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MirrorNoir said:
Make Garcia the Wyatt Sick gimp. Nikki Cross keeps him gagged and in a gimp suit with "please save me!" written on his bondage hood where his face should be and he's constantly being tattooed, when he's out of the suit, by Dexter with increasingly disturbing tattoo artwork (snakes, beetles and insects, etc) to further dehumanize him while the rest of the Wyatt Sick belittle/bully him as far as Garcia being the torture slave of the group.

SOMEONE coming straight out of AEW has to eventually get buried and it might as well be Garcia. Bonus points, you can have Bo Dallas torment Garcia by reminding him "You wanted to be a sports entertainer! So now we are going to tie you up and let Dexter draw a realistic looking snake unhinging it's jaw and eating a rabbit on your hand and forearm and afterwards, it's back into the gimp suit so Nikki can fuck you like they did back in Georgia under Ole Anderson!!". Not to mention the eventual in ring debate (with William Regal as moderator in full deadpan mode) between Rhea and Nikki over ethical BDSM and Rhea going full moral fag over Nikki crossing countless lines of acceptable conduct as a dommy mommy by treating Garcia as a literal rape toy and Dom being presented as what a proper dommy mommy sub should be (IE respected and treated as a human being who can say no when shit gets beyond their ability to safely handle it).
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Hey, now you're just ripping off the Miserable Faithful from Billy Corgan's NWA. Whatever drugs your dealer got you are past due, either get the real schizo shit or keep it to your AO3 account.

For those that don't know: Yes, NWA has an actual wrestling gimp. There's no context, he's just there.
 
Unnecessary Surgery Land said:
Yeah it was weird to act like this was novel. It was such a “hey guys BALLS KICKING am I right?” From the lackluster commentators
And the crowd was so meh and so were the wrestlers.

They climbed a ladder to grab a bag as a representation of “kicking the family jewels”

A midget lost and he got kicked in the balls which made it actually somewhat depressing.

Yeah Billy doesn’t know what he’s doing
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Decided to check this out. Yeesh. I've seen indie shows at American Legions that were worlds better than this. Was the midget Hornswoggle?

And most of the wrestlers were toothpicks or straight up man tits fat. The set/ring looks cheap as fuck. At least in their early episodes it kinda looked like the old NWA stuff on TBS. This is just sad. "Performing" in front of maybe 30 people and you could see some of them looking at their phones instead of the "action" in the ring.
 
Daniel Garcia is another victim of Jericho's Vortex of Doom.

The kid had some kind of upside in the beginning, but then Jericho entered the picture and put him in JAS and now we have him doing the retarded Disco Inferno shtick.
 
Nicholas II of Russia said:
Daniel Garcia is another victim of Jericho's Vortex of Doom.

The kid had some kind of upside in the beginning, but then Jericho entered the picture and put him in JAS and now we have him doing the retarded Disco Inferno shtick.
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Alternatively, they tried to make chicken salad out of chicken shit with him and it just wasn't happening.
 
Lmao, the crowd was absolutely dead for the Sasha Banks segment. They barely made noise for even a suspened, but not really, but actually is suspended, Britt Baker via satellite.

I'mma real anime gurl said:
What did I miss so far on Dynamite, I caught the Swerve and Hangman segment.
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They opened with Kyle Fletcher vs MJF. Callis tried to help Fletcher by sneaking him a screwdriver to use on MJF while he distracted the ref, but Fletcher pussed out and MJF nut-shotted him instead, and then punched him with his trophy ring. Silly face stuff.

I'm barely paying attention as usual, so I'm not sure what else happened.

Edit: Oh, I remembered that there was a Mariah May, Toni Storm segment where the refs cock-blocked Toni from getting shoe-revenge.
 
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I know it's a work (doubt it though because aew indy darlings are some of the most sensitive fucking losers in the business), but one of my biggest gripes with modern wrestling is the constant mention of the internet and what people say on it. As well as wrestlers being terminally online and not just pulling back the curtain, but actively inviting everybody to check out what's going on behind it. And I know, the internet has been mentioned since the 90's but obviously not to this degree. Like I get it bros, it's part of the zeitgeist so it's going to get brought up but fuck me. There's just something so childish about it. The turn off your screen and walk away tweet comes to mind every time somebody does this because it's obvious that it's actually getting to them. Mega I'm dunking on da trowlls energy. Thin-skinned loser shit.

And ok, I know - kayfabe is dead and he's never going to get a return pop at MSG, but it still rankles. Maybe @GloryHole Stalker or some of the other elder statesmen of this thread can school me on how magazine and newspaper criticism was received back in the days. Comparatively speaking I would think it would have had more weight. Urinalists, at least back then, were deemed more trustworthy than now and an authority figure of sorts, so I could see why a wrestler would have wanted to respond. Main point is there's a big difference between getting your trunks in a bunch over what David S. Quire of the Sunday Afternoon Times wrote and what ducklover566 said on xitter to his 3 bot followers.
 
Imagine drunk Flair on Twitter in the 80s right after boning 3 redneck rats. It would have been great.

OJ Simpson said:
school me on how magazine and newspaper criticism was received back in the days
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WWF hated guys like Mushnick doing articles about them due to them always being negative and being about scandals.

And Hogan wasn't a fan of the Observer 30 years ago.

 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
jfc JR looks and sounds like shit
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That's because he is Half-Past Dead.

Storm v May is stealing the interest for the fans there. Maybe Tony should take a punt and make Mariah May vs Toni Storm as the All-In main event.
 
OJ Simpson said:
I know it's a work (doubt it though because aew indy darlings are some of the most sensitive fucking losers in the business), but one of my biggest gripes with modern wrestling is the constant mention of the internet and what people say on it. As well as wrestlers being terminally online and not just pulling back the curtain, but actively inviting everybody to check out what's going on behind it. And I know, the internet has been mentioned since the 90's but obviously not to this degree. Like I get it bros, it's part of the zeitgeist so it's going to get brought up but fuck me. There's just something so childish about it. The turn off your screen and walk away tweet comes to mind every time somebody does this because it's obvious that it's actually getting to them. Mega I'm dunking on da trowlls energy. Thin-skinned loser shit.

And ok, I know - kayfabe is dead and he's never going to get a return pop at MSG, but it still rankles. Maybe @GloryHole Stalker or some of the other elder statesmen of this thread can school me on how magazine and newspaper criticism was received back in the days. Comparatively speaking I would think it would have had more weight. Urinalists, at least back then, were deemed more trustworthy than now and an authority figure of sorts, so I could see why a wrestler would have wanted to respond. Main point is there's a big difference between getting your trunks in a bunch over what David S. Quire of the Sunday Afternoon Times wrote and what ducklover566 said on xitter to his 3 bot followers.
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When I started watching (WWF circa 1979) the only "mainstream" coverage wrestling had in my area was articles, or blurbs Gorilla Monsoon wrote in a local Philly or New Jersey paper. In 81/ 82 he infamously wrote that Superstar Billy Graham had died. To this day, it's not clear if it was a shoot or rib.
The mainstream coverage started during the Hogan era. Generally, it seemed to either be skunks like John Stossel trying to "prove" wrestling is fake, or more positive, but incredulous articles about how popular Hogan/WWF was at the time. Also, when a wrestler legit roughed up fans ( Paul Orndorff springs to mind) that got some salacious press in the local papers.
About a year into Hogan's reign, articles started coming out, shitting in Hogan because he was supposed to be an All American good guy, but wrestled like a heel.
Listening to Jim Cornette, the only time the wrestlers really concerned themselves with legit news coverage was when it tried to " expose" the business. And the reaction seemed to come in the form of threatened/actual violence. So the wrestlers were probably thin skinned weirdos back then too.
 
OJ Simpson said:
I know it's a work (doubt it though because aew indy darlings are some of the most sensitive fucking losers in the business), but one of my biggest gripes with modern wrestling is the constant mention of the internet and what people say on it. As well as wrestlers being terminally online and not just pulling back the curtain, but actively inviting everybody to check out what's going on behind it. And I know, the internet has been mentioned since the 90's but obviously not to this degree. Like I get it bros, it's part of the zeitgeist so it's going to get brought up but fuck me. There's just something so childish about it. The turn off your screen and walk away tweet comes to mind every time somebody does this because it's obvious that it's actually getting to them. Mega I'm dunking on da trowlls energy. Thin-skinned loser shit.

And ok, I know - kayfabe is dead and he's never going to get a return pop at MSG, but it still rankles. Maybe @GloryHole Stalker or some of the other elder statesmen of this thread can school me on how magazine and newspaper criticism was received back in the days. Comparatively speaking I would think it would have had more weight. Urinalists, at least back then, were deemed more trustworthy than now and an authority figure of sorts, so I could see why a wrestler would have wanted to respond. Main point is there's a big difference between getting your trunks in a bunch over what David S. Quire of the Sunday Afternoon Times wrote and what ducklover566 said on xitter to his 3 bot followers.
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Wrestling is unique as it embraced internet rumor shit extremely early. ECW and WCW loved doing it. Paul Heyman talking about people being poached from ECW. Hulk Hogan ripping into Dave Meltzer live on PPV which lead to Dave getting a Christmas bonus. Both of these happened in 1995 and it got worse as time went on, stopping for a while after the WCW/ECW buyout then being reintroduced to explain shit like Bizarro World post Wrestlemania reactions. Now it’s ubiquitous in every wrestling company out there. WWE, AEW, TNA etc
 
XYZpdq Jr. said:
jfc JR looks and sounds like shit
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>Had Bell's Palsey for about three decades.
>In his seventies and is a smoker.

Yup that checks out. I'm more impressed he's still willing to do this in his advanced age. Even part-time. I say good for JR. Just hope he doesn't pull a Lawler and have a heart attack on air.
 
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