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the cilantro and basil outgrew the bin and single 6 band bulb.
the problem with the 6 band bulb is that any part of the plant that grows outside of the direct center will die off.
the cilantro died but the basil is still alive adjusting to window light.

here are some crops from one of my gardens outside.
it's got yellow onions, 3 kinds of bell peppers, multi colored carrots and some potatoes.
i was skeptical that carrots would even grow there so i put down only a 1/4th of soil to try.
they're growing good so i have to get the rest of the dirt, lol.

i ordered a green coconut for $15 off amazon to germinate it, coconuts that are already growing into plants are very expensive, around $100 per plant.
alternatively i found raw coconuts for germination instead of full plants for sale, but it might take up to 2 months to find out if it works.

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HERE YOU GO said:
i ordered a green coconut for $15 off amazon to germinate it, coconuts that are already growing into plants are very expensive, around $100 per plant.
alternatively i found raw coconuts for germination instead of full plants for sale, but it might take up to 2 months to find out if it works.

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While I'm not familiar with coconuts I would recommend against trying to grow fruit trees from grocery produce/seeds. The fruit might have cross pollinated with another variety or even another type (citrus can cross pollinate so you can get lime/orange crosses). Even if you get lucky and you have good seed, you're looking at several years before you'll get fruit, some seedlings are grafted and will grow much faster and fruit much sooner. I personally think the faster growth would be worth the extra money, but thats just me.

Your garden is looking pretty good, have you thought of using a mulch like woodchips? They'd help keep the soil moist, prevent nutrient leeching from rain, retard weed growth, and add nutrients to the soil as they decompose. Best of luck with your coconut germination.
 
Honored guest said:
While I'm not familiar with coconuts I would recommend against trying to grow fruit trees from grocery produce/seeds. The fruit might have cross pollinated with another variety or even another type (citrus can cross pollinate so you can get lime/orange crosses). Even if you get lucky and you have good seed, you're looking at several years before you'll get fruit, some seedlings are grafted and will grow much faster and fruit much sooner. I personally think the faster growth would be worth the extra money, but thats just me.
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i'm fine with it taking years to produce, i'm not desperate to have it grow, it was just a fun purchase.

Honored guest said:
Your garden is looking pretty good, have you thought of using a mulch like woodchips? They'd help keep the soil moist, prevent nutrient leeching from rain, retard weed growth, and add nutrients to the soil as they decompose. Best of luck with your coconut germination.
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i don't use mulch in that area because the ground is a bed of clay with flooding issues.
i try to have it as dry as possible because normally it's too wet, i'm replacing the clay with sand and compost.
 
The clay soil is so heavy here I've got a raised bed method for drainage/flooding, water retention/drought, and a way to insulate from frost or shade from sun by attaching cloth to the stakes. Cutting out the walk ways and flipping the grass/clay upside down and shaping the clay into a trench holds water but lets it drain off the ends of the beds. Clay is also a great foundation to keep flooding from washing the beds away. If the droughts get very bad it also gives a good depth to place an olla pot. Mixing cotton burr with your grow soil allows for good air flow in the roots and wicks the moister from the clay trench up to the plant roots. Layering the compost on top allows for it to wash down into the soil with water and not risk 'burning' your plants and easily remove it if you find out it has contamination from herbicides, the same goes for soil cover. You want small OLD wood chips(cedar/pine) to help hold in moister. Fresh chips will leech nutrients from your top layer of soil to start the composting process. Pest love to hide/nest in the stuff too. Hay/straw is great because it gets you moister retention but the pest predators can also easily navigate and nest in it.

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If y'all are really interested I'll upload some pictures in a follow up post.
Currently my garden has:
~48 sweet potato plants
5 hills of watermelon
1 volunteer mystery melon (I think it's cantaloupe)
6 very sad stalks of corn
Beans (a runner variety sold only as 1500 year old cave beans)
butternut squash
a "Budda Tree" in a small container
and a very sad group of Blue Butterfly Peas

This is my first year here so everything was kind of set out and planted before I knew where the shade would be midsummer. Turns out most everything is shadded mid day where I put it at, so next year it's going to be a better crop, plus I'll be adding some apples and berries!
 
SphinxItOver said:
The clay soil is so heavy here I've got a raised bed method for drainage/flooding, water retention/drought, and a way to insulate from frost or shade from sun by attaching cloth to the stakes. Cutting out the walk ways and flipping the grass/clay upside down and shaping the clay into a trench holds water but lets it drain off the ends of the beds. Clay is also a great foundation to keep flooding from washing the beds away. If the droughts get very bad it also gives a good depth to place an olla pot. Mixing cotton burr with your grow soil allows for good air flow in the roots and wicks the moister from the clay trench up to the plant roots. Layering the compost on top allows for it to wash down into the soil with water and not risk 'burning' your plants and easily remove it if you find out it has contamination from herbicides, the same goes for soil cover. You want small OLD wood chips(cedar/pine) to help hold in moister. Fresh chips will leech nutrients from your top layer of soil to start the composting process. Pest love to hide/nest in the stuff too. Hay/straw is great because it gets you moister retention but the pest predators can also easily navigate and nest in it.

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This sounds like Hügelkultur with a water retaining soil medium instead of soft organic matter. I'd consider putting a hydraulic barrier in the bottom of your set up ( 2" compacted clay -> geosynthetic -> large rocks -> compacted clay). It may help with water retention near your raised bed.
 
cuddle striker said:
will it get hotter if it's black plastic though
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I'm cheap, but I'll buy a green hose just incase. I'm also not against going and watering my self but, I see people wrap young trees here so deer stray away from, so I'm guessing maybe a two bird situation?

If anyone knows better I'm more than happy to learn and or listen but it kinda seems like a simple idea? Perhaps too simple and I'm missing a glaring flaw why no one else does it.
 
cuddle striker said:
fucking heat wave. everything is fried. working days, no time to put up a shade
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I'm actually surprised by how well my plants are doing, even though if I skip even a single day of watering, they are almost immediately dying and falling over and wilting. It's insane.

I am also still watering the ghost pepper plant even though it shows no sign of ever producing fruit. Damn it is such a beautiful plant otherwise.
 
Fun fact, in regards to heat and dryness, the hotter and dryer it is, more a chance the shistio peppers will be hot.

Now to people who aren't aware, they are kick ass and a roulette pepper the hot doesn't always come it's like 10% of the time.They have a super yummy grassy flavor and you just pan fry em and serve (with course ground salt.) It's pretty common japanese bar snack I'm told.

I've grown em before and this year one pot is being watered less, to see if they make more "hot" ones, the hot aren't the hottest or even painful but you'll know if you bite one. Personally as a dumb white guy I kinda like dipping em in soy. In theory the hotter dryer life the ratio goes like 1:8 instead of 1:10.

Got a new sprinkler today so I can be lazy with my raised planters. Works really well and was only 12 at Lowes so that was nice. Got a lot of tree trimming done, if you don't have a good extendable loper, get one, even if you don't need it, it's a badass tool and mine has a saw blade you can bolt on and my lord, the saw could fucking shave with.

Lastly on my little blog, the humming bird that loves my little plants right by the house, put on a great show, he pearched (I find it just so pretty) and CHUGGED from my trumpet vine. He was so close when I say chugged, I hand on the bible saw his throat lump as he drank nectar it was so cool. Reason why I do this stuff, well that and to eat the goodies.

Oh I said last thing but I lied, nice Tiger Swallowtail swung by, I'm glad he showed up him and his brothers ate my entire stash of dill... so pickles are delayed.
 
AnOminous said:
I'm actually surprised by how well my plants are doing, even though if I skip even a single day of watering, they are almost immediately dying and falling over and wilting. It's insane.

I am also still watering the ghost pepper plant even though it shows no sign of ever producing fruit. Damn it is such a beautiful plant otherwise.
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pot it up for the winter. they're perennials if they stay warm
 
My watermelons are loving all the heat and humidity. They should be ready to harvest by the end of August.
 
I'm pulling some of my garlic plants now. The earliest ripening ones look done.

Also picking a couple cups of raspberries every day this week.
 
Bassomatic said:
Fun fact, in regards to heat and dryness, the hotter and dryer it is, more a chance the shistio peppers will be hot.
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This can be said for most hot peppers, I know a guy who goes out of his way to stress his pepper plants and he gets some really hot fruit from them.
AnOminous said:
I'm actually surprised by how well my plants are doing, even though if I skip even a single day of watering, they are almost immediately dying and falling over and wilting. It's insane.

I am also still watering the ghost pepper plant even though it shows no sign of ever producing fruit. Damn it is such a beautiful plant otherwise.
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The species of pepper that ghost peppers are in are very slow to fruit, as mentioned by a previous poster if you really want more peppers from the plant it might be worth putting it in a pot and overwintering it so that it'll have a head start next year. Overwintering peppers involved some serious pruning, to the point where its also painful with how much foliage you have to remove.
 
WanderingFarmer said:
If y'all are really interested I'll upload some pictures in a follow up post.
Currently my garden has:
~48 sweet potato plants
5 hills of watermelon
1 volunteer mystery melon (I think it's cantaloupe)
6 very sad stalks of corn
Beans (a runner variety sold only as 1500 year old cave beans)
butternut squash
a "Budda Tree" in a small container
and a very sad group of Blue Butterfly Peas

This is my first year here so everything was kind of set out and planted before I knew where the shade would be midsummer. Turns out most everything is shadded mid day where I put it at, so next year it's going to be a better crop, plus I'll be adding some apples and berries!
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I'm just getting my sweet potatoes started. My first sweet potato finally started sending up slips two or three weeks ago and I imagine next week they will be big enough to cut and get started cultivating. I won't have a lot because they will be in my greenhouse, but I'd like to have a few for funsies.

I'm currently harvesting potatoes and replanting a few of them for a winter crop. I guess it was the right move to plant potatoes because the prices on them are skyrocketing.
 
Kvervandi said:
I'm just getting my sweet potatoes started. My first sweet potato finally started sending up slips two or three weeks ago and I imagine next week they will be big enough to cut and get started cultivating. I won't have a lot because they will be in my greenhouse, but I'd like to have a few for funsies.

I'm currently harvesting potatoes and replanting a few of them for a winter crop. I guess it was the right move to plant potatoes because the prices on them are skyrocketing.
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I'd recommend looking into a squash called "Tennessee Sweet Potato" as well for next year.
Thanks for mentioning planting potatoes for a winter crop, I hadn't thought about doing that!
 
cuddle striker said:
fucking heat wave. everything is fried. working days, no time to put up a shade
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The squirrels and all the animals this year absolutely decimated anyone with an orchard, shit was gone before it ripened.
Pecan harvest might be 100% fucked this year, nuts probably not gonna fill in this weather in the southern US.

Speaking of which, anyone found a good place to buy large packs of seeds? I cannot for the sake of god find seeds in good quality anywhere and I work in agriculture for a living.
 
Honored guest said:
some seedlings are grafted and will grow much faster and fruit much sooner.
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Practically any fruit or nut tree you get from a nursery is going to be grafted 'cause that's how they can offer a consistent product. There are some exceptions like avocado trees. That's why you have to be vigilant and pull any suckers out if you see them, though this must not be common knowledge since a bunch of trees in my neighborhood have been totally taken over by their rootstock.

Anyway all my sunflowers died because the high temps just wouldn't let up. Think I'm probably unofficially zone 10B now.
 
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