⁠Go Shiozaki
  83. ⁠Hook
  84. Yuki Ueno
  85. Shingo Takagi
  86. ⁠Wheeler Yuta
  87. ⁠Daniel Garcia
  88. ⁠Mao
  89. Chad Gable
  90. Chris Jericho
  91. Yamato
  92. Alec Price
  93. Chris Brookes
  94. Jacob Fatu
  95. Je'Von Evans
  96. ⁠Matt Riddle
  97. ⁠Darby Allin
  98. Shota Umino
  99. ⁠Jessica Troy
  100. HAYATA
  101. Steve Maclin
  102. Kento Miyahara
  103. SHO
  104. DAGA
  105. Colby Corino
  106. Rina Yamashita
  107. Shun Skywalker
  108. Hechicero
  109. Shinsuke Nakamura
  110. Jay White
  111. Kid Lykos
  112. PAC
  113. Laurance Roman
  114. Ace Austin
  115. 1 Called Manders
  116. Bryan Keith
  117. Lee Moriarty
  118. Masha Slamovich
  119. Rickey Shane Page
  120. Ben-K
  121. Jeff Cobb
  122. EFFY
  123. Luke Jacobs
  124. Adam Priest
  125. Hirooki Goto
  126. AJ Francis
  127. Titan
  128. Calvin Tankman
  129. Laredo Kid
  130. Frankie Kazarian
  131. Minoru Suzuki
  132. Jake Parnell
  133. Jordan Oliver
  134. Noam Dar
  135. Rey Fenix
  136. Ricky Knight Jr
  137. Yuma Aoyagi
  138. Akira
  139. Megan Rayne
  140. Marcus Mathers
  141. Myron Reed
  142. Templario
  143. Yuya Uemera
  144. "Big" Bronson Reed
  145. Aigle Blanc
  146. Mike Santana
  147. Jake Something
  148. Chris Bey
  149. Marko Estrada
  150. Billie Starkz
  151. Kevin Blackwood
  152. Darius Carter
  153. Lee Johnson
  154. Alexander Hammerstone
  155. KENTA
  156. Jun Santos
  157. Delta
  158. Robert Dreissker
  159. Yuya Aok
  160. RUSH
  161. Adam Brooks
  162. Rising Hayato
  163. Alan Angels
  164. Hoodfoot
  165. Joey Janela
  166. Joe Alonzo
  167. Charlie Dempsey
  168. Kyo
  169. Robbie Eagles
  170. Titus Alexander
  171. Dalton Castle
  172. Sheamus
  173. Starboy Charlie
  174. Shane Taylor
  175. Spike Trivet
  176. Douki
  177. Star Jr
  178. Tomohiro Ishii
  179. Benjamin Tull
  180. Leon Slater
  181. Dijak
  182. Ren Narita
  183. Royce Isaacs
  184. Madoka Kikuta
  185. Jake Crist
  186. Powerhouse Hobbs
  187. John Wayne Murdoch
  188. Angel de Oro
  189. El Phantasmo
  190. Nick Wayne
  191. Stephen Wolf
  192. Kevin Ku
  193. Gringo Loco
  194. Gabe Kidd
  195. Pete Dunne
  196. Andrade
  197. Bobby Lashley
  198. PCO
  199. Peter Tihayni
  200. Shigehiro Irie
  201. Matt Tremont
  202. Tony D'Angelo
  203. Danhausen
  204. Trey Miguel
  205. Davey Vega
  206. QT Marshall
  207. Volador Jr
  208. Wes Lee
  209. Jack Jeter
  210. Naruki Doi
  211. Thom Latimer
  212. Tyler Bate
  213. Timothy Thatcher
  214. Tate Mayfairs
  215. Richard Halliday
  216. Ludwig Kaiser
  217. Joseph Fenech Jr
  218. Ultimo Guerrero
  219. Dragon Lee
  220. Henare
  221. Katsuyori Shibata
  222. Charli Evans
  223. KC Navarro
  224. The Beast Mortos
  225. Rei Saito
  226. Man Like Dereiss
  227. Eric Young
  228. Dan Tamura
  229. Tama Tonga
  230. Hayato Tamura
  231. Ichiban
  232. Slex
  233. Omos
  234. Yoh
  235. Stu Grayson
  236. Pentagon Jr
  237. Psycho Clown
  238. El Lindaman
  239. Kyle O'Reilly
  240. Ishin
  241. Suwama
  242. Drilla Moloney
  243. Brian Cage
  244. Andino
  245. Allie Katch
  246. Wardlow
  247. Hologram
  248. Jordan Cruz
  249. DMT Azul
  250. KUSHIDA
  251. Darian Bengston
  252. Matt Makowski
  253. Bárbaro Cavernario
  254. EVIL
  255. Ricky South
  256. Eddie Edwards
  257. Austin Theory
  258. Brandon Kirk
  259. Johnny Gargano
  260. Eel O'Neal
  261. Grayson Waller
  262. Rich Swann
  263. Masato Tanaka
  264. Lio Rush
  265. Tommaso Ciampa
  266. Eddie Dennis
  267. Taui Ishimori
  268. Sammy D
  269. Junior Benito
  270. Jordan Blade
  271. Gnarls Garvin
  272. Great-O-Khan
  273. Connor Mills
  274. Kevin Knight
  275. Lance Archer
  276. Jonathan Gresham
  277. Strong Machine J
  278. Cole Radrick
  279. Levaniel
  280. Komander
  281. The Miz
  282. Kofi Kingston
  283. Zachary Wentz
  284. Bad Dude Tito
  285. Sami Callihan
  286. Danny Limelight
  287. Hikuleo
  288. Potro de Oro
  289. Pagano
  290. TJP
  291. Jason Hotch
  292. Axel Tischer
  293. Guerrero Maya
  294. Mike D Vecchio
  295. Tom Lawlor
  296. Seigo Tachibana
  297. Aliss Ink
  298. Trent Seven
  299. Xavier Woods
  300. Jack Vaughn
  301. Dezmond Cole
  302. Intelecto 5 Estrelas
  303. Isaiah Broner
  304. Neon
  305. Hikaru Sato
  306. Duke Hudson
  307. Rhino
  308. Storm Grayson
  309. Slice Boogie
  310. Malcolm Monroe III
  311. Shuji Ishikawa
  312. Karrion Kross
  313. Flip Gordon
  314. Kota Sekifuda
  315. Cody Chhun
  316. Channing Thomas
  317. Killswitch
  318. Shelton Benjamin
  319. Jimmy Lloyd
  320. Mims
  321. Sam Adonis
  322. Euforia
  323. The Tuck Man
  324. Lance Anoa'i
  325. Dark Sheik
  326. Francesco Akira
  327. Jack Cartwheel
  328. Paris De Silva
  329. Galeno del Mal
  330. Esfinge
  331. Trent Beretta
  332. Evan Rivers
  333. Emman Azman
  334. Texano Jr
  335. Sonico
  336. Tarik
  337. Will Allday
  338. Myung-Jae-Lee
  339. Zilla Fatu
  340. Jimmy Townsend
  341. Jack Morris
  342. Ben Braxton
  343. Jiah Jewell
  344. Dirty Dango
  345. John Hawking
  346. Ninja Mack
  347. Kenny K
  348. Chris Adonis
  349. Arez
  350. Mad Dog Connelly
  351. Raj Dhesi
  352. Ricky Starks
  353. Dralístico
  354. Kerry Morton
  355. Cha Cha Charlie
  356. Caveman Ugg
  357. Oleg Boltin
  358. Eddy Thorpe
  359. Devon Monroe
  360. Shane Mercer
  361. Mylo
  362. Pretty Boy Smooth
  363. Psycho Mike
  364. Manny Ferno
  365. Joshua Bishop
  366. Josh Woods
  367. Fuminori Abe
  368. Lexis King
  369. Clarke Connors
  370. Masa Kitamiya
  371. Derek Dillinger
  372. Sonny Kiss
  373. Callum Newman
  374. Manabu Soya
  375. Bobby Beverly
  376. Vinnie Massaro
  377. Dante Chen
  378. J Boujii
  379. Vito Fratelli
  380. Landon Hale
  381. Evil Uno
  382. Rico González
  383. Zoe Sager
  384. Alex Colon
  385. Jamesen Shook
  386. Hijo de Pirata Morgan
  387. Angelico
  388. Xavant
  389. Travis Williams
  390. Ryan Clancy
  391. Silas Mason
  392. Clint Margera
  393. Dustin Rhodes
  394. Barrett Brown
  395. Chris Basso
  396. Microman
  397. Matthew Justice
  398. Judas Icarus
  399. Yoichi – Inamura
  400. Sawyer Wreck
  401. Ray Gonzalez
  402. Big Fudge
  403. Sam Holloway
  404. Travis Toxic
  405. Alpha Zo
  406. Sidney Akeem
  407. Zak Paterson
  408. Cheeseburger
  409. Neil Diamondcutter
  410. Vinny Pacifico
  411. Hyan
  412. Journey Fatu
  413. Will Kiedis
  414. Madman Fulton
  415. Tre Lamar
  416. Shawn Spears
  417. Robb Radke
  418. O'Shay Edwards
  419. Luke Kurtis
  420. Danny Demanto
  421. Goldy
  422. Robbie X
  423. Jaden Newman
  424. Ivar
  425. Willie Mack
  426. MV Young
  427. Exodus Prime
  428. Billy Dixon
  429. Façade
  430. GPA
  431. Jody Threat
  432. Aaron Rourke
  433. Sandra Moone
  434. Rhino
  435. Fuego del Sol
  436. Frontman Jan
  437. Valiente
  438. Peter Olisander
  439. Brian Johnson
  440. Quiet Storm
  441. Tristan Archer
  442. Kaun
  443. Bam Sullivan
  444. Ashton Starr
  445. Hartenbower
  446. Gary Jay
  447. Aaron Solo
  448. Mikey Montgomery
  449. Killian McMurphy
  450. Renzo Rose
  451. Austin Luke
  452. Tony Deppen
  453. Baron Corbin
  454. Laynie Luck
  455. Eli Everfly
  456. Maki Itoh
  457. Charles Mason
  458. Robert Anthony
  459. Ulka Sasaki
  460. Grimm
  461. Dimitri Alexanderov
  462. Vipress
  463. Steve Pena
  464. Logan Knight
  465. LSG
  466. Kristian Ross
  467. Flash Morgan Webster
  468. Griffin McCoy
  469. Solomon Tupu
  470. Amira Lukens
  471. Dani Luna
  472. Johnny TV
  473. Rohit Raju
  474. Dragon Dia
  475. Emersyn Jayne
  476. Jordan Breaks
  477. Sierra
  478. RIP Byson
  479. Tony Nese
  480. Vaughn Vertigo
  481. Epydemius Jr
  482. Joey Avalon
  483. Aiden Prince
  484. Antoni Voorhees
  485. Mike Skyros
  486. Alexia Nicole
  487. Slim J
  488. Myles Millennium
  489. Kody Manhorn
  490. Noah Veil
  491. Lucas Disangro
  492. Isaiah Wolf
  493. Rohan Raja
  494. Kristaria
  495. Tjay Sykes
  496. Smiley
  497. Anakin Murphy
  498. Santana Jackson
  499. Travis Lee
  500. Memes
 
Smackdown on USA will become a 3 hour show in January 2025 when Raw moves to Netflix.

WWE have started production of Lucha Bros merch. If they can stay uninjured for a little while, they could be big in WWE.

Next week's AEW Grand Slam will be up against a Caitlin Clark final, which is expected to get record ratings for the WNBA.

Dump Matsumoto and The Crush Gals in WWE: From the WWE Vault

 
Nicholas II of Russia said:
AEW defenders are the most pathetic example of marks in forums.

I can't really escape from them, not even here.
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It's honestly fucking horrible how bad Smarks in general have become even with their own containment fed, they have felt far too emboldened to make demands ever since Vince caved in 2014 with the whole Daniel Bryan temper tantrum (and fucked the company up for the rest of the decade honestly), even with AEW existing they still watch WWE and bitch about every little thing they don't like, they have no understanding of what makes Wrestling entertaining in the first place, I browse normie sites sometimes and they seethe about how much popular WWE is now in comparison and they don't understand why people aren't watching AEW, I even saw one seething about how WWE was up in Black Viewership despite Swerve being AEW Champion at the time lmfao.
 
Caddo Cobgang said:
It's honestly fucking horrible how bad Smarks in general have become even with their own containment fed, they have felt far too emboldened to make demands ever since Vince caved in 2014 with the whole Daniel Bryan temper tantrum (and fucked the company up for the rest of the decade honestly), even with AEW existing they still watch WWE and bitch about every little thing they don't like, they have no understanding of what makes Wrestling entertaining in the first place, I browse normie sites sometimes and they seethe about how much popular WWE is now in comparison and they don't understand why people aren't watching AEW, I even saw one seething about how WWE was up in Black Viewership despite Swerve being AEW Champion at the time lmfao.
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The thing is that. AEW since the very beginning was presented as the cool and awesome alternative, following something on the mantra of "for fans, by fans" so many marks can feel identified and feel like home in AEW and selling them the illusion that they could make the decisions about what can happen in Dynamite in the PPVs.

Of course, this was made when WWE was in their worst years of its existence, presenting some of the worst shows ever conceived so of course AEW skyrocketed in popularity. But they clearly didn't know how to mantain that popularity, and now that WWE is giving the best product they had in years, you remove that identity of being the alternative from them, and what do they have now? Nothing. Just The Elite and Jack Perry, who are tv rating poison and because of their position in the company you can't get rid of them and Swerve Strickland having the most mild championship reign in the company's history. They are in a bad spot right now, and I dare even to say that it will not get better for them in the following months.
 
Nicholas II of Russia said:
AEW defenders are the most pathetic example of marks in forums.

I can't really escape from them, not even here.
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Agreed. To be honest here, AEW had its positives but unfortunately they've gone downhill in recent years due to several controversies involving many big wrestlers. For example when they fired CM Punk not once but twice (first time during All Out 2022 and again at All In 2023). Attendance pretty much went down big time after that.

LikeAStone 2.0 said:
Luchador in Mexico had a lighttube completely impale and get stuck in his tricep mid-match:

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Damn this has got to hurt. Straight up ECW levels of brutality dialed up to 11 LOL. Then again, that's deathmatch wrestling for you.
 
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