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Remove Goat said:
Need I say more? I don't even know how you can be both gay (as into men) and trans (as in mtf), troons are dumb.
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Well, technically you can be a “trans lesbian” or “trans gay” since being attracted to a certain sex and having gender euphoria aren’t mutually exclusive, HOWEVER 99.99% of those trans lesbians/gays say that so they can shame real lesbians and gays into having sex with them since no one would fuck them when they where “cishets”, multiple cows here are an example of this.
 
Fangsofjeff said:
One they might be able to claim as one of their own is Elagabalus, roman emperor. We don't know much about him. It seems he was unpopular with the populace because he disrespected the dominant religion, married a vestal virgin and tried to force everyone to worship his god Elegabal. He was murdered four years into his reign.

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While his blasphemy was shocking, he was also known for his extravagant lifestyle and perpetual horniness. People say he might have been transgender because he liked to crossdress and once said he would richly reward any doctor who could give him a vagina.


All in all, he's not very different from modern day MTFs who transition for a fetish. He just wanted to coom.

But if we're going to use a modern term like transgender to describe him, we should also use our modern definition of rape to describe how he selected his sexual partners. I doubt Aquilia Severa the vestal virgin was happy about her marriage since traditionally, vestal virgins who lost their virginity would be buried alive. 😟
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It’s interesting that today, all a boy needs to develop a porn addiction that turns him into a troomer is a typical middle class childhood and the internet, while thousands of years ago, you had to be the Emperor of Rome to assemble that much free time and degenerate fap material (which in Ancient Rome required live sex shows).

How do you even escalate your porn addiction when you’re the emperor of Rome? Normally abducting numerous people and forcing them to participate in live orgies for your amusement is more like, end game. But for the emperor it’s where you start.
 
Further Stonewall sperging- Large amounts of prior stories focused the actual start of the rioting with Storm DeLarverie- a butch,black lesbian. Not only has she been written over, groups marching with banners proclaiming the "true" origin of Stonewall have gotten in shit for being ebil bigots.
Adding insult to injury, after she died some absolute fuckhead wrote an article insisting she was actually a trans man. I can't find it so I'm hoping the massive backlash from Storme's friends and family got it deleted.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reme...ited-the-stonewall_b_5933c061e4b062a6ac0ad09e Some general info.
 
Agricola said:
I'm not sure if this counts but Casimir Pulaski.

Pulaski was a Polish cavalryman who came to America to fight the British during the Revolutionary War. Pulaski, and the Hungarian Michael Fabriczy, are regarded as "The Fathers of American Cavalry". Pulaski died in the Battle of Savannah and the fate of his remains was always a debated thing. Some said he was buried at sea, while others alleged he was buried at different places. In 1996 some team excavated human remains from one such location and did all kinds of tests on it. They said the hip of the skeleton looked feminine so now, Casimir Fucking Pulaski, is alleged to be intersex and if you go to his wiki page it says he was LGBT.

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I only include this because trans acolytes like to talk about intersex people and shit and Casimir Pulaski doesn't deserve this kind of character assassination.

www.nytimes.com

Casimir Pulaski, Polish Hero of the Revolutionary War, Was Most Likely Intersex, Researchers Say

Disputed remains were the right height and age and showed injuries consistent with the general’s life. There was just one catch: “The skeleton looked very female.”
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Spooky Bones said:
Try telling this to a Chicago Polack and see what happens.
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10 bucks that a Polack if you tell them that Pulaski was a woman will tell you that Skłodowska (Marie Skłodowska Curie) was also a woman and you will be standing there trying to figure out what happened when they fuck off into sunset laughing their ass of. Because this is the funniest thing since Copernicus was also a woman.

That being said- it's only English speaking sphere who are so fucked up and hung over the sex/gender thing. In Slavic languages you can't even talk about somebody without expressing their explicit sex, so we didn't even have proper linguistics to adopt this shit, because if you're trying to express it - it just sounds like fucked up google translate.

That being said- nobody in Poland considers Pulaski anything other than a man- he was born with a penis, which is why he got a very male name, he was socialized as a boy and he died traditionally hotheaded death by waving his sabre, as any good Polish soldier should. The fact he had female genetics changes nothing, except to add interesting factoid to his already interesting life. And I checked and it's only English wiki that places him as LGBT.
 
JambledUpWords said:
I think one of the most annoying things I see on Twitter is claiming that before colonization of non-white countries, people were more accepting of “other genders”. They’ll use India and pre-colonial Americas to prove their point. Thing is, is that these cultures still had strict gender roles despite that. On top of it, being outside the norm would give you some benefits, but lots of drawbacks. Like, you might be regarded as a spirit leader, but trying to move beyond that would be near impossible. Other times, it meant that you’d be used for sex and never be able to marry. They treat this as some sort of evidence of how pre-colonial nations were more “progressive” than white countries, but fail to see aspects of these practices that weren’t actually good for a society.
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I've been wondering about this.
Trans activists usually paint themselves as the most persecuted - much more persecuted than cis gay males.
But primitive cultures seem to handle a man who assumes the traditional female gender role in an obvious way much better than a masculine guy who also happens to suck cock.
You even see this in prisons: Gay men will make themselves look more effeminate to avoid problems. The prison population wants clear obvious roles - they want to know where you stand with one look at you.
There are also plenty of countries where mutilating your genitals is legal but gay sex is a crime.

Wouldn't this mean that trans people are lower on the "progressive stack"?
 
garakfan69 said:
I've been wondering about this.
Trans activists usually paint themselves as the most persecuted - much more persecuted than cis gay males.
But primitive cultures seem to handle a man who assumes the traditional female gender role in an obvious way much better than a masculine guy who also happens to suck cock.
You even see this in prisons: Gay men will make themselves look more effeminate to avoid problems. The prison population wants clear obvious roles - they want to know where you stand with one look at you.
There are also plenty of countries where mutilating your genitals is legal but gay sex is a crime.

Wouldn't this mean that trans people are lower on the "progressive stack"?
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The oldschool stuff wasn't dudes cutting there dicks off for sexual pleasure. Its like if today a man where to do laundry and a woman where to pay bills.
 
Fangsofjeff said:
One they might be able to claim as one of their own is Elagabalus, roman emperor. We don't know much about him. It seems he was unpopular with the populace because he disrespected the dominant religion, married a vestal virgin and tried to force everyone to worship his god Elegabal. He was murdered four years into his reign.
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Huh I sure can't put my finger on why the name of that god seems fitting for a Troon Emperor to choose as their patron. Not one bit.

Funny that the image trying to lionize Elagabalus makes no mention of what made him so incredibly unpopular or any other parts of the historical situation. No, clearly its because he's TOO FAB for these stick in the mud romans who regularly celebrate Saturnalia and may have regularly strangled war prisoners ritualistically. No, no they were just offended by ol' Elgal just being too much of a fagzilla.

Edit: Also of course the art makes them look like a slightly gayer Steven Universe.
 
There's a guy on Twitter, apparently going by his real name, who was at the Stonewall Inn when the trouble started that first night. When he sees the BS stories in Pink News etc. that say Stonewall riot leaders were trans, he tries to get them to correct their articles so that they're factual, but of course he is probably fighting a losing battle because Pink News and the rest of the woke world don't want to know that trans people used to be so rare that they don't have much of a place at all in history. They only want to hear about troons being important, noble historical figures rather than entitled, lying, aggressive assholes. I don't blame the guy for being pissed about trannies rewriting the history of an event he actually witnessed and participated in.

Apparently history is also being rewritten to say that troons invented/started Pride parades and Pride celebrations, and this guy is pissed about that too because he also played a part in getting Pride off the ground. He says, nope, no troons involved in that, either.

 
Box of Shame said:
There's a guy on Twitter, apparently going by his real name, who was at the Stonewall Inn when the trouble started that first night. When he sees the BS stories in Pink News etc. that say Stonewall riot leaders were trans, he tries to get them to correct their articles so that they're factual, but of course he is probably fighting a losing battle because Pink News and the rest of the woke world don't want to know that trans people used to be so rare that they don't have much of a place at all in history. They only want to hear about troons being important, noble historical figures rather than entitled, lying, aggressive assholes. I don't blame the guy for being pissed about trannies rewriting the history of an event he actually witnessed and participated in.

Apparently history is also being rewritten to say that troons invented/started Pride parades and Pride celebrations, and this guy is pissed about that too because he also played a part in getting Pride off the ground. He says, nope, no troons involved in that, either.

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LGBTQ Civil War when?
 
Coleslaw said:
Why does anybody deserve any glory for starting a riot when everybody else was achieving shit like the moon landing?
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Chimping out over not getting free shit is in right now.
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Troons don't care that their whole history is fake because even their identities aren't real after all. If you can fake being someone else then nothing is real.
You can show them the facts about Stonewall and they won't care, because it doesn't put troons on the front page. And if trannies started Stonewall we have a lot of history before and after this event. Troons weren't in the Mattachine Society or Daughter's of Bilitis, they didn't care about the AIDS crisis, troons didn't help dying people, fags and dykes took care of them with their own effort and money.
Just when things were back to normal and gay acceptance grew in the mid 90s and early oughties, they latched to the LGB movement like parasites, at the beginning it was because a lot of trannies were same sex attracted, but as time went on, AGPs and Fujoshis joined it creating the mess we have today.
And about transwashing of historical figures, is worse. Joan of Arc is a national hero for the cheese-eating monkeys, in their closed and deranged minds they think that a woman can't be a national hero, then our own medieval queen that let Christopher Colombus discover America and create one of the biggest empire ever is a troon.
TL;DR: Troons lie and their history is fake and gay.
 
Fangsofjeff said:
One they might be able to claim as one of their own is Elagabalus, roman emperor. We don't know much about him. It seems he was unpopular with the populace because he disrespected the dominant religion, married a vestal virgin and tried to force everyone to worship his god Elegabal. He was murdered four years into his reign.

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While his blasphemy was shocking, he was also known for his extravagant lifestyle and perpetual horniness. People say he might have been transgender because he liked to crossdress and once said he would richly reward any doctor who could give him a vagina.







All in all, he's not very different from modern day MTFs who transition for a fetish. He just wanted to coom.

But if we're going to use a modern term like transgender to describe him, we should also use our modern definition of rape to describe how he selected his sexual partners. I doubt Aquilia Severa the vestal virgin was happy about her marriage since traditionally, vestal virgins who lost their virginity would be buried alive. 😟


This is a forum to gawk at lolcows, what do you expect? The whole transgender movement is like a train full of cows crashing into a train full of clowns, creating a surreal explosion of lolmilk that splashes all over popular culture. It's quite fascinating to watch. 😃
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The funniest part is right above the "Some(who?) consider him an early transgender icon" horseshit on his wiki page, is the following quote:
"An example of a modern historian's assessment would be Adrian Goldsworthy's: "Elagabalus was not a tyrant, but he was an incompetent, probably the least able emperor Rome had ever had.""
They best they can give us is one of the worst emperors of Rome, and that's saying something.
 
Dennis Rader is a troon and he has some historical importance right?

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Plus, there's also Richard Speck. See, lots of important figures in history! Y'all just haters.
 
Fangsofjeff said:
There's already a group that wants to drop the T from LGBT.
It's unlikely to spawn a literal war, but it does produce a lot of juicy drama. The T does NOT want to be dropped. :popcorn:
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Right now the T is acting like a parasite, creating fake myths, lying, hurting innocent people in the process while we can't protest because we are lower on the progressive stack. It doesn't matter that some troons think that they should be separated from the LGB, to them they are Uncle Toms, and even misguided gays and bis support them, is bananas.
Even if the Stonewall myth is true, then how some drug addicts trannies give a good image to the plight of same-sex attracted people?
Of course the LGB wants to get out of this Titanic, troons are a fundie wet dream because by their existence alone they prove that the slippery slope is real.
 
I find it funny how these trannies, gays, and women always want historical representation from figures who did very traditionally masculine things (like these violent riots, or a female warrior/general).

However, they never care about or acknowledge the most common way women (because lets be real trannies never really existed and being gay was not something to be proud of in history) participated in history in the more stereotypical feminine way. There have been countless times when wives used their powerful husbands to do very historically important things. And times women used their sexuality and attractiveness to bring powerful men under their control.

Also, what is history if not just a long list of insane and extraordinary actions done by men just to get pussy.
 
Get_your_kicks_with_30-06 said:
I find it funny how these trannies, gays, and women always want historical representation from figures who did very traditionally masculine things (like these violent riots, or a female warrior/general).

However, they never care about or acknowledge the most common way women (because lets be real trannies never really existed and being gay was not something to be proud of in history) participated in history in the more stereotypical feminine way. There have been countless times when wives used their powerful husbands to do very historically important things. And times women used their sexuality and attractiveness to bring powerful men under their control.

Also, what is history if not just a long list of insane and extraordinary actions done by men just to get pussy.
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Manipulation is frowned upon and most of the time there's no way to prove the wives were using their husband to achieve their goal. It's easier to politicize the life of people who had clear intentions and achieved them by socially acceptable means (by today's standards).
 
Pitere pit said:
Of course the LGB wants to get out of this Titanic, troons are a fundie wet dream because by their existence alone they prove that the slippery slope is real.
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I wouldn't blame it all on the T. The LGB part also lacks self-moderation. They're too scared to call out some of the more retarded parts of their community because they don't want to put anything that reflects bad on them in the spotlight and because of their mantra of acceptance.
 
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