US Gen Z Won’t Save Us - Big mistake to think they would!

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Article: https://slate.com/life/2024/11/election-results-2024-trump-gen-z-voters.html
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The youth will not save us. It will be weeks—months!—before the Democratic Party finishes the autopsy of this destroyed coalition, but one thing is already clear: Gen Z, particularly Gen Z men, is a whole lot more right-leaning than a lot of us thought. A Tufts University analysis of voter surveys found that 56 percent of men between the ages of 18 and 29 voted for Trump. Biden won that same demographic by 6 points last cycle. Other exit-poll analyses depict a more complicated picture, with young people voting for each candidate at relatively equal margins, but that is still a far cry from the overwhelming numbers put up by young people for Obama, Kerry, and Gore. It was a rude awakening for many Democrats. The assumptions that they long held about the denizens of America’s future—that they would reflexively vote left, no matter what—were simply not true in 2024. And for some millennials, that amounts to a betrayal.

“Gen z gotta be the worst generation of all time,” wrote one aggrieved Kamala backer on Twitter, in the aftermath of her defeat. “Can’t read, can’t write, can’t add, can’t fuck, can’t joke, can’t dance, can’t dress, can’t drink, can’t smoke, can’t not elect a fascist conman.”

Others took a slightly different tack, adopting the language of generational warfare—targeting, for the first time, the zoomers in their wake, rather than the boomers in the distance. “Crazy how Millennials were the only ones to learn how to use computers and we apparently are also the only ones who learned to see through disinformation,” added Dylan, an additional member of the social media commentariat, clearly horrified by the disfiguration of his caucus.

A third poster put it more succinctly: “Zoomers going right is one of the most depressing things about this election. … For now it’s hard to feel like we aren’t gonna be locked in hell for the rest of our lives.”

It went on and on like this in the hours after Trump’s second ascendancy. There is always a search for a scapegoat after a decisive political defeat, because in those moments, every decision a losing candidate made is naturally magnified as the reason for their downfall. And it is true that the media has long believed that the youngest voters in the country would naturally be just as progressive as their predecessors. Gen Z will “change the world,” said Time in 2018, while a Newsweek contributor claimed that the up-and-coming generation was “uniquely dangerous to Republicans.”

That optimism was obviously misplaced. The conservative movement, at least within its terminally online meme-wars wing, has largely become the party of men who feel as though they’ve been marginalized by a society turned against them. And that includes young men. (A tweet last week by Stephen Miller, one of the wormiest members of the first Trump regime, calling Zyn-puckered boys to the polls en masse was a particularly unseemly omen of what was to come.) But frankly, from my vantage point, this realignment hasn’t taught me anything I didn’t already know about young people—and it especially hasn’t caused me to believe that Gen Z is uniquely corroded or propagandized or even all that materially different from the fresh-faced millennials we once were. The election of Trump reminds me that members of the youth, regardless of generation, are idealistic, impulsive, and uniquely susceptible to messaging that heralds them as a force that can change the world. That was certainly true when I watched Obama blow out McCain under the aegis of the artist Stephen Fairey. And I imagine that that was also true of the boys mainlining a noxious YouTube diet of Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro, who have drilled into them the idea that a vote for Trump is a vote for an assertion of their dignity—that they may remake America in their image, that the world will once again lie at their feet. It is a grim, faulty promise, but a promise nonetheless.

What exactly did the Harris campaign promise those same young men? Progressive youth voters have made clear their aversion to the brutal destruction in Gaza, while the incumbent rebuffed them, over and over again, with the status quo. The same could be said of many of the most popular causes of the 2020 primary: a minimum-wage increase and a more sensible health care apparatus, both of which were championed by Bernie Sanders, who—sorry, it must be said—received strong backing among the exact same constituencies from which Harris hemorrhaged votes. Gen Z women were clearly moved by Harris’ staunch support for abortion rights—they voted for her at a 58 percent clip, according to Tufts—but she waited until the final weeks of the campaign to go to bat for legalized recreational marijuana. Same with the Democratic PACs that attempted to exploit the frighteningly puritanical antiporn, antipleasure, and antisex fringes of the Trump coalition that have grown only more curdled and repellent in their four years out of power. It’s called a culture war for a reason. And at every turn, Harris didn’t seem eager to fight it.

There’s precedent for all of this. Reagan won the youth vote. So did Nixon. Trump’s claiming the mantle is hardly surprising. Those Republicans of yore succeeded in their party’s expansion by presenting a concrete set of policies to sway the insurgent generation to their side. (Nixon, for example, ran on ending military conscription before the 1972 election; a broad swath of college kids responded by deserting the Democratic nominee, George McGovern.) The calculus of the Trump camp is much darker—and more convoluted. It evokes a vision of America in which the perceived subjugation of young men is the fault of a radical gender agenda and unchecked immigration, the latter of which can be contained only by mass deportation and, I guess, the crypto industry. But that is far from a sturdy monolith. It can, and should, be easily conquered. All it takes is a platform that authentically offers something—anything—to youth voters. As they’ve proved, time and time again, they’ll listen.
 
They had all these studies about Gen-Zers being the gayest gen ever, but reality proved otherwise. Another L for nu-science.
I’m so bored of all the articles and Redditors that generalize entire generations. It’s so lazy and obnoxious.

It’s not going to end either, when millennials are all old and we are the new boomers we will likely get shit on even more than peak Avocado Toast.
 
You locked up a bunch of high school kids for two years and then forced them to mask up when they came back, and if they refused to do so, they would be denied an education. (Essentially kept away from their friends) Small wonder they hate you.
 
“Gen z gotta be the worst generation of all time. Can’t read, can’t write, can’t add, can’t fuck, can’t joke, can’t dance, can’t dress, can’t drink, can’t smoke, can’t not elect a fascist conman.”
But do they charge they phone, be bisexual, eat hot chips and lie?
 
“Gen z gotta be the worst generation of all time,” wrote one aggrieved Kamala backer on Twitter, in the aftermath of her defeat. “Can’t read, can’t write, can’t add, can’t fuck, can’t joke, can’t dance, can’t dress, can’t drink, can’t smoke, can’t not elect a fascist conman.”
And I wonder which generation made sure they “can’t joke”. You failed the younger generation and now you are shitting on them.
 
“Gen z gotta be the worst generation of all time,” wrote one aggrieved Kamala backer on Twitter, in the aftermath of her defeat. “Can’t read, can’t write, can’t add, can’t fuck, can’t joke, can’t dance, can’t dress, can’t drink, can’t smoke, can’t not elect a fascist conman.”
they'll never learn. the ones reading and adding things up and fucking are the trump voters.

the kamala voters get their information from tiktok, don't know basic economics, and the closest they get to "fucking" is their turn to lap up the polycule's bull's cum on friday, assuming they can get any sexual pleasure in the first place after they chopped their dick and balls off trying to become a woman.

also since when is smoking a liberal virtue lmao
 
I’m so bored of all the articles and Redditors that generalize entire generations. It’s so lazy and obnoxious.

It’s not going to end either, when millennials are all old and we are the new boomers we will likely get shit on even more than peak Avocado Toast.
Generalizing them makes sense to an extent, they experienced a similar environment and important events at about the same period of life. Millennials, for example, got to see the best and worst of times, the 90s and early Internet before the banks and boomers shit down their throats. Then, as a cohort, they failed the test of history and largely became tools for DEI and "muh capitalism bad", largely known for being unfun wokescolds.

Zoomers appear to mostly have broken for Trump along gender lines, like most demographics, so the main takeaway is that whatever appeal progressive policies (or the appearance thereof) have on them is minimal at best. Could be that most of it is racism, transphobia, and men are bad.
 
The assumptions that they long held about the denizens of America’s future—that they would reflexively vote left, no matter what—were simply not true in 2024. And for some millennials, that amounts to a betrayal.
Tell me you're narcissistic control freaks, without telling me you're narcissistic control freaks. It is insane to think that the most disenfranchised generation would hold anything but contempt for the group that has been brow beating beating them for the last two decades.
 
“Gen z gotta be the worst generation of all time,” wrote one aggrieved Kamala backer on Twitter, in the aftermath of her defeat. “Can’t read, can’t write, can’t add, can’t fuck, can’t joke, can’t dance, can’t dress, can’t drink, can’t smoke, can’t not elect a fascist conman.”
The generational warfare meme is especially dumb in this context because if we find that account
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and then run a quick search for birthday
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He's 31 years old and mostly livetweets various reality tv shows while complaining about being single. He's not meaningfully different from someone who's 27 (the oldest Gen Z) and likely doesn't have anywhere nearly as much in common with someone who's in their early 40s (oldest Millenials). Because "generational discourse" is useful for identifying overarching trends, but not relevant when someone on the cusp of a generational cohort wants to declare themselves better than the people they were a couple years ahead of in school.
 
I’m so bored of all the articles and Redditors that generalize entire generations. It’s so lazy and obnoxious.

It’s not going to end either, when millennials are all old and we are the new boomers we will likely get shit on even more than peak Avocado Toast.
I said this a while back:
For those shitting on baby boomers, just remember you will be their age one day, and the younger generations will despise you as much as you did to the boomers.
Generational stereotyping is as stupid as racial or any other kind of stereotyping.
 
“Can’t read, can’t write, can’t add, can’t fuck, can’t joke, can’t dance, can’t dress, can’t drink, can’t smoke, can’t not elect a fascist conman.”
And who's fault is that retard? Can't read, can't write, can't add? Do you think these are skills that are just magically imprinted upon you at birth? I'm an older Gen Z male that went to a school in a small town that would be almost completely irrelevant if we didn't have a major highway pass through us. A mill town that's suffered drastically since the closing of the mills from before my time (thanks boomers). The only thing keeping me here in this place is the fact the cost of living is some of the cheapest in the state, if not the whole fucking country.

The school system is shit. We have classrooms with really bright kids that are going somewhere mixed in with 80 IQ drooling retards that constantly disrupt class, and who's life aspirations are "I'm finna be a famous rapper shieeeeeeeeeeeet" Growing up in the early 2000s and graduating in the late 2010s sucked ass. I don't want to even imagine what the fuck it's like now with more troons walking around, somehow even worse curriclum, and teachers that range from either overworked old white woman that's making a shit salary, to pedophile math teacher too busy staring at a 16 year old girls bare feet instead of teaching the class.

Yes that was in my HS. We had 4 seperate cases of pedo teachers in my small town school in only 4 fucking years! Those were the ones that were caught. There was another one that waited till a girl was 18 to make their relationship public, and another that was heavily suspected to be fucking a student, but no conclusive evidence.

I could honestly go on forever about my school expierence, and how it was a trash enviroment for learning. Math? Good luck teaching little Timmy math when he has ADHD like symptoms, or actual ADHD because you sat him infront of a screen since the age of 5 because you didn't do shit with your life as a single mom. Don't even get me started on the family aspect of things. It's like night and day looking at my peers that had good parents, to those that had two parents but they were in a shitty relationship, to the single moms.

Science? Mutliple genders isn't science. Reading and writing? Don't make me laugh. Geography and History? 90% of what I know about history was self taught. Some of the motherfuckers I grew up with couldn't even point at a map to find fucking France or big ass fucking RUSSIA at 15. If you can't even point out a major nation I bet all the money I have you don't know shit about history.

Yes a lot of it was my fault. I could've, and should've done better in school, but if Timmy is bad at school maybe he's stupid. If you have entire classes and whole school districts failing across the country maybe just maybe there's something seriously fucking wrong. Maybe I'm just insane and retarded? Yeah that must be it.


Is there anything Millennials, Gen X, and Boomers have taught Gen Z as a whole besides what NOT to fucking do? "Go to college or else you'll be broke" yeah we see how that turned out. "Be careful of who you marry and here's some relationship advice" says the Boomer aunt on her 3rd divorce.

The final straw that broke my back about the left was how when I was a young kid I distinctly remember people going "race doesn't matter, its all just skin color!" and lo and behold all of a sudden it's "race is everything. Some races can't be racist. Race race race race race race" If that broke my back troon shit ripped out my spine.

TL;DR: Fuck you. Here's to hoping Gen Z votes red till the end of time.
 
If it makes you feel any better I started bullying kids who were trans in my class at age 15 and they all laughed at me, pushed me away and called me stupid. Now they infect everything they touch. I tried to warn them.
 
Are you forgetting Gen X? I'm a millennial and my parents aren't boomers...
Im Gen X and we are a pretty mixed bag, but we were the generation that was used as a guinea pig for the whole "I'm OK, you're OK," nobody fails, everyone gets a participation trophy crap that seems to have ground millennial under its collective foot.
 
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