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I just tried a couple of minutes of DQ and it is bloody awful. Depression effects different people in different ways but it does not prevent you from asking for help. It can make it difficult but the option is always there. Denying the player the option to discuss their problems with people is assuming that no depressed people do. All this game has shown me so far is what it is like to be a self-interested git wizard.

I thought it might explore the reasons for depression. The real reasons. Not the lies we tell ourselves to make us look like the misunderstood anti-hero.
 
Cobalt said:
My 2 wanted cents on this: I think the whole thing is retarded, yes what Zoe did is wrong but, no, she doesnt deserve to get harassed the same way Chris doesnt deserve to have weens call him and yell "IM BATMAN". She does deserve the criticism though, I mean, what kind of message is she trying to send to other women? "Dont give me shit about being dishonest and literally fucking people over because Im a girl?"
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I dunno. She advocated that sleeping with your partner after cheating on them and not disclosing it is rape. She cheated on Eron with 5 guys that he knows about. One of those guys was married and she fucked him repeatedly, knowing that he would then go home and fuck his wife. She still maintains she's a feminist and uses that demographic to make her money. She sabotaged a charity for petty "feminist" reasons. She fucked her way to a career and yet tells ladies they can be strong and independant.

I really can't say I have any sympathy for the human leech.
 
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Cuddlebug said:
If Zoe didn't want to be harassed she shouldn't have tried to censor people and then ludicrously defend her positions whilst also trying her hardest to stamp out criticism of her actions. All while manipulating others for her own personal gain.

Zoe is a pretty clear example of the Streisand effect in full view. And I really hope future generations will learn not to lie to groups of people on the internet and expect to get away with it.
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The Internet is also a horrible place to let your mental health issues run about and play. I think she needs to support herself with a nice quiet job while she gets assistance for some fairly severe issues, though her cheerleaders calling her a "brave hero" are making it difficult to believe she'll ever seek that assistance. Tell me what's worse: some trolls calling you names or some defenders assuring a person who says she "literally has brain damage" that she's an unassailable icon of strength and judgment?

Did anybody else notice Eron in the logs encouraging her to see a therapist while the creator of a game called Depression Quest did everything possible to renege on her promise to do so?
 
CatParty said:
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Oh, Homer. :roll: And then these guys wonder why nobody takes "gaming journalism" seriously.

On that note, there's no many internet personalities that analyze games, that it's easy to just follow guys like Jim Sterling and Total Biscuit in order to get something, somewhat reliable and interesting. If the Zoegate scandal has done anything, is shown which gaming personalities can keep cool heads and mantain a rational discussion....and which personalities are assholes (In both, "Zoe is a cheating whore" or "Zoe is an feminist angel", camps).
 
spaps said:
I was about to make a big post about how this whole thing is changing nothing, making gamers look bad because the general public has been made to believe that the SJWs are the good guys, but suddenly HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER:
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How does the Internet Aristocrat's videos help circulate Zoe's dox and nude photos? From what I remember, I didn't see any of that from those videos.
 
There weren't any nudes or dox in the video. She is claiming that the video comments contain (falsely) the information. Same way I could claim cwcki forums should be shot down cause there are some weens on the board never minding that those people are banned and plans for harassing threads deleted.
 
He never mentioned her nudes, let alone linkage to them.

Why the fuck is there so much miscommunication? Why don't these people actually just try to watch IA videos?
 
balcolm said:
He never mentioned her nudes, let alone linkage to them.

Why the fuck is there so much miscommunication? Why don't these people actually just try to watch IA videos?
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Because they might find themselves *gulp* acknowledging their own faults.
 
balcolm said:
He never mentioned her nudes, let alone linkage to them.

Why the fuck is there so much miscommunication? Why don't these people actually just try to watch IA videos?
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I'm sure that wouldn't change anything. Their goal isn't to inform, it's to spread misinformation and prevent people from watching the video in the first place. They know the arguments and information presented in the videos is damning to their illusion.
 
I don't actually care about her sex life. I only care when she uses it for fraud and censorship and for the hypocrisy of it. If she had a 60-man bareback anal gangbang creampie fiesta with unscreened guys and no other means of contraception, I would not give a shit about it*... If she promoted safe sex and got paid for discussing the ramifications of STDs and unwanted pregnancy at the same time then I would care.

The bint gets paid to talk about mean gamers who pick on her, gets paid to do presentations on feminism in gaming, gets gaming journalist to donate "tips" to her and promote donating to her to their large audiences who are deliberately keep in the dark about what is going on, she trashes at least 2 game jams and creates her own that is never updated taking the money for that into her personal account.

Also, if tumbler feminists are going to forgive Zoe's raping and rape supporting, does that mean we can forgive everyone else who has raped?

*Unless she did it with the athleticism of a pro and high fived each guy afterwards.
 
teheviltwin said:
Also, if tumbler feminists are going to forgive Zoe's raping and rape supporting, does that mean we can forgive everyone else who has raped?
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Everything I've seen on tumblr has been feminists pissing on her for her hypocrisy.

The ONLY place I've seen people defending her is actually Twitter, by game devs and journalists and articles written about her in a positive light. What a shocker.
 
spaps said:
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Late to the party, but here Quinn is straight up LYING about the content of those videos. I watched both in their entirety and neither contains any information or pictures of nudes nor any of Zoe's doxx. All it has are the names of the five guys, three of which her ex had already named.
 
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