- Joined
- Apr 4, 2014
What's this? Has there been more reports of Kotaku writers sleeping with game devs since Nathan Grayson that I haven't heard about?
🎭 Dramacow Gamergate / Depression Quest Shitstorm
- Thread starter José Mourinho
- Start date
-
Want to keep track of this thread?
Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
Create account
- Status
What's this? Has there been more reports of Kotaku writers sleeping with game devs since Nathan Grayson that I haven't heard about?
- Joined
- Jul 24, 2013
Patricia Hernandez lived with and possibly dated Anna Anthropy and her partner "Slut" for multiple months. She did this while writing articles about every game Anna Anthropy made, with links on where to get them, where to donate money, and without any disclaimer saying they, in a best case scenario, were in a roommate/renter situation and in real terms were friends living together and probably fucking.
- Joined
- Apr 4, 2014
That's right, I forgot about that one.
Smoked Sausage
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Sep 23, 2014
Cause then it all goes downhill for them if they come out and say that they're biased. Yeah at the very least they will have integrity but the site would fall apart soon after. If you have a stated bias then its incredibly hard to justify being a journalist in this day and age. You'd be a blogger instead of a journalist which commands more respect and gets you access to early releases and invites to conventions and stuff. To a game company why would you invite someone who has an agenda and isn't going to shill your game in a way that makes people want to buy it?
On top of that their readership would tank as people left for sites that claimed not to be biased or represented the opposite view. All that would be left would be a handful of gamers or SJW who don't really play video games, and before you ask wouldn't that be a good way to make money by pandering to a specific crowd, look at what happened to Cracked. Coming out as biased would drive away their meatiest demographics, who as we can see aren't the biggest fan of Kotakus biases, and possibly damage their relationship with game companies which is how they justify their existence and gives them an edge over common bloggers and YouTubers
- Joined
- Jul 5, 2013
I think I can say that I side with Gamergate as I read about Patricia and Anna, however I have to ask a question:
In the beginning Quinn was attacked, trolled and harassed and Gamergate is still associated with the actions that a few have taken against Quinn and her friends which is probably why the mainstream media doesn't have a sympathetic ear towards pro-Gamergaters. 4Chan also has a bad reputation with the mainstream media and have been known to create hoaxes that are "anti-women" for lack of a better term such as "Operation Freebleeding" and the bikini bridge hoax that was aimed to make women ashamed of their bodies. They also were the ones that created the "End Father's Day" Twitter thing to make so-called "feminists" look bad. Not to mention how they attacked people like Jessi Slaughter who was portrayed as an innocent victim by the media. I think it's actions like these is why the mainstream media tends to be more sympathetic towards people like Quinn and not give the other side a chance to speak.
I know that most Gamegaters have moved on past Quinn and are trying to raise awareness about corrupt journalism but they are always going to be associated with the attacks against Quinn and her followers in the beginning and thus will be labeled as "misogynists" by the media and people like Quinn. So the question is, how are those that want to bring awareness to corrupt journalism going to divorce themselves from the harassers against Quinn and Sarkeesian and make themselves heard by the mainstream media?
In the beginning Quinn was attacked, trolled and harassed and Gamergate is still associated with the actions that a few have taken against Quinn and her friends which is probably why the mainstream media doesn't have a sympathetic ear towards pro-Gamergaters. 4Chan also has a bad reputation with the mainstream media and have been known to create hoaxes that are "anti-women" for lack of a better term such as "Operation Freebleeding" and the bikini bridge hoax that was aimed to make women ashamed of their bodies. They also were the ones that created the "End Father's Day" Twitter thing to make so-called "feminists" look bad. Not to mention how they attacked people like Jessi Slaughter who was portrayed as an innocent victim by the media. I think it's actions like these is why the mainstream media tends to be more sympathetic towards people like Quinn and not give the other side a chance to speak.
I know that most Gamegaters have moved on past Quinn and are trying to raise awareness about corrupt journalism but they are always going to be associated with the attacks against Quinn and her followers in the beginning and thus will be labeled as "misogynists" by the media and people like Quinn. So the question is, how are those that want to bring awareness to corrupt journalism going to divorce themselves from the harassers against Quinn and Sarkeesian and make themselves heard by the mainstream media?
- Joined
- Aug 22, 2014
Gamergate was started with the intention of raising awareness about corrupt gaming journalism, from my understanding the Quinn stuff was before that. Also, some of the harassment/trolling was made up/ blown out of proportion by Quinn, as she seems to like playing the victim and getting attention.
- Joined
- May 26, 2013
For me, it helps having a vagina. But, in all honesty, it just requires people being persistent and well mannered. I'm still having a back and forth complaint cycle with the BBC regarding a bias and inaccurate article on gamergate. If you see a poorly researched or bias article on a mainstream news site then correct it. Use their official complaints procedure which will force them to address the issue one way or another because those emails will be sent to multiple members of staff.
- Joined
- Feb 4, 2013
Why should we have to? Why do you want to place us under a double standard? I personally don't give a rat's ass about the harassment. Her own tactics turned around on her is unseemly, but hardly rare on the internet.
Why do we even need to? We're a large enough group to influence advertisers and within the correct demographic. The people who actually have the power to get at these websites don't really care about any internet tardfights. They care that certain demographics are pissed off.
Q
QI 541
Guest
kiwifarms.net
Try complaining to the media in large numbers. Look how well it worked for the SJWs.
- Joined
- Jul 5, 2013
Ok, I see. thanks for your replies, I guess I didn't get into this that deep because I felt I had no say as I am not a gamer. I just found the whole thing confusing and initially had sympathy for Quinn but after reading some of the things in here about this whole situation I have changed my mind about her. Looking at her, she reminds me too much of the SJW I met in irl and I wouldn't want to be friends with Quinn as I would probably be walking on eggshells.
If you are referring to Gamergaters then I can see that they are being vocal and it seems that they are winning. I haven't really seen what the SJWs are doing other than a few mainstream sites sided with them. I do think that it's bad that they (the SJWs) are getting people fired for stuff that they said on the Internet. Also, 4Chan and Reddit's censorship, which is highly uncharacteristic of these sites to even censor in the first place.
And... I'm having one of those days where I am in a fog and really can't communicate well or form thoughts that I want to say.
If you are referring to Gamergaters then I can see that they are being vocal and it seems that they are winning. I haven't really seen what the SJWs are doing other than a few mainstream sites sided with them. I do think that it's bad that they (the SJWs) are getting people fired for stuff that they said on the Internet. Also, 4Chan and Reddit's censorship, which is highly uncharacteristic of these sites to even censor in the first place.
And... I'm having one of those days where I am in a fog and really can't communicate well or form thoughts that I want to say.
- Joined
- Feb 4, 2013
I'm just happy when someone realizes we do have something legitimate to say. This crap extends beyond videogames, but we fight our fight because it is ours and that lends credibility with certain people.
But, honestly, it's been #notyourshield that has given us credibility that we don't have as just manchildren playing vidya or whatever we've been defined as for 40 years.
Every #nys poster is a special snowflake!
- Joined
- Jul 5, 2013
Yeah just saw that on the GG feed. Sounds like this whole thing has corporate hands in it, I know this is going to sound like a conspiracy theory but what if they engineered all of this to create this drama?
- Joined
- Jun 27, 2014
A possibility, but a simple question: Who would gain from that?
- Joined
- Feb 4, 2013
"I do wonder how Rockstar feels about these people."
I wonder what his (not the narrator, obviously...) employer feels about having a producer that actively tries to ruin AAA game companies by begging the media to tell us it is bad.
I wonder what his (not the narrator, obviously...) employer feels about having a producer that actively tries to ruin AAA game companies by begging the media to tell us it is bad.
- Joined
- Jul 5, 2013
Investors? If they get the SJWs on their side, they'd have a whole new audience to pander to. Possibly. I don't know.
- Joined
- Jun 27, 2014
SJWs are a smaller market than everyone-not-SJWs. And by a huge margin.
Like, it even isn't a contest. CoD makes more money in its shittiest releases than a hundred Depression Quests combined.
Last edited:
Andrew Noel Schaefer
Mentally ill goblin who only talks about soda.
Person of Interest
kiwifarms.net
- Joined
- Jan 6, 2014
He is right though! GTAV is a game that is very offensive!
And it is very offensive on purpose! The whole nature of the world in GTAV is to riff on contemporary trends and such. Hell, I remember a in-game advertising campaign to ban nuclear familys (IE, a white 1950s style family with a husband, a wife, a young boy and a young girl) which (at least I think) is a heavy-handed jab at SJWs. Or maybe we should look at the opposat side politically just so we can stay balanced: REPUBLICAN SPACE RANGERS! ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6IP-Pk1zLw )
In short, GTAV pokes fun at everyone and I found it really hard to get offended by anything in it - not just because its only a videogame but also because for every jab at MY political views, theres a jab to the counterpoint, and it always keeps that balance.
(I know this is going to come up but for the record if it ONLY made fun of views that were not my own... that would be sad. People are allowed to have diffrent viewpoints on thins, you know)
And it is very offensive on purpose! The whole nature of the world in GTAV is to riff on contemporary trends and such. Hell, I remember a in-game advertising campaign to ban nuclear familys (IE, a white 1950s style family with a husband, a wife, a young boy and a young girl) which (at least I think) is a heavy-handed jab at SJWs. Or maybe we should look at the opposat side politically just so we can stay balanced: REPUBLICAN SPACE RANGERS! ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6IP-Pk1zLw )
In short, GTAV pokes fun at everyone and I found it really hard to get offended by anything in it - not just because its only a videogame but also because for every jab at MY political views, theres a jab to the counterpoint, and it always keeps that balance.
(I know this is going to come up but for the record if it ONLY made fun of views that were not my own... that would be sad. People are allowed to have diffrent viewpoints on thins, you know)
- Joined
- Aug 22, 2014
The mere thought of a world run by these kinds of fuckwits makes me cringe more than anything else in the world, you know.
- Status