🎭 Dramacow Gamergate / Depression Quest Shitstorm

[Trickie]

Just generalizing here but, I don't know why people should worry about being"doxxed" by these kinds of people. What can they seriously do? Say mean things to you over social media? Call you at random times at night, while trying to hide their giggling like 16 y/o girls? "Swat" you while playing an online game? Call the FBI on you? Most of these people who"dox" other people don't even live in the same state, or country. I don't even think many of them grasp the simple concept of harassment, or even the basic fundamentals of law in general. It is all really quite sad that the death of another human being is being politicized and being used as fuel for the SJW's fire.

"SWAT"ing alone is no laughing matter. When these guys bust into your home, they need to assume the worst is going on, and if it even looks like you're about to harm them or someone else, things can get ugly very quick. It's not all the time, but mistakes and misunderstandings do happen in these situations.

 

[Partyboy]

Smear campaigns or getting fired are no fun. Swatting either.

Right, because a legitimate company is really going to listen to someone who suspiciously knows about someone who may, or may not be in their employ. And obviously that person does not work there, and the company would want some pretty compelling evidence, other than that person saying mean things to someone over the internet. Swatting however, is easy to duck, just play games with friends, and have your gaming profiles privatized Don't accept strange friend requests. Oh, and do not be internet famous.


Part of me understands the folly of the internet though when it comes to social media and publicly available information . I read an article in Wired about how a female programmer was attending a pretty(in her opinion) male-centric conference about programming. She overheard two guys making comments about female programmers, told then nicely that it was improper. They ignored her(granted that was not right of them to do, but not my point)Said programmer went on to make a scathing rant over social media. All parties involved found out and that eventually cost those two men, and herself their jobs. So, these kinds of things work both ways. It's not always in their best interest either to "dox" anyone.

 

[Partyboy]

"SWAT"ing alone is no laughing matter. When these guys bust into your home, they need to assume the worst is going on, and if it even looks like you're about to harm them or someone else, things can get ugly very quick. It's not all the time, but mistakes and misunderstandings do happen in these situations.

Don't get me wrong, I know "swatting" is serious, all I was saying is that it can be avoided by taking precautions and being careful who you play with.

 

[Trickie]

Don't get me wrong, I know "swatting" is serious, all I was saying is that it can be avoided by taking precautions and being careful who you play with.

It's not just who you play with, all they really need to "SWAT" you is your address. You don't even need to game with them, it's just that most people find it more amusing when they can see it happening on camera.

 

[Partyboy]

It's not just who you play with, all they really need to "SWAT" you is your address. You don't even need to game with them, it's just that most people find it more amusing when they can see it happening on camera.

I still remember when Kootra got swatted. I found it oddly pathetic that people do that. It just kind of blows that these people never get held accountable for that stuff because being behind seven proxies. I really don't get the thrill people get over the possibility that a complete stranger could be hurt or killed because they made them mad over the internet.

 

[QI 541]

Right, because a legitimate company is really going to listen to someone who suspiciously knows about someone who may, or may not be in their employ. And obviously that person does not work there, and the company would want some pretty compelling evidence, other than that person saying mean things to someone over the internet.

You have more faith in humans than they deserve.
http://gamergate.giz.moe/2014/09/ra...sed-in-real-life-at-least-one-lost-their-job/

Part of me understands the folly of the internet though when it comes to social media and publicly available information . I read an article in Wired about how a female programmer was attending a pretty(in her opinion) male-centric conference about programming. She overheard two guys making comments about female programmers, told then nicely that it was improper. They ignored her(granted that was not right of them to do, but not my point)Said programmer went on to make a scathing rant over social media. All parties involved found out and that eventually cost those two men, and herself their jobs. So, these kinds of things work both ways. It's not always in their best interest either to "dox" anyone.

That's a nice story. Why don't you hear the other side.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5398681

 

[Gothicserpent]

Philhouse.

 

[Partyboy]

You have more faith in humans than they deserve.
http://gamergate.giz.moe/2014/09/ra...sed-in-real-life-at-least-one-lost-their-job/



That's a nice story. Why don't you hear the other side.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5398681

Perhaps. And I only mentioned that story to state that little things can cause bigger problems for everyone. Not to mention I don't exactly remember the full article, so I may have gotten a few things wrong, or inadvertently omitted information.

Philhouse.

I think we've found the leaked box art for Fez 2!

 

[Trickie]

Not sure whether to put this here or in the Homer thread, but...

Look who's helping* spearhead GamerGate's newest operation. Somehow I don't think Homer understands what peer review actually is.

*Edited because it seems like technically he wasn't the first, but just one of the first people to start the hashtag.

 

[QI 541]

Perhaps. And I only mentioned that story to state that little things can cause bigger problems for everyone. Not to mention I don't exactly remember the full article, so I may have gotten a few things wrong, or inadvertently omitted information.

Yeah, a few things, like the part where the joke had nothing to do with sexism, or the part where they ignored her, or the part where she even told them anything before posting that picture. You know, things that completely change the tone of the story.

Little things can cause bigger problems for everyone. But most of the time doxxing only causes the doxxed party problems.

 

[Partyboy]

Yeah, a few things, like the part where the joke had nothing to do with sexism, or the part where they ignored her, or the part where she even told them anything before posting that picture. You know, things that completely change the tone of the story.

Little things can cause bigger problems for everyone. But most of the time doxxing only causes the doxxed party problems.

It was an honest mistake. No need to get all bristly over it.

 

[QI 541]

I'll drop it then.

Back on point: Don't underestimate the threat of being doxxed. Consequences can range from harassment to getting fired.

 

[Partyboy]

I'll drop it then.

No worries!

 

[Watcher]

Internet Aristocrat is streaming and Copypaste is discussing Moot and SJWs

 

[Francis York Morgan]

Not sure whether to put this here or in the Homer thread, but...

Look who's helping* spearhead GamerGate's newest operation. Somehow I don't think Homer understands what peer review actually is.

*Edited because it seems like technically he wasn't the first, but just one of the first people to start the hashtag.

I have a couple of the works cited in Sargon's video. I'll post if I have anything interesting.

 

[Batman VS Tony Danza]

I really dislike the idea of Homer trying to round people up for this. I hope any fruits that come out of it will rely on OTHER people doing the fact checking. Homer has such a huge fucking bone to pick with feminists that I wouldn't trust his bias not to seep through and make mountains out of molehills causing the attempt to come off as purely petty rather than informative.

This GamerGate thing is his wet dream. Funny enough I don't think his videos have boosted in views at all.

 

[ordinarycough]

Not a bad idea in theory, but suggested by an exceptional individual, and that realistically wont turn up much.

Can't speak to what dirga does exactly in terms of research but if they're conducting polls and using data sets to make their conclusions the fault wont lie what they cite. Really it's just about how data is interpreted/presented. Which can be manipulated to say almost anything you want, but it's much harder to demonstrate there is a bias/manipulation to the extent that it would discredit previously peer reviewed research. And even discrediting research doesn't technically mean the end of it unless there is a wide consensus in academia that it's fraudulent. What the internet thinks doesn't matter. It's much easier for other researchers to completely discredit previous research with their own conclusions.

Of course if they're citing literature reviews or other literature... well you would have to look at how those articles deal with data etc. etc.

All of this being done will navigating all the little nuances and linguistical gate-keeping of academia-ese. Academia is, by design, made to keep outsiders out and maintain a relatively stable status quo. That's why tenure exists, for example. It also doesn't help that most research is only typically read by the researcher and the journal that publishes it, there's some (occasionally) disputed figures that say over 90% of research papers are never cited.

I don't doubt you'd find problems or completely false articles but the direct effect that it would have on anything would be minimal. Again, intentional in the design of academia. Efforts are better spent talking to advertisers where the results are actually tangible.

When you want change, look to the places where there is money involved. You can argue ideology in academics all day if you want, but don't expect much to happen unless people's wallets start hurting.

 

[Varis]

Un-GG-related Zoe ggls.

 

[Trickie]

Un-GG-related Zoe ggls.

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Not GG related, but for some reason she tagged it with #Gamergate. There were people on 8chan really wanting to go after this too, as well as a dozen people trying to sage the thread and convince everyone to ignore it, insisting that GG isn't about Zoe anymore.

At this point I'm starting to wonder who they're trying to convince.

 

[Varis]

Not GG related, but for some reason she tagged it with #Gamergate. There were people on 8chan really wanting to go after this too, as well as a dozen people trying to sage the thread and convince everyone to ignore it, insisting that GG isn't about Zoe anymore.

At this point I'm starting to wonder who they're trying to convince.

Reddit declared this unrelated as well.

GamerGate is a chaotic movement and contains people that are easily excited. It is a tide that cannot be controlled, only gently nudged in the right direction.

Edit: For the record, I did post the caps just to point and giggle. Because I'm an asshole.