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Actually, yes there is.

Transsexuals are the original 'gender dysphoria' group. There are very very few of them. 0.6% of the population have gender dysphoria.

Troons and transtrenders/transgenders are just different names for the same group with subgroups.
The initial group is made up of 50/50 HSTs, and AGPs.
HSTs = gay men who want to be women (Muslim gay men would somewhat fit in this category, although that's an entirely different kettle of fish).
AGPs = narcissistic straight men with a fetish.
You then have all the others that are tacked on underneath, all bullshit terms including, the nonbinary, the gender fluid, and all the coerced kids/teenagers being pushed by TRAs, who are libfem/libtards.

Troons, i.e. caricatures of women, majority have NPD, originally were coercing doctors and psychs to diagnose them with GD, to validate them. This then changed to not having to have GD at all, you just had to 'feel like a woman' to be a troon. They started eating their own, split into troon that were diagnosed with GD and ones that said they didn't need to be. That then split again into chaos.

The transsexuals meanwhile were hiding away, or were upfront in saying 'fuck off', all being called transphohic and being 'cancelled'.

Transsexuals don't want to be noticed, they don't want to call attention to themselves in any way. They don't want to make lesbians 'suck their girldick', GD people don't even want anything to do with their genitals, they certainly don't want to be 'popping boners in skirts' in bathrooms and taking photos of them! They don't want to do away with a whole class of human beings, they don't want to commit violent acts on that class to control them; they just want to get on with their lives as safely as they can.

There is a hell of a lot more to it...I'm too tired right now, to go into it more, or to care about men who are just going to maim and kill females, and ultimately themselves, all thanks to the porn industry, that has made dangerous fetishes mainstream.
If AGPs are straight than why do so many of them fuck other dudes?
 
If AGPs are straight than why do so many of them fuck other dudes?
They start out straight but when it becomes clear no girl in their right mind wants to fuck them, then they Troon out or go bi/gay and then they Troon out, their only mating pool being reduced to other AGPs or desperate/careless chasers

Hence why the Incel to Troon Pipeline exists

If you want a visual demonstration:
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Actually, yes there is.

Transsexuals are the original 'gender dysphoria' group. There are very very few of them. 0.6% of the population have gender dysphoria.

Transsexuals don't want to be noticed, they don't want to call attention to themselves in any way. They don't want to make lesbians 'suck their girldick', GD people don't even want anything to do with their genitals, they certainly don't want to be 'popping boners in skirts' in bathrooms and taking photos of them! They don't want to do away with a whole class of human beings, they don't want to commit violent acts on that class to control them; they just want to get on with their lives as safely as they can.

There is a hell of a lot more to it...I'm too tired right now, to go into it more, or to care about men who are just going to maim and kill females, and ultimately themselves, all thanks to the porn industry, that has made dangerous fetishes mainstream.

Guys we need to distinguish between people who just say they're Napoleon for attention or due to some other mental problem and those with genuine Napoleonic-dysphoria. If it's the latter their constant attempts to invade Russia in the wintertime aren't deranged, and we should respect and affirm them. NANALT! I know one who's perfectly well-adjusted and and and...

"Transsexuals" and "Transtrenders" have identical patterns of self-destructive behavior, so why should I accept one and reject the other? If anything we should work harder to prevent people with gender dysphoria from living the tranny lifestyle, since they have an actual mental illness compelling them to mutilate themselves, than 'trenders who are more likely to drop it for the next fad.

Truscum ideology is a big bunch of self-contradictory bullshit for that reason and many others. I don't think most of it is in good faith either, just damaged people trying to soothe their insecurities by a-logging and doing clumsy optics for the straights.
 
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"Transsexuals" and "Transtrenders" have identical patterns of self-destructive behavior, so why should I accept one and reject the other?

They don't, though. Trenders avoid anything that actually harms them much while reaping all the advantage that people with an actual mental illness have.
 
I’m sure if you are posting here at KF you are well aware of this phenomenon. Troons are likely the single most powerful tribe of users on the internet., without actually being the creators of platforms or really being involved in the business aspects of Social Media at all, they have somehow become untouchable.

This is most visible over at Reddit, where it really seems like most of the so-called “powermods” are troons. But their influence is noticeable elsewhere. Misgender one of them on Twitter and you’re done for. You will be banned permanently. Social media sites are far more strict about making fun of trannies than actual problematic content like death threats or calls to violence.

What is your opinion on how this all started and how it has gotten completely out of control?

Regarding a potential counterpoint that they have always been there and now they just have a voice, I don’t know if I buy that.
Sure there were occasional transvestites 10+ years ago, but not like this. Unfortunately there isn’t much data available on their numbers, but if you are paying attention it is obvious that more people are being converted every day. There is certainly some underlying cause for this, but nobody with the appropriate resources to research the subject would ever dare to go there.
 
They don't, though. Trenders avoid anything that actually harms them much while reaping all the advantage that people with an actual mental illness have.

Exactly! Truscum trannies shit on trenders for acting cringy and making them look bad, but at the end of the day who's worse: Some dumb 15 year old who went by "xe/xir" for a year on tumblr then grew out of it, or the 40 year old with Legit Tranny Papers (TM) who drilled a septic hole where his penis should be?
 
Its just the same old brown nosers who get into power online. They're usually mentally unstable which makes them good candidates to troon out. Can't prove this, but it seems like a lot of these mofos come from 2000s Something Awful.
 
Because people are afraid of being called a bigot of any kind.

Bigots in the past have committed horrible atrocities, stripped human beings of their rights, and dehumanized untold masses of people for being slightly different.

Who would want to be compared to something like that? Most normal people would want to avoid that at all costs. It doesn't matter if there isn't any proof or evidence that even suggests this. For some reason, when it comes to this sort of thing, you're considered guilty until proven innocent.

These people are technically classified as mentally ill, and you wouldn't be seen favorably by most people if you made fun of or said something nasty about someone for being mentally ill.

And they know this, they use their victim status and people's natural fear of being compared to murdering tyrants in order to gain control and power. To become tyrants themselves.
 
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Lots of spare time, unshakable belief in their cause, and the unwavering determination that those who don't share their ideology deserve to be silenced.
 
It was an unforeseen result of hiding that creepy diversity hires in human resources, where it was thought they wouldn't be able to do as much damage. Unfortunately, when mentally ill, insane degenerate malcontents end up in charge of low level hiring and internal disputes, you end up with nothing but other insane lunatics.
 
Lots of spare time, unshakable belief in their cause, and the unwavering determination that those who don't share their ideology deserve to be silenced.

this, plus they tend to be very loud, and loud people tend to attract the most attention. combine with the fact you have people afraid to be labeled a bigot, and it looks like they speak for the majority since no ones dares speak up. so they end up in "charge" so to speak, though it looks like that is slowly falling apart. Since the only thing they seem to love more than being loud is competing to see who can throw who under the bus fastest.
 
It was an unforeseen result of hiding that creepy diversity hires in human resources, where it was thought they wouldn't be able to do as much damage. Unfortunately, when mentally ill, insane degenerate malcontents end up in charge of low level hiring and internal disputes, you end up with nothing but other insane lunatics.
This sounds oddly similar to Stalin's rise to power through his position of General Secretary.
 
This is a product of the dehumanization of male individuals by modern liberalism and feminism and the media, modern Western society, the sorts, so these people believe they would be better off if they were female. The problem here is, biologically, they're still male, and they refuse to accept this. From what I know, the majority of them aren't even actually gender dysphoric, or dysphoric in general. They just fail to conform to society's expectations of them, so they think trying to change themselves into something they can't become will help them.

You know, despite all of the tough guy acts, troons are every what as threatened by swattings and the such as the rest of any infamous e-celeb on the big platforms and such. I wouldn't agree that all of them are mentally ill, as so much that they seek status, power, and diplomatic immunity and the such.

And honestly, the increased acceptance if you will, or at least glorification of being transgender and whatnot, has given them an opportunity in their eyes to help them get what they want in life, so they choose the route of trooning out, without actually being dysphoric. I get the feeling I'm repeating myself, but hopefully you get the idea.

tl;dr failedasses looking to become not failedasses in a way they can't actually become, but still get treated as a non-failedass by the powers that be so long as they castrate themselves and encourage castration to others in order to be seen as a non-failedass.
 
The answer is Google. They play an outsized role in the digital communications infrastructure and their employees are all defective.

They are the largest collection of autistic BDSM types on Earth. Apply all the rules to sex and eventually you get a community looking to upgrade their junk to accommodate every sort of fetish imaginable.

The rules they come up with about sexual organs translate into use of the Internet and now we're all living in their world. Break up the company for the good of the next generation, please.
 
It's a side effect of the digital age we live in of internet and video games.

Eventually more and more people start to feel like their digital "persona" is the "real" them and their flesh is just a happenstance accident that doesn't really matter, what matters is how they "feel" and how they can project that out into the digital space.
 
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