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edgeedgnedgy said:
But no ethical therapist would want to help convince someone that they are not trans
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For the fucked up values of "ethics" that we have today, for many therapists this is true. I'm not saying that you should see a therapist and ask to be detrans'd. You should see a therapist and say that what you want to work on is (say) your body issues and trauma. You'll wind up mentioning that you have gender issues but this doesn't need to be the centerpiece of it all.
 
It doesn't seem like you actually want to steer away from being a tranny, you're just not happy about what your lot in life would be if you committed to it.
 
ScamL Likely said:
It doesn't seem like you actually want to steer away from being a tranny, you're just not happy about what your lot in life would be if you committed to it.
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OP is like someone in a cult who's just walked in on the guru diddling little kids. She's still brainwashed, but she knows that shit is fucked up. She is in a cult. What her moment of truth was I'd be curious to know, though.
 
edgeedgnedgy said:
But no ethical therapist would want to help convince someone that they are not trans
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A truly ethical therapist (if any such mythical beasts remain) will recognise putative transition for what it is; a symptom of an underlying issue. You mention conversion therapy; what is is that process as you understand it?
 
Can I ask why you choose to present as male rather than tomboy or, as Rafal Gan Ganowicz put it, a "bulldyke"?
Wouldn't coming to terms with your lack of femininity and not caring what the world thinks about your boyishness be a better way to go about?
 
I can’t tell who’s trolling anymore.

OP, why the fuck would you come here of all places, to seek help?
 
DO NOT FUCKING GET SURGERY. You WILL regret it later.

If you suffer from gender dysphoria, I recommend traditional therapy.
 
PururinSenpai said:
Can I ask why you choose to present as male rather than tomboy or, as Rafal Gan Ganowicz put it, a "bulldyke"?
Wouldn't coming to terms with your lack of femininity and not caring what the world thinks about your boyishness be a better way to go about?
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FtMs are ruining tomboys and bulldykes. I kind of liked tomboys and some of my best friends are bulldykes. Bring back the tomboys and bulldykes.

OP, do you like men or women?
Wraith said:
Wasn't there a medicine something with a c ends with ide that you give to them and it removes the gender dysmorphic disorder thing and brings them back to normal?
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Orap (pimozide). Evidence isn't spectacular but it has worked for people.
 
edgeedgnedgy said:
Hi, I have been lurking this forum for a while now. I am ESL and this is my first post so please don't be too harsh

I am FTM trans (pre-HRT/surgery, have only transitioned socially) and have identified as such for a while. Not a trender, I always wanted to be male, even as a child. But after seeing the way the world views us I fear that I will never be able to live a normal life and will never find love

I don't want to be this way but I can't imagine detransitioning and going back to living as a girl. That isn't me.

I don't know what to do. There are no ethical therapists that would want to convince a trans person that they are not trans. That's basically conversion therapy

>inb4 41%
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The problem with trannies is that they are all not only insufferable, histrionic assholes but that they demand everyone conform to their lunacy. If you choose to troon out, you will be surrounded by troons, which is a very bad thing indeed. You will be forced to adopt the most vile, outlandish marxist positions imaginable. THAT will be what isolates you socially , probably irreversibly.
SOunds kinda like Conversion Therapy, only a mirror image,,doesn't it?

If I was in your position, I'd go make friends in the gay community. You'll find a lot of folks who are vilified as "transphobic gays" are decent people. Talk to older lesbians. Figure things out for yourself rather than accepting a very unhealthy dogma wholesale.

You seem young, and I feel for you.
Please look at the Kevin Gibes thread on here. Once you get medically trooned, it's a horrorshow. You'll never be able to undo it. And your fear of being unlovable (at least in the physical sense) will become a reality. No chick wants a mangled hunk of taint molded into a chorizo jammed up her. Look at the pictures. It's fucking horrific.

There's no shame being a plain ol' lesbian.
Be well, Fren.
 
thick internet digit web said:
yes you did you imbecile, you said you were n FTM tranny but didn't even go on hormones so you've basically changed your twitter bio pronouns IRL and then claimed you wasn't happy transitioning. stop being such a virgin, you're falling down the incel slippery slope
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I haven't gone on hormones yet because I am young and live with an unsupportive family
 
Just A Butt said:
I can’t tell who’s trolling anymore.

OP, why the fuck would you come here of all places, to seek help?
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To be completely fair, this site is a pretty comprehensive archive of troonery, from start to finish. It's certainly full of information, if not sympathetic opinions.
 
edgeedgnedgy said:
I haven't gone on hormones yet because I am young and live with an unsupportive family
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You should be thankful your “unsupportive” family has thus far stopped you from mutilating your genitals.

Also, fuck off, you’re too young to be here.
 
Edit: Please stop telling me to get therapy. As I said before no therapists would be willing to help me with this
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Gender dysphoria is easily treatable, the underlying problem is depression. That is the only effective treatment for it. Once again, DO NOT get surgery.

I don't know what you mean when you say that 'no therapist' is willing to help you with this; that's just not true, so you're either lying or you're misunderstanding what we're trying to tell you.

Get therapy, it will help. Everyone is telling you to get therapy for a good fucking reason. You asked for advice, now listen.
 
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PururinSenpai said:
Can I ask why you choose to present as male rather than tomboy or, as Rafal Gan Ganowicz put it, a "bulldyke"?
Wouldn't coming to terms with your lack of femininity and not caring what the world thinks about your boyishness be a better way to go about?
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Because I have gender dysphoria. I don't want to be a masculine woman, I want to be a man. I hate my body. I I want to have a male body
 
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