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That's one of the rare articles on the 3 Sisters that spells out that the corn has to be a dent/flint/flour corn for grinding

it doesn't though if you're setting up a three sisters bed in your backyard - you need tall corn if you're doing it traditionally, which means you're leaving it for weeks on end. but if you're at it all the time you can just wrap the beans around the corn a couple extra times.

to be clear for people reading who don't have experience doing this: the point of a three sisters bed is that the corn provides the trellis for the beans and the leaves of the squash shade the ground allowing the bed to subsist on rainfall and not require handwatering. maybe injuns had magic knowledge of the nitrogen fixing the beans do, this is always discussed as a factor but I don't see how they could have known.

traditionally these beds were planted and ignored sometimes until harvest. however astute readers will have noticed this requires summertime rain. If you live in a mediterranean climate growing a three sisters bed is just a fun thing to do, you miss out the major benefit of it because you still have to water.

and that the beans must die to release the N they've stored in the root nodules.

another note to readers: if you're doing any kind of soilbuilding leaving plants to die and leaving their root structure alone is usually a good idea!
 
I’m just here to wish everyone a great growing season and, when the time comes, may your harvest be plentiful. My strawberries have fully grown and any day now should be turning red. I should be picking within the next two-three weeks. Then it will be picking almost everyday until October if it was anything like last year. And my blueberry plants are doing fantastic as well. Godsneed everyone.
 
A quick trip to the local nursery to get some rooting hormone and soil while I wait for my native plant order to come in turned into a purchase of even more native pollinator/butterfly host plants.
  • Tropical sage
  • Swamp milkweed
  • Corky stem passion vine (hideous, but apparently it's crack to butterflies)
  • Dutchman's pipevine (see note for the corky stem, blooms look like slices of old salami)
  • A free popcorn cassia plantlet
The milkweed and the corky are very small. The corky came with two teeny caterpillars on it, I think gulf fritillary. The milkweed and corky are so small that I might need to actually remove any future caterpillars until they can grow more. The popcorn is so tiny that I won't be able to allow anything to eat it for a while.
Found a Monarch caterpillar on my tiny milkweed. I couldn't bring myself to kill it as Monarchs oscillate between being classified as endangered or vulnerable. So I bought two slightly bigger milkweeds and moved the little guy to the biggest plant. Bummed two massive corkystem cuttings from my grandma and moved the fritillary caterpillars to that.

Gulf Fritillary
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Monarch vs some similar caterpillars
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saw my first hummingbird of the year, he came to snack on the salvia I planted for him and his bros
 
Man idk if this is exactly the right place, but what the fuck is up with boomers and lawns?

Rate me autistic or mad at the uhh garden? But man I don't know, is my dad just the normal level of societal autistic that boomers have or is he special? Both my parents came up to stay for a few days over the bank holiday. Nothing new. I have a fairly large garden and no real use for it, so I ripped half it out planted wildflower seed and all that shit. I won't say it looks good because it needs a few years to properly grow in, but it's better than just flat green empty shit that it used to be. I've also just completely stopped mowing the lawn at all. It's grass, shit grows, that's what plants do. Don't like that, don't plant it then. If you plant a plant and get pissed off to the point of chopping it in half constantly because it dared to grow, maybe you should just get an astroturf instead. It's always really nice, it only ever gets shin high aside from the seed stems and a few patches that just about get up to your knees sometimes. It's always full of things from insects to mice and all the things that should be in the grass. I have a well not really puppy anymore who loves playing hide and seek in it, we don't have any dangerous things where I live don't worry. I always like to just go out and just walk through it, there's patches of probably verging on 20 different types of grass, all unique in their own way, different colours heights leaf shapes all that shit. It's just got that nice textural variation going on. It's just nice to walk through them and let them tickle your shins and shit. I've seen enough shit on here that just touching turf grass isn't enough I need that proper foot tall shit. Touching grass isn't enough, I need to be engulfed by it, vored by it if you will. The best part is looking out the front of the house to see what the council does on the verge and it's always dead brown straw, then looking out the back to see thick lush greenery.

Every time my dad comes up he always says something about how bad it looks. I always say I do not give a shit and it's my property and my choice. He's said a couple times that the neighbours probably think less of me for that, which who gives a shit? When they pay my council tax or the inheritance tax on the house they can have an opinion but until then they can fuck off, it's their fence anyway, if they hated it so much they are well within their rights to just get a taller fence. A couple years ago he came up to see me for my birthday and randomly decided that he would fucking take it into his own hands and just mow the entire lawn for no fucking reason. I told him to fuck off and all that shit, he thought I just hadn't had time. I work as a contractor, I routinely have days where we either finish early or don't have anything lined up. The rest of the garden is also properly weeded, shit pulled from between slabs and anything potentially painful removed too. The only 'weed' left is some bracken growing down the side of the fence that I think looks nice, as well as two big patches of brambles, one for food and the other I was going to remove until I noticed a sparrow nesting in there. It's very clearly not just left to go wild but intentionally not mowed. He also took it upon himself to prune a tree, I'm sure I don't need to tell you guys that you always cut from the bottom up, or you risk stripping the bark and potentially killing the tree. I'm sure I also don't need to tell you that pruning old growth is pointless and retarded. Or that pruning a tree in the middle of summer is very literally the worst time to do it. I'm sure you can guess what he took it upon himself to do while he was at it. I told him do not fucking do this you retard it is my house I do not care what you think I have the final say, obviously in nicer but just as firm wording. But ultimately chalked it up to just innocent boomer autism thinking he's helping type old person stuff.

Yea so anyway. I go out with my mother to see her mother and go get something to eat together, take a guess what I come back to. Not just fucking killed all the grass, but didn't even do the courtesy of raking it up, instead raked it into the fucking house. I won't say 'pissed' more just disappointed, as if I'm the father and just found my son digging a hole in the garden to look for treasure or some shit, just the inverse. I just don't get it. Why would you take it upon yourself to do something I have previously made explicitly clear I do not want doing ever, especially when it is not your fucking house. I feel like I'm going crazy. This just isn't normal behaviour.

I do not know what possesses someone to be so idk selfcentred? Inconsiderate? I don't know the word. It's almost the sally-anne test type cognitive dysfunction. Even as a kid he'd do the same thing, he'd bring different types of food because he thought I was getting bored of the stuff I always ate, despite me explicitly saying I do not get bored of it. Not just 'hey I saw this and thought you might like it' but filling the fridge and freezer with new things to try to the point of wasting food and eating for the sake of it. He would have a thought in his brain and then assume I think the same way and decide for me based on what he thought I would think, instead of just like you know asking me. Boomers are already autistic enough with their lawns, I think they look like shit. A lawn is the garden equivalent of an empty white room, that's your starting point, you're not meant to leave it at that. You are being given a blank canvas not a finished painting. I don't know if it's just because it was his mother's house (why he knows where the mower is and the keys for the shed) and he just subconsciously wants to keep it to the same aesthetics as his mother wanted. I don't know if he's just too inconsiderate to even think that other people have different opinions or thoughts. Or is this just a normal part of the societal autism groomed into everyone and this is just normal for older people. I don't know. I would ask him but he's the type of person that turns any non 100% positive discussion into a heated argument in about 2 sentences and it's just not worth the effort. It's just fucking annoying. I'd just found hedgehog shit a couple days ago too, that poor things probably scared off nowhere to live anymore, if it isn't mincemeat on the grass. Loads of birds nest in the garden too, probably because the grass has insects for them to eat. Sorry. Had insects for them to eat. He's one of these people that will go out and do something like this, then complain about being exhausted or doing so much work, as if that isn't entirely self inflicted. It's like the grandad compulsion to make birdboxes out of an old wardrobe and a couple pallets using nails you stole out a skip. It's not doing things because he wants or needs to, but because he just feels the need to do something. He makes up things, decides that they 'need' doing, then uses that as a 'reason' to keep himself busy rather than just going and getting an actual hobby. I won't lie and say there's absolutely nothing that needs doing in the garden, if you really want to help then I'm sure you could have found some actual weeds to pull out down by the sides of the fences or some shit, you know things that I wouldn't mind being killed at least. There's doors that could do with a spray of wd40, a couple that could do with the my grandma's shitty attempts at painting stripping off so the doors fit the frame again and then repainting, all three of those things are in the same shed as the mower is I think, definitely wd40 and paint in there at the minimum. There's cleaning that could do with doing. A dog that probably wouldn't mind being walked either. It's just such a fucking retarded thing to do. I have a mostly tile floor, so I've always been in the camp of not caring if you wear shoes inside within reason. I have never gone to someone else's house, them asked me to remove my boots, and then decided that the best solution is not only ignore them and to track my dirty workboots all over their carpet, but to also take their shoes and dunk them in mud and start rubbing those on the carpet too. I can understand not liking how my garden looks, I don't particularly care, the only thing I care about is that you don't go out and fucking ruin it after being explicitly told to not do that before.

I'm not exactly a religious man, agnostic not atheist though. But who am I to decide what can and cannot live in my garden? We are all God's creation, human or mouse or those fucking cunted crane flies. What gives me the right to be the arbiter of their lives too? They are just as entitled to live in my land as I am. Everything is welcome on my property as long as it isn't invasive or harmful. Land ownership is already pretty fucking retarded but necessary for modern life. But I have no need for a garden. My dog is fine and actually loves the longer grass and I have no other reason to keep the grass short. So I just have a garden with no use. So who am I to decide that, just because I have no use for it, the other things living in there should also be forced into being unable to use it? If I have no use for the garden then it is just retardedly selfish to not let something else use it. These animals do not live in my garden, my garden lives in their house. There's been animals living in this spot from before houses were even a thing, let alone fucking ugly as sin turf grass lawns. I've already spotted an endangered species in the garden. I see birds of prey pretty often too. Grass is natural, if you allow nature to take care of it then it will. The grass will only ever grow to a certain height. The insects it attracts will be eaten by birds that are cute and sing nice songs while you sit outside and relax for a bit. The shelter will attract smaller mammals, from hedgehogs that are adorable in and of themselves, to mice which are also cute but will attract those adorable snakes and owls to eat them. And watching that happen will always bring me more joy than the most basic bitch flat green eyesore.

I guess I've got to go finish his 'work' for him before my fucking white dog rolls around and starts a Shrek cosplay with all the grass stains. And I guess I've got to start hiding keys again just like when my grandma had dementia. At least grass will grow back fairly quickly, unlike fucking up pruning a tree and making it spend the rest of the year growing shitty little spindly branches that took almost an entire day of actual pruning to fix.
 
Man idk if this is exactly the right place, but what the fuck is up with boomers and lawns?
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Rate me autistic or mad at the uhh garden? But man I don't know, is my dad just the normal level of societal autistic that boomers have or is he special? Both my parents came up to stay for a few days over the bank holiday. Nothing new. I have a fairly large garden and no real use for it, so I ripped half it out planted wildflower seed and all that shit. I won't say it looks good because it needs a few years to properly grow in, but it's better than just flat green empty shit that it used to be. I've also just completely stopped mowing the lawn at all. It's grass, shit grows, that's what plants do. Don't like that, don't plant it then. If you plant a plant and get pissed off to the point of chopping it in half constantly because it dared to grow, maybe you should just get an astroturf instead. It's always really nice, it only ever gets shin high aside from the seed stems and a few patches that just about get up to your knees sometimes. It's always full of things from insects to mice and all the things that should be in the grass. I have a well not really puppy anymore who loves playing hide and seek in it, we don't have any dangerous things where I live don't worry. I always like to just go out and just walk through it, there's patches of probably verging on 20 different types of grass, all unique in their own way, different colours heights leaf shapes all that shit. It's just got that nice textural variation going on. It's just nice to walk through them and let them tickle your shins and shit. I've seen enough shit on here that just touching turf grass isn't enough I need that proper foot tall shit. Touching grass isn't enough, I need to be engulfed by it, vored by it if you will. The best part is looking out the front of the house to see what the council does on the verge and it's always dead brown straw, then looking out the back to see thick lush greenery.

Every time my dad comes up he always says something about how bad it looks.
You have to remember, Boomers were raised by the television. It's one thing to say that, it's another to know it and fully internalize the implications. Boomers' parents were the WWII guys, they lived through the depression and war and wanted the best for their children, so they created this fantasy-ish world in which the Boomers grew up, but as parents go the "greatest" kind of raised their children like robots. There are some really interesting videos and even books you can find on this, and it also explains part of why - believe it or not - that same generation got into Dianetics, of all things.
So where then, did the baby-boomers turn to for their emotional connection? The television. It was their babysitter, friend, and educator, and what they saw on the TV set their expectations for what life should be.
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Boomers like lawns because it's what they see on TV. It's not just that the people on TV had lawns, it's that lawns themselves are clean, sterile, and empty. That hollow-nature is like a TV show it itself. It's curated and the lawn is a way for the Boomer to show their own skills at curation. It's also kind of a sad attempt to do what their own parents expected of them, even subconsciously.
"See dad, I'm not too emotional! Look how clean my lawn is!"

Yea so anyway. I go out with my mother to see her mother and go get something to eat together, take a guess what I come back to. Not just fucking killed all the grass, but didn't even do the courtesy of raking it up, instead raked it into the fucking house. I won't say 'pissed' more just disappointed, as if I'm the father and just found my son digging a hole in the garden to look for treasure or some shit, just the inverse. I just don't get it. Why would you take it upon yourself to do something I have previously made explicitly clear I do not want doing ever, especially when it is not your fucking house. I feel like I'm going crazy. This just isn't normal behaviour.
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I do not know what possesses someone to be so idk selfcentred? Inconsiderate?
Because it's not self-centered or inconsiderate to them. That's their "normal". The boomers you meet who are not like that are the abnormal ones for their age group. If you don't believe me, go back and watch both the media they consumed in their childhoods-though-adult-years, and then look also at interviews and documentaries about them. It's how they are, and I'd wager your dad didn't just not think he was doing something wrong, he probably feels justified.
Your lawn is not "your lawn". It's "his child's lawn" and "his child" is something he possesses. In Boomer-logic, he (in a way) owns your lawn, so it is his right and obligation to make it fit what he expects it to be, and to protect himself by "protecting" you from the perceived judgement of others.
To GenX and down, it may seem like I'm shitting on Boomers, or being mean, but I'm really not. I'm looking at them with open eyes and when you do that enough times and with enough Boomers you can see them for what they are and - ironically - you become less judgmental of it, and instead just kind of sad.
 

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Man idk if this is exactly the right place, but what the fuck is up with boomers and lawns?

you are having a massively inappropriate reaction here, inappropriate in that you're not allowing yourself to get angry. your dad did something really egregious and awful. you are intellectualizing and excusing and juggling knives here to avoid accepting the nasty reality. I totally get it, and I'm really sorry, and I hope the hedgehogs come back.
 
Man idk if this is exactly the right place, but what the fuck is up with boomers and lawns
Watching boomers interact with nature is simultaneously the finniest thing you’ll ever see and a cognitive hazard to the observer.
They’re too lazy to pull weeds out of their side of the pond but the WILL nuke their entire yard with Snake-Away and then complain about mice when all the snakes are dead.
Then when they DO decide to start cleaning ponds they just rip up everything including irises, etc. because anything that grows larger than it was in the pot at Home Depot is a weed, actually, and must be destroyed.

Honestly im convinced the only thing stopping the local boomers from dumping Roundup in the pond is that they don't remember it exists. They dont really care about the legality or its effect on the environment because they grew up with shit like DDT.

Their cruelty and nonsense towards outdoor animals is only topped by their cruelty towards the animals in their home lol
 
Clover will never be a weed. Shamrock might be just as unwanted and discriminated against by the people around as the old woman was when she came over here but they both have a right to live and contribute. The only way I'm getting rid of that is plucking through it looking for those four leafed ones. From experience though it's not the clover choking out the weeds, the grass chokes out the clover most of the time. Other than several types of wild flowers the only 'weeds' I get are those thistly looking things, normally just cut it off at the base with a penknife or key and they get choked out by the grass after that.

Boomers like lawns because it's what they see on TV. It's not just that the people on TV had lawns, it's that lawns themselves are clean, sterile, and empty.
It's also kinda American. Originally it was a statement of the feudal lords and shit, hey look at me my farmers are so prosperous I can have this big patch of fertile soil by my mansion and not need to use it for food, I have so many workers I can pay them to hand cut these acres of land every day instead of just getting sheep to do it and producing food at the same time, I don't need defences around my house, I'll just have this wide open land because no one would ever want to attack me anyway. It was originally a sign of wealth. Americans still had that notion but because there was so few land restrictions everyone could have a nice big lawn, thus removing it as a status symbol and removing the entire reason to have one, but as a result became a socially expected thing. It's so detached from the meaning that it has just become this societal autism thing, you don't really understand or question why you do it, you don't interact with your thoughts or feelings on any meaningful level, you just do it because you do. You must kill the dandelions and daisies and buttercups, not for any actual reason but just because you have the thought in your brain to do so and are either unwilling or able to interact with it. The only thing I would call a weed is goosegrass, as well as some forms of tree choking vines that keep popping up. I have a patch of nettles that I still make soup with just like my grandma did. I've got kilos of blackberries in the freezer from the brambles too. The rabbits or whatever can come and eat the dandelions or the bees can take their pollen. Hell if it self seeded I wouldn't even remove a fucking gorse shrub if it was in a decent position.

It's how they are, and I'd wager your dad didn't just not think he was doing something wrong, he probably feels justified.
Because I've already kinda gotten off topic. One of the main things I absolutely disagree with when it comes to Christianity is forgiveness. It's one of the main reasons I stopped going to church as soon as I could. There were two people in my school that were absolute cunts. They both went to the same college as me and were in the same friend group. I was open to looking past the past, called that for a reason and all. One of them went from an uptight cunt who larped as an upper class twat despite firmly not being, to being a genuinely nice guy. Don't really talk to him any more because other than the college work we had nothing in common. The other ended up staying as an absolute cunt who would routinely grind on his girlfriend that he was overly possessive of infront of children down to 10 years old. He would routinely fake suicide attempts and claim that because his mother died years ago that excused him from being a bad person. I can't say much more because I genuinely think it would be borderline self doxxing, but one of my childhood friends did something so insanely talented that it was probably on the same level as getting into the olympics. This guy heard about that and started going on about how he was applying for the same thing, despite being the equivalent of a sunday league player. They both did not deserve forgiveness, they were both still cunts, but they deserved a second chance and retribution. One of them took it, the other does not deserve to ever be given a second chance again. I dated a guy around the same time, he turned out to be more than just a massive cunt. He does not deserve forgiveness or any second chance. Those things are entirely relative. I'm just not entirely sure where I stand on this specifically. It doesn't matter either way because doing it twice especially after being directly told not to is at least one time too many. I'm just not sure if the first is forgivable if it stayed there. It comes back to the whole shoes on/off analogy, it is just so outside the realm of normal behaviour that it makes me question if it is just normal societal autism or something personal. It's not like the garden never came up before the first time either, I had already mentioned I like the long grass and stuff. I didn't make it clear that it was intentional, but that doesn't matter because it is not your fucking house. At the same time it really does feel like I'm looking after a child again, having to hide keys so the mentally impaired can't go out and do something they shouldn't. Was just hoping for maybe a couple decades before having another dementia patient to look after.

he (in a way) owns your lawn, so it is his right and obligation to make it fit what he expects it to be
My grandma used to be the polar opposite. She spent my entire childhood telling me that when she's dead and buried that she will be too busy being dead to give a shit what I do with the house. She explicitly told me when she was still lucid enough to know that she was dying, that once she was dead she would be coming back to haunt me if I didn't take time off work to do what I wanted to with the garden. She explicitly said do not fucking keep it how it is for me because I will be dead. Throughout my entire childhood she'd tell me that if I wanted a pet horse in the garden or an entire zoo then it was my land to do just that with. I won't say what type specifically for once again privacy reasons, but I did consider getting a pet pheasant for a while, some of the exotic ones are some of the most beautiful birds I have ever seen.

Not once did she tell me 'do whatever the fuck you want; as long as your father approves'.

"protecting" you from the perceived judgement of others.
I routinely walk around around the garden shirtless and have locked eyes with one of my neighbours while taking a piss more than once. They've done something somewhat similar to me anyway. I even lent them a hand digging and preparing part of their garden for renaturalisation, admittedly more of a planned selection of native flowers than the scattershot approach of tearing out half the lawn and throwing a load of seeds on it and seeing what happens. Even if they did judge me than I still wouldn't care, they're free to think whatever they want about me, same in reverse. What they think of me has no impact on my life at all, I'm not lying awake at night crying that two out of 8 billion people have a less than perfect opinion of me.

you're not allowing yourself to get angry
It takes a lot to make me angry. Annoyed? Yea. Maybe if I was writing this when I got home yesterday it'd be a different story, even then it's hard to stay annoyed when your pet polar bear comes and flops his head onto your lap and demands attention. No point in working yourself up just for an internet post. Obviously I'm annoyed or I wouldn't have written anything, but there's no point in trying to write anything if you're too angry to think straight. I learnt very early on when dealing with my grandma, she's going to do things that piss you off. You will get fucking annoyed at her often and intensely. And that the best thing to do is to take instant action to prevent whatever happening again and leave it at that and just walk away until you're no longer angry and maybe talk about it with people that understand you as a distraction type shit. Maybe go and sit in the garden and watch the birds for a while, ohh, wait, yea. Arguing with someone who is unable to change will result in you losing 100% of the time, you will never win, you will just feel much worse at the end of the day. I've never been one for conflict anyway. Especially if it'd ruin the vibe for my mother too. The answer isn't anger or arguing or whatever, the answer is simply that next time you come up here and left alone you go back to the hotel or whatever instead of staying in my house alone and when you do come up you come to my house less, if at all. Anger wouldn't resolve a problem, it'd extend it, you're not fixing the problem you're just extending it. There's enough yarrow in the garden to treat all the headaches anyway.

The hedges are still thick and the pond is still wet though, even without grass to hide in I'm sure they'll still have enough hedge to hog around in and I don't think anyone else near me has a big wildlife pond so it's probably one of seldom few places they can get a drink. If anything it'll be easier to see any tracks of them now that you don't have to route through a foot of grass.

Anyway thank you for coming to 'femboy fart huffer daddy issue' talk.
 
Goddammit some vile bugs are eating the leaves off my peppers. I have to KILL THEM! Fucking evil bugs.
 
From experience though it's not the clover choking out the weeds, the grass chokes out the clover most of the time.
This is my experience too; I hate grass and exclusively overseed with clover, occasionally lawn daisies and violets (failed). Still got grass and weeds.

If you didn't have a yard and trees to mess up, your dad would have given your kids buzz cuts or done something atrocious but ostensibly "helpful" to your car. There's just this drive in some people.
 
Has any one here ever tried growing monkey orchids from seed? I read about using agar medium and how it needs to be sterile. Can't find much else about it. Any suggestions?
 
This is my experience too; I hate grass and exclusively overseed with clover, occasionally lawn daisies and violets (failed). Still got grass and weeds.
Honestly I doubt you could plant anything on turf grass without first damaging it. It's going to be so ingrained anything will just be smothered instantly.
kids buzz cuts
No kids but he's welcome to try shave a pyr, I think I'd rather cut the lawn with a pair of blunt scissors before that though.
Has any one here ever tried growing monkey orchids from seed? I read about using agar medium and how it needs to be sterile. Can't find much else about it. Any suggestions?
I've grown orchids from seeds before (well from a germinated flask technically). You can do it, the technique you're thinking of is called 'jarring' or 'flasking'. It's the same for every orchid species. I will just say that it's not worth it. If you start now then you might get a flowering plant in a decade, it is incredibly slow. Admittedly I don't know the exact timing for draculas but you are getting in for a very long and slow process and almost all of them will die. If you want to turn one orchid into more then your best bet is keiki paste, not sure if it'll work with draculas but it's worth looking into.
 
Honestly I doubt you could plant anything on turf grass without first damaging it. It's going to be so ingrained anything will just be smothered instantly.

No kids but he's welcome to try shave a pyr, I think I'd rather cut the lawn with a pair of blunt scissors before that though.

I've grown orchids from seeds before (well from a germinated flask technically). You can do it, the technique you're thinking of is called 'jarring' or 'flasking'. It's the same for every orchid species. I will just say that it's not worth it. If you start now then you might get a flowering plant in a decade, it is incredibly slow. Admittedly I don't know the exact timing for draculas but you are getting in for a very long and slow process and almost all of them will die. If you want to turn one orchid into more then your best bet is keiki paste, not sure if it'll work with draculas but it's worth looking into.
Yes, from what I saw it's about a seven year long process from seed to bloom. I only ask because I was given about 50 seeds from a woman at my work. Otherwise I wouldn't attempt it. I've revived plenty of them that people give me from years of not blooming, but this is the first time I've been given seeds.
 
Honestly I doubt you could plant anything on turf grass without first damaging it.
I dig up hawkweed (personal preference) and thistles/Queen Anne's Lace (pointy), so then I throw seeds in the holes in the grass and clay. This worked great for planting snowdrop and squill bulbs--if it's 1:1 replacement then by definition they're "naturally-spaced."
 
Yes, from what I saw it's about a seven year long process from seed to bloom. I only ask because I was given about 50 seeds from a woman at my work. Otherwise I wouldn't attempt it. I've revived plenty of them that people give me from years of not blooming, but this is the first time I've been given seeds.
If you were given '50 seeds' then your friend has been scammed. Orchid seeds are impossible to count. They are the size of dust particles, 50 seeds would be imperceptible it would be the size of a single grain of pollen. A single seed pod would make at the very minimum millions of seeds. I don't think I have ever seen anyone ever sell orchid seeds and it not be a scam, they are almost always sold as pre germinated flasks. If you do try grow them then standard don't put them in the ground or in a pot on the ground and don't allow it to go to seed unless you know what it is, treat it as if it's invasive because you do not know what it is. But I doubt whatever she has is actually from an orchid so you'd probably just be wasting your time flasking them.
 
they just rip up everything including irises

a flipper in my neighborhood ripped out a giant patch of old iris I am homicidal

however where I live the boomers are hippies so their insanity manifests differently

back to topic, I started growing sweet potatoes for leaves on the advice of the internet as an easy replacement for spinach. spinach bolts and can be fussy, sweet potato leaves are infinite and no trouble and grow all summer long
 
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If you were given '50 seeds' then your friend has been scammed. Orchid seeds are impossible to count. They are the size of dust particles, 50 seeds would be imperceptible it would be the size of a single grain of pollen. A single seed pod would make at the very minimum millions of seeds. I don't think I have ever seen anyone ever sell orchid seeds and it not be a scam, they are almost always sold as pre germinated flasks. If you do try grow them then standard don't put them in the ground or in a pot on the ground and don't allow it to go to seed unless you know what it is, treat it as if it's invasive because you do not know what it is. But I doubt whatever she has is actually from an orchid so you'd probably just be wasting your time flasking them.
That was an estimate on my part, she just dumped a bunch in a bag for me and gave them to me. I don't know anything about it honestly. I'll let her know about that. And That's a good call, I'll try and germinate them in isolation.
 
That was an estimate on my part, she just dumped a bunch in a bag for me and gave them to me. I don't know anything about it honestly. I'll let her know about that. And That's a good call, I'll try and germinate them in isolation.
What I meant is that if you can even begin to count the seeds without a microscope then they aren't orchid seeds, they literally just look like dust or a tiny amount of cotton wool. You probably wouldn't even recognise them as seeds unless someone told you.
 
Went out of town and asked my family to water my plants while I was gone as we are in a drought. Came back to find my plants watered with such enthusiasm that large amounts of soil had been sprayed from their pots and onto the ground. Also there was a massive chunk of watermelon in my mint pot. Wtf.
 
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