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trombonista said:
Apparently her boyfriend Jonathan McIntosh (I should call him Apple Man) runs the Feminist Frequency Twitter.
Funny that she allows a man to speak for her and supports him doing so.

Maybe I should watch her videos to form a proper feminist rebuttal (and possibly practice my riffing).
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So... are you telling me this Jonathan, who I believe is a man (unless he is in fact an android or replicant), is speaking for a woman... the same woman who claims to be a feminist.

...

The ride never ends.
 
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So... are you telling me this Jonathan, who I believe is a man (unless he is in fact an android or replicant), is speaking for a woman... the same woman who claims to be a feminist.

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The ride never ends.
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It was something they theorized in the latest Internet Aristocrat video. That Anita/John is actually a patriarchal relationship and she's just a proxy for John's statements.
 
Jaimas said:
It's not about logic, reason, or common sense. It's about clickbaiting.

It's about saying the most offensive, ridiculous, absolutely insane thing to drive clicks and get views. If you get pissed and look at her content, she wins. If she provokes you till you respond in anger, she wins.

Interestingly, did you know that Anita writes none of her own material or tweets? It's actually quite true. Her writer is none other than Jonathan McIntosh, a guy who we've mocked here pretty resoundingly in the past for being one of the most bug-fuckingly obvious clickbait voices on Twitter (quite an accomplishment in and of itself). This is also why she never appears without having cleared her material beforehand, and will never answer a debate - she doesn't write any of her own stuff.
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Then she's a lazy, good-for-nothing, pathetic, FUCKING DISGUSTING LEECH.

Zero-effort people who don't do anything, or do virtually nothing and expect to be praised for it are a personal hatred of mine, and for good reason. All of the people who do shit like that ONLY WANT ATTENTION. Doesn't matter to them what they do or how good it is, they just seek attention and to be the center of existence itself because they can't stand actually having to work for anything whatsoever. Just pressing a button and instant fame/riches/power/etc, and everyone ever to say that they're the greatest thing that can and will ever exist in any point in time or plane of existence because they did that.
 
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Mechanism Eight said:
Then she's a lazy, good-for-nothing, pathetic, FUCKING DISGUSTING LEECH.
Zero-effort people who don't do anything, or do virtually nothing and expect to be praised for it are a personal hatred of mine, and for good reason. All of the people who do shit like that ONLY WANT ATTENTION.
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No. They want money.
 
Mechanism Eight said:
Then she's a lazy, good-for-nothing, pathetic, FUCKING DISGUSTING LEECH.

Zero-effort people who don't do anything, or do virtually nothing and expect to be praised for it are a personal hatred of mine, and for good reason. All of the people who do shit like that ONLY WANT ATTENTION. Doesn't matter to them what they do or how good it is, they just seek attention and to be the center of existence itself because they can't stand actually having to work for anything whatsoever. Just pressing a button and instant fame/riches/power/etc, and everyone ever to say that they're the greatest thing that can and will ever exist in any point in time or plane of existence because they did that.
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Actually? Can I propose an alternate viewpoint? Not disagreeing with you outright, just hear me out. Moment of Devil's Advocate here.

I don't think that Anita wound up in this by choice. I think she was brought in as someone who had a few good ideas, and wound up, by someone's design, becoming a veritable icon for those around her, a source of cult-like and frankly terrifying adoration. The so-called SJW movement, for better or for worse, lionizes her and treats her with the reverence of a saint.

And yet, when we see Sarkeesian speak publicly, she's clearly not a very good public speaker. She's clearly nervous around big crowds. She doesn't tend to react well when she's put on the spot, and we've never seen her enter a debate. Her reactions during that teleseminar video are extremely telling. Anita, right now, in the mother of all ironies, is nothing but a mouthpiece. She may be willingly part of this (there's a ton of money in it), she might not, but my personal belief is that she's there because she really has no choice. If she leaves, she'll be cut to ribbons (metaphorically) by the so-called SJWs that deify her. After all, they cannot be wrong about everything being the patriarchy's fault.

She's damned if she stays, losing more and more credibility as her handlers are driven to extremes to generate the same clickbait and revenue with increasingly intense scare tactics and stronger and stronger language. She's damned if she goes, targetable by the very people who right now claim she's the embodiment of everything awesome in feminism today.

Perhaps the most bitter irony of Sarkeesian is that even if everything about her goes along a holding pattern, she's screwed either way. Increasing the volume of the crazy just alienates the norms, even as it generates clicks. Eventually you get to the point where the only market they have is the batshit crazy. And we've seen this before in the media - many times. If she tries to ratchet it back, she risks alienating the base, and the base will tear her limb from limb for being insufficiently insane. If she stays between the two, she ceases to be relevant - the copycat provocateurs will eventually outstrip her, and she will fade from relevance.

That's kind of why I can't really stay angry at her for that hilariously offensive article. She didn't write it, probably had no real hand in it, yet has to live it, for better or worse.

I kind of feel sorry for her, given this knowledge. Even if she is in this nonsense for the money and/or ego trip.
 
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Any validity to this?
 
Green Puddin said:
I'VE BEEN BAMBOOZLED
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Happens to the best of us sometimes.

I remember calling bullshit when I saw ads with Our Pet Lolcow over Times Square, and that turned out to have actually happened.

But I digress.

An idle thought occurred to me in all of this. Quinn recently fucked off to Europe with Lifschitz. We all thought it might've been the Mike Cenovich SWAT-ing, but what if it wasn't? Think about what happened with Sarkeesian. Think about the fact that Quinn was essentially willing to "Fuck this, I'm out" recently on Twitter, thanking 8chan for stopping further doxxing of her, and openly admitting to the sexual scandal.

My personal belief is less that she's seeking to flee accountability - that's already sailed - and more that she's cutting her losses. I don't think she wants to be involved with this any more. She's pulling the Phil Fish route - she's leaving the playing field. She's had a lot of her life under the microscope - so has Lifschitz, for being batshit insane - and they both see the writing on the wall. They're going dark, trying to fade into the background.

If they get loud again, then I'm wrong, and will freely admit to such, but between Phil Fish's behavior (which I called previously) and several others involved.... It's something to consider.
 
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Jaimas said:
Happens to the best of us sometimes.

I remember calling bullshit when I saw the Our Pet Lolcow over Times Square ads, and that turned out to have actually happened.

But I digress.

An idle thought occurred to me in all of this. Quinn recently fucked off to Europe with Lifschitz. We all thought it might've been the Mike Cenovich SWAT-ing, but what if it wasn't? Think about what happened with Sarkeesian. Think about the fact that Quinn was essentially willing to "Fuck this, I'm out" recently on Twitter, thanking 8chan for stopping further doxxing of her, and openly admitting to the sexual scandal.

My personal belief is less that she's seeking to flee accountability - that's already sailed - and more that she's cutting her losses. I don't think she wants to be involved with this any more. She's pulling the Phil Fish route - she's leaving the playing field. She's had a lot of her life under the microscope - so has Lifschitz, for being batshit insane - and they both see the writing on the wall. They're going dark, trying to fade into the background.

If they get loud again, then I'm wrong, and will freely admit to such, but between Phil Fish's behavior (which I called previously) and several others involved.... It's something to consider.
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With Quinn having actually thanked GGers and leaving the picture, that hurts the anti-GG group since without one of the major standing examples of this 'misogony' around, the one that led to GG in the first place, that's a major supporting block they lose.
 
Optimus Prime said:
With Quinn having actually thanked GGers and leaving the picture, that hurts the anti-GG group since without one of the major standing examples of this 'misogony' around, the one that led to GG in the first place, that's a major supporting block they lose.
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Which makes one wonder: If Quinn genuinely pulled the Kevorkian Dodge (to coin a term from a friend of mine to describe one harming/shutting down to escape criticism/controversy) like Fish, then what is the response going to be from the Anti-GGers? She just shot down one of their biggest attack vectors. In essence, she threw the so-called SJWs under the bus. They'll either need to amplify (which is working so well for Anita, amirite) or to find new blood.

They can try to create a new Literally Who to claim this entire affair's about, to be sure, but all eyes are watching now - it'll be much harder to actually pull off via false-flagging....

Rammspieler said:
I have no time to go into details here.

But I found this little tidbit on the Ask Dr. Nerdlove blog and it just made me glad that the guy isn't a real doctor in anything.

http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2014/10/when-we-talk-about-gamergate/
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....There are only 2 words for the level of crazy expressed in this article:

"Full McIntosh."
 
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So here's a recap of the whole Mike Cernovich incident from 8chan.

This week, twitter user idlediletante (“Caroline”) wrote a blog accusing based lawyer (Mike Cernovich) of being a harasser and vocal abuser of women (when realistically, he just make a handful of preposterous but ultimately harmless tweets). However the blog post happen to feature a picture of Mike’s home, along with his address. Essentially, ‘Caroline’ doxxed Mike.

But this shit gets better. LW1 retweeted the blogpost to her 30K plus followers. Therefore, she spread Mike's doxxing info. Mike, being an attorney, take keen notice of this situation, calls out Caroline and LW1, and hires a private investigator to look into LW1. This is arguably why LW1 took off for the UK.

Now here’s where shit got real. Yesterday, Caroline got the bright idea to get Mike swatted (because of some bullshit he said via twitter). ==Do not ever fucking do this!== Thankfully, pro-GGers alerted Mike of the action just in time and he managed to alert the LAPD for Carolina’s false police file. He flees his house to play it safe and avoid a possible confrontation with the SWAT team. Caroline’s false claim gets the FBI’s attention as they start investigating Carolina.

Which brings us to today. Apparently Caroline is a dipshit college student indoctrinated with SJW logic. As a sign of mercy, Mike offers Caroline a chance to apologize and admit her actions. Being an arrogant femanazi prick, she straight-up lied to his face by claiming that she didn’t file the police report and that he was a misogynist… when in fact Mike actually has the bulletproof evidence of Caroline's actions.

Mike responds: he drafts a lawsuit and warns Caroline to get her shit together for a court case. So far in the last 24 hours, Carolina has proven time and time again that she no fucking clue how lawsuits and/or the judicial system works. So she flees to a hotel room…. which expounds the fucking fact that she ‘’did'' call the swat team on Mike’s ass. Basically she’s on the run from the law.

Did I mention LW1 was somehow directly involved with all of this? You can’t make this shit up.
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Jaimas said:
Actually? Can I propose an alternate viewpoint? Not disagreeing with you outright, just hear me out. Moment of Devil's Advocate here.

I don't think that Anita wound up in this by choice. I think she was brought in as someone who had a few good ideas, and wound up, by someone's design, becoming a veritable icon for those around her, a source of cult-like and frankly terrifying adoration. The so-called SJW movement, for better or for worse, lionizes her and treats her with the reverence of a saint.

And yet, when we see Sarkeesian speak publicly, she's clearly not a very good public speaker. She's clearly nervous around big crowds. She doesn't tend to react well when she's put on the spot, and we've never seen her enter a debate. Her reactions during that teleseminar video are extremely telling. Anita, right now, in the mother of all ironies, is nothing but a mouthpiece. She may be willingly part of this (there's a ton of money in it), she might not, but my personal belief is that she's there because she really has no choice. If she leaves, she'll be cut to ribbons (metaphorically) by the so-called SJWs that deify her. After all, they cannot be wrong about everything being the patriarchy's fault.

She's damned if she stays, losing more and more credibility as her handlers are driven to extremes to generate the same clickbait and revenue with increasingly intense scare tactics and stronger and stronger language. She's damned if she goes, targetable by the very people who right now claim she's the embodiment of everything awesome in feminism today.

Perhaps the most bitter irony of Sarkeesian is that even if everything about her goes along a holding pattern, she's screwed either way. Increasing the volume of the crazy just alienates the norms, even as it generates clicks. Eventually you get to the point where the only market they have is the batshit crazy. And we've seen this before in the media - many times. If she tries to ratchet it back, she risks alienating the base, and the base will tear her limb from limb for being insufficiently insane. If she stays between the two, she ceases to be relevant - the copycat provocateurs will eventually outstrip her, and she will fade from relevance.

That's kind of why I can't really stay angry at her for that hilariously offensive article. She didn't write it, probably had no real hand in it, yet has to live it, for better or worse.

I kind of feel sorry for her, given this knowledge. Even if she is in this nonsense for the money and/or ego trip.
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I still think LW2 is a highly disingenuous person who at least believes her own (or her boyfriend's) bullshit, and until shown otherwise I'm going to keep interpreting it as such. However, if you are in fact right, it feels like she is in far too deep with this latest gambit. Not only could she be laughed out of the industry Jack-Thompson-style if discredited appropriately, but these SJWs are the kind of people who would serve as the more aggressive doppelgangers of CWCki. They'd be sending noose-tied rope and harassment mail to Burger King or wherever the hell she would end up working in afterwards. At the rate of how forceful LW2's messages are becoming, we could expect some message of enacting full-blown patricide in the future if she goes "full Macintosh".
 
tehpope said:
So here's a recap of the whole Mike Cernovich incident from 8chan.
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This is what happens when you try to make all those who aren't feverishly supporting your cause your enemy whether they actually are your enemy or not.
 
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