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I still think LW2 is a highly disingenuous person who at least believes her own (or her boyfriend's) bullshit, and until shown otherwise I'm going to keep interpreting it as such. However, if you are in fact right, it feels like she is in far too deep with this latest gambit. Not only could she be laughed out of the industry Jack-Thompson-style if discredited appropriately, but these SJWs are the kind of people who would serve as the more aggressive doppelgangers of CWCki. They'd be sending noose-tied rope and harassment mail to Burger King or wherever the hell she would end up working in afterwards. Considering how forceful LW2's messages are becoming, we could expect some message of enacting full-blown patricide in the not-too-distant future.
You'll get no argument from me, Chris Guy. Even under the best of circumstances - the ones that paint Sarkeesian as honestly sympathetic - she comes across, at best, as a con-artist who fell into this by accident. It's actually remarkable how closely her trajectory follows that of commentators on the exact opposite end of the political spectrum - where they have to get increasingly insane to fire up the base.
 
You'll get no argument from me, Chris Guy. Even under the best of circumstances - the ones that paint Sarkeesian as honestly sympathetic - she comes across, at best, as a con-artist who fell into this by accident. It's actually remarkable how closely her trajectory follows that of commentators on the exact opposite end of the political spectrum - where they have to get increasingly insane to fire up the base.

Yep, I felt a distinct reminder of Glenn Beck and Alex Jones while I was writing about it, actually.

Also, [UPDATE]: 8Chan is currently being flooded with CP, and mods and members are hard at work reporting, banning and deleting threads.

So do you think it's Goons? Could SJWs really sink this low?
 
Yep, I felt a distinct reminder of Glenn Beck and Alex Jones while I was writing about it, actually.

Also, [UPDATE]: 8Chan is currently being flooded with CP, and mods and members are hard at work reporting, banning and deleting threads.

So do you think it's Goons? Could SJWs really sink this low?
Smart money is a bit of both.
 
8Chan is currently being flooded with CP, and mods and members are hard at work reporting, banning and deleting threads.

So do you think it's Goons? Could SJWs really sink this low?
Possibly SWJs (some people do crazy things for 'the greater good'), but my bets are on somebody just trying to cause trouble for fun.
 
Also, [UPDATE]: 8Chan is currently being flooded with CP, and mods and members are hard at work reporting, banning and deleting threads.

So do you think it's Goons? Could SJWs really sink this low?

We'll know as soon as one of the main SJWs crows about how Gamergate supports child abuse.
 
We'll know as soon as one of the main SJWs crows about how Gamergate supports child abuse.

You know, I think it would be pertinent for Hotwheels to secretly contact law enforcement and have them watch 8chan for just two weeks and track IP logging. I mean really, it would sure help a lot if these people could be caught red-handed and the mystery could finally be solved.

You'd only have to partyvan one person in order to stop everyone else from doing it. People are far less douchey when they can go to jail for it.

Still, look on the bright side: Any pro-Gamergate person who has actually visited 8chan is probably used to the rubbish that's been perpetrated by now. They don't stand to lose any of those people from this incident.

[UPDATE]: Scratch that part on the "mods" contributing to flagging CP, they don't seem to be on. Hire some people in Europe, Howheels. Jeez....
 
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I wish people talked more about Nathan Grayson giving Robin Arnott more coverage due to their friendship. The problem is it's kind of past that point and now we're talking about fights between people not actually involved in fucking with journalism ethics but the fights between pro and anti. One reason Zoe keeps popping up is because she won't shut the fuck up about it to this day. Pretty much everyone else involved in the initial Five Guys thing has learned to keep their heads down. I think Robin Arnott has a total of two or three whole tweets about the incident and that was only in august after it broke. Oddly enough he later retweeted an article of a 15 year old boy getting convicted for swatting someone.

In the beginning of this Nathan Grayson was getting so much shit and he'd respond. Then he learned to heavily regulate what he said over twitter and even his facebook after it got infiltrated. These people weren't targeted less because they were male. They just knew it was a bad idea to antagonize a group of pissed off people. Meanwhile new crazies were popping up and functioning like lightning rods. That's why Zoe is still being brought up. Not because she's a woman but because she's a nutjob. Same with her boyfriend. They both taunted and egged people on. Now Alex can't get work because studios wants nothing to do with him and apparently they have fled to the UK to hide. Meanwhile Robin Arnott's twitter is filled with self-promotion, what he ate, and games he's playing.

Right now I follow Gamergate like I do a tabloid. It'd be nice to see Gawker take even more of a hit. It'd be nice if people like Ben Kuchera weren't the gatekeepers between the tiers of indie gaming. It'd be nice if Zoe Quinn was revealed for the sociopath she was, that Nathan Grayson could never get a job in journalism again, and that the cliques in the indie gaming scene didn't function like a cafeteria in a high school. I'm not sure what to say when Gawker going down seems like the most likely thing out of all of those to happen.

I'm just going to go play video games and hope a decent game comes out this winter.
 
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Any validity to this?
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No there isn't.
 
[UPDATE]: Scratch that part on the "mods" contributing to flagging CP, they don't seem to be on. Hire some people in Europe, Howheels. Jeez....

They're abusing the part that I bolded, perhaps.

Without people who can moderate the site at night, they're going to spam CP, get images of the now very inappropriate site, and essentially attempt to take the entirety of 8chan down by stating that the entire site is like that all the time.

Use your brain, think, etc.

I seriously doubt the SJW-types are that clever, however, so I suspect it's just some asswipes... But who knows?
 
That's twice now in this thread today that people have pointed out Marvin is either confused or trolling because he has a difference of opinion.

It wasn't because he has a different opinion it was because he wasn't answering why he thought it was sexist just repeating the accusation.
 
Well, the tendrils of GamerGate have finally snaked their way into my own social community, which is an utter shame considering they're all anti-GG. The most insulting part of it all is that a great deal of them are scientists. Fucking scientists, the supposedly-practitioning embodiment of critical and logical thinking. They argue how badly the media tries to skew scientific fact for its own purposes, but then they turn around and say, "Gamergate-must-be-a-misogynistic-hate-group-of-males-because-the-media-says-so!" Pretty hypocritical thinking.

But whatever, this whole issue has been enlightening in the sense that a lot of people aren't really what they pretending to be. I really hope GamerGate wins out in this conflict, just so a shit-ton of people have the reality check they needed and realize, "Wow, I really was a massive dick to people."
 
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Well, maybe if her game didn't look like ass, this wouldn't be a problem. Let's do a comparison:

This is Wu's game, Revolution 60:

Now, to contrast, here's a F2P game that's also on Kongregate, The Peacekeeper:

The player on the second one is pretty bad, but at the same time, look at how much faster and genuinely more interesting the F2P game is. The art style is more interesting and colorful, the hit detection and gameplay more rewarding and fun. There's not massive periods of absolutely fuck all going on like there is in Revolution 60 - and it's fucking free.

This is one of the main issues I have with the likes of a Wu. She's convinced that a game with relatively little effort should be supported just because she made it - it's this sort of isolated thinking that could only come from an echo-chamber like the one she tends to lock herself in. She's convinced of her game's greatness when it's a mediocre game with sluggish gameplay, hit detection issues, and serious platform exclusivity - as in, it's only available via iOS, and thus completely inaccessible to all other phone platforms. She was going into an oversaturated market to begin with, one where only the best and biggest or those who have the lowest production costs have even a snowball's chance in hell of making back their dev costs. That she's surprised that Revolution 60 isn't a breakout success is pretty telling.

I didn't even cover the likes of Revolution 60's character design being no better than any other modern female "operative" character wearing tight-fitting catsuits, the fact that a lot of its environments appear to be made with iOS Unreal Engine baseline assets, or the fact that they somehow got Amanda Winn-Lee to do the voice for the protagonist, all of which suggest that the main goal was just getting this game together and out the door ASAP. For all I know, the plot the game has is absolutely unimaginably awesome, but Wu already took down the fucking story trailer, so I guess we'll never know now.
 
What's the story behind Wu's game? Anything interesting?

Because all I see is a bland, thin, "sexy", blonde white woman in a typical action game.
 
[UPDATE]: It seems that a number of Gawker sponsors listed on their website were contacted and have told e-mailers that they are not actually advertising or supporting Gawker, and are seeking to get their brands removed. I don't know about the policies regarding this sort of practice, but is it illegal to falsely advertise that companies are supporting you when they're not for personal gain?

I didn't even cover the likes of Revolution 60's character design being no better than any other modern female "operative" character wearing tight-fitting catsuits, the fact that a lot of its environments appear to be made with iOS Unreal Engine baseline assets, or the fact that they somehow got Amanda Winn-Lee to do the voice for the protagonist, all of which suggest that the main goal was just getting this game together and out the door ASAP. For all I know, the plot the game has is absolutely unimaginably awesome, but Wu already took down the fucking story trailer, so I guess we'll never know now.

Amanda Winn-Lee, you say? I liked her dubbing job for Rei Ayanami, but I haven't really been impressed by her other work. This isn't any different.

I suppose I shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but purely based from observation, Wu's game looks like Dynamite Cop and DDR had an ugly baby. Likewise, flipping about like you have the Dark Wood Grain Ring mixed with steroids over and over again for so little gain in the fight doesn't seem like it would be a very enjoyable experience. Of course that's only my preliminary observation and I could very well be wrong, but I'm not going to endorse Brianna Wu by buying her game just to prove this point.
 
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