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cream pie said:
I think most of you will find that if you don't go online for a week, you'll have extremely minimal contact with the stuff you're raging out about, if any contact at all. Unless you're extremely unlucky or have a super fucked up job/social sphere, you'll never have to actually deal with these Narcissa-type or Chris Chan troons. Like maybe you'll see some 17 year old trannies on the subway or something, but they're just teenagers. Actual trannies are either unrecognizable because they fit in like responsible adults, or they're just rich people walking down the street in NYC or LA on a Saturday or Sunday. Shit is normal as fuck there.

When a Chris Chan is around, its clearly a "oh god there's a crazy person" type vibe that fills the entire area. They are indeed dangerous and volatile, but they aren't actually trannies, they're crazy deranged psychos about to bear mace someone. Narcissa types are wearing hoodies and earbuds and covid masks, hiding in a corner somewhere or trying to get out of the public view as fast as possible. Maybe cosplaying in their own little social world at a hotel on a rare good day.

Be honest, show of hands, how many of you posting actually know anyone personally (or even indirectly, ie. friend of a friend) who is trooning their kid out lol? I am actually curious, please share your stories if you have them. No online articles. You have to actually know them or know of them IRL.

The non-binary language police shit needs to stop though thats for sure. I don't mind white knighting for trannies but I will only do so for the ones who take it seriously and are actually transitioning, minding their own business and maintaining the very important two-genders-only (aka "The Binary" ) world policy that makes everything keep spinning.
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I don't personally know someone who had their kid sterilized over trendy tiktok politics ya got me. Guess I can't find it disgusting. You're very brave for taking a liberal-yet-transpositive stance against the "non-binary language police". Ever thought about working for Jesse Lee Peterson or Sargon of Akkad? I heard they're big into trannies and nuance.
 
Senseless. Like I said, there's tons of shit to worry about besides trannies. I don't give a shit about them and neither should you, but it is a smart move to "get with the program"-- ie, it's actually hip, it's going to continue to upset you unless you stop acting like a sensitive contrarian little angsty faggot.
 
cream pie said:
Actual trannies are either unrecognizable because they fit in like responsible adults, or they're just rich people walking down the street in NYC or LA on a Saturday or Sunday. Shit is normal as fuck there.
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Bruh, youre asking internet people if they know any trannies.

The same way crack decimated black populations in the 80s, trooning out decimated internet circles in the 2010s.

I know a few trannies irl, but this is a space to vent about political shit with regards to trannies, or the other thread with people you know or knew (online circles too, because these do have impact), and shit does suck seeing people you once had relationships with, chatted with, gamed with, or otherwise part of online communities who became insufferable and drank the koolaid
 



Edit: you wanted kids specifically. deleting irrelevancy. I know two people transing their kids in my state.
 
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TheBigZee said:
I know two people transing their kids in my state.
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Word. I am genuinely interested in that aspect because I do think it's dangerous and weird. Psycho orc ladies who identify as animal people or whatever brainwashing their kids into being trannies seems way too real, but I never actually hear about this, nor do I know anyone who does, etc.

What does that look like? Any details? Like how old are the kid(s)?
 
cream pie said:
I did not ask you if you knew trannies. I asked if you knew anyone even indirectly that was trooning their kid out. I also see this as a social concern, but I do not give a shit about full grown adults crossdressing or getting their shit chopped off.


You've clearly never been to Lower Manhattan, lol
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Yeah, I do know at least one case of that. An indirect link. Of course, I'm not going to provide you the evidence because that would be retarded; I'm not doxing myself for you. Even if I was willing to provide evidence that my niece has a friend who is being trooned (and who is no longer getting the high from the validation and whose undiagnosed mental illnesses are getting worse) it wouldn't change anything when we already have plenty of evidence that people are trooning their children and it's horrific each and every time.

Also, it's funny that you think that people declaring that their magical gender souls don't match the observable sex of their bodies is a valid belief, but only as long as those magical gender souls match the observable sex of someone else's body; a male can identify as female but absolutely not as anything in between!
 
cream pie said:
Word. I am genuinely interested in that aspect because I do think it's dangerous and weird. Psycho orc ladies who identify as animal people or whatever brainwashing their kids into being trannies seems way too real, but I never actually hear about this, nor do I know anyone who does, etc.

What does that look like? Any details? Like how old are the kid(s)?
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One of them the kid seems like he was going to grow up to be gay. Likes dance and dress up. They are about seven. They changed the kids name (dunno if legally), and they switched their school so IDK if their classmates know. They have a psychologist. That's the extent I know about it. There's definitely more than liking girl things going on. I think the kids parents want to do the right thing by their kid, so if the guidance changes before it's time to medicalize the kid that's what they'll do. No idea if the child has been accepted or rejected by the girls in their activities. It's more or less exactly what you'd imagine it to be. The child precursor to a Dylan.

The other is almost certainly MBP - I know the mom through a statewide support group for an issue notorious for munchausen's, and her other child lost a testicle because she had him in a wheel chair that he didn't need (he could walk). I reported her to the state, but I think the kids doctors intervened first (wheel chair went poof and the child's activities became more normal). Low and behold her younger daughter (four/five) started to like boy things and she wanted people on social media to use he/his pronouns. No idea if she has her in treatment anywhere.

No idea what kind of place gender clinics have in place against MBP. The big ones are associated with hospitals - Seattle childrens and Boston - that have pioneered the detection and reporting to authorities. I'd hope they'd require the parents to bring the kids to several play dates/sessions where they got the children away from the abuser, but who knows.
 
Surfin Terf said:
Yeah, I do know at least one case of that. An indirect link. Of course, I'm not going to provide you the evidence because that would be retarded; I'm not doxing myself for you. Even if I was willing to provide evidence that my niece has a friend who is being trooned (and who is no longer getting the high from the validation and whose undiagnosed mental illnesses are getting worse) it wouldn't change anything when we already have plenty of evidence that people are trooning their children and it's horrific each and every time.

Also, it's funny that you think that people declaring that their magical gender souls don't match the observable sex of their bodies is a valid belief, but only as long as those magical gender souls match the observable sex of someone else's body; a male can identify as female but absolutely not as anything in between!
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It's not about identity, it's about advantage. If you look like a girl and you can be hot, you should probably do it, especially if it's trendy or chic. Remove your personal feelings from the issue, it's dumb.
 
cream pie said:
It's not about identity, it's about advantage. If you look like a girl and you can be hot, you should probably do it, especially if it's trendy or chic. Remove your personal feelings from the issue, it's dumb.
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Dude have you even ever fuckin seen a troon?
 
The whole trans machine is just a porn fueled monstrosity where kids are taught by coomers and handmaidens that it's empowering and good to make your whole life about sex, and the doctors follow along for $$$

Commodification of the human form, just another instance in a long line of humans being shitty to one another because we're all dumb animals who would much rather pretend otherwise.

So the navel gazers will be sent down the surgeons assembly line, they will be sterilized, their friends' children will be sterilized, and in a few decades the normies will fill the gaps in the population and their children will read in textbooks about the eugenicist movement of the early 2000's.
 
cream pie said:
It's not about identity, it's about advantage. If you look like a girl and you can be hot, you should probably do it, especially if it's trendy or chic. Remove your personal feelings from the issue, it's dumb.
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I think maybe you're the one who needs to remove your personal feelings from the issue, because the language you're using and the way you're discussing the issue makes me wonder what biases you have here. Plus I don't like to read too much into other aspects, but your name is cream pie and your pfp is of what is clearly a very effeminate looking man, and your subtitle is #1 alpha male power top.

Like you clearly have something going pretty wrong sexually that's coloring your perceptions here, probably something to do with having a fetish for feminizing men, but you're telling other people to remove their feelings from the matter?

I don't agree with screeching about trannies constantly either, but I've heard people who aren't common internet users beginning to complain about it, so obviously for people who are online they have good reason to not like this shit.
 
LOL, jesus

I'm really not biased, but I have had perfectly fine interactions with trannies of many sorts and I don't feel some retarded pre-pubescent rage about them. The lolcow ones are horrible and angering sometimes, yeah. But yes, remove your feelings from the matter. What are you, a pussy? You sound more hormonal than a troon, there is no need to get upset. I think some of you are just really wrapped up about it and I'm merely speaking out of my experience with trans people and how I see them.

You can either get over it, learn to cope, or you can keep seething. I get that it's the thing here to hate-ramble about them and that's fine. I laugh along with it most of the time, funny stuff, venting, etc. You should be able to handle my 2 cents, its not too extreme or ridiculous IMO

Any transsexual who takes the shit seriously is fully aware that the objective is to trick people and/or be a weird class of citizen where they are a freak. It's not about identity as much as it is about succeeding. There are in fact hot trannies that pass. I am speaking on their behalf, I think that their ability to do this is interesting and even commendable on an objective level.
 
Uberpenguin said:
I think maybe you're the one who needs to remove your personal feelings from the issue, because the language you're using and the way you're discussing the issue makes me wonder what biases you have here. Plus I don't like to read too much into other aspects, but your name is cream pie and your pfp is of what is clearly a very effeminate looking man, and your subtitle is #1 alpha male power top.

Like you clearly have something going pretty wrong sexually that's coloring your perceptions here, probably something to do with having a fetish for feminizing men, but you're telling other people to remove their feelings from the matter?

I don't agree with screeching about trannies constantly either, but I've heard people who aren't common internet users beginning to complain about it, so obviously for people who are online they have good reason to not like this shit.
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I think you're right, I should remove my personal feelings from the issue. Joe Rogan has always been adamant about not including transgender people in mixed martial arts competitions because they have an unfair advantage. He's also said that he doesn't believe transgender men should be allowed to compete against cisgender women in any sport.
 
cream pie said:
Any transsexual who takes the shit seriously is fully aware that the objective is to trick people and/or be a weird class of citizen where they are a freak. It's not about identity as much as it is about succeeding. There are in fact hot trannies that pass. I am speaking on their behalf, I think that their ability to do this is interesting and even commendable on an objective level.
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No one would care about them if they weren't outnumbered 20-1 by troons. Blame the enbie/troon activists that demand we afford chris chan the same recognition.

Also, you shouldn't confuse the fact you're capable of getting aroused by the near side of the uncanny valley with passing.
 
I don't really blame anyone because I don't give a shit. Trannies existing is just human degeneracy. It does not surprise me. I choose to be impressed, be mildly disgusted, or (mostly) just not give a shit. Get back to me once you have a plan to exterminate them I guess lol. If you do anything that matters in either the tech field or the art world (I am involved in both, for a long time, both professionally and recreationally) you encounter lots of trannies. You get used to it. I have faith that someday you dudes who chimp tf out will just get used to it, an hero, or go on an incel shooting spree. You can choose any of the three options, be my guest, doesn't matter to me.

Also yeah, I'd fuck anything that I thought was hot. I am not claiming to be 100% heterosexual. The trannies I'd fuck are rare breeds, gotta hand it to them for tricking my stupid monkey skull.
 
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