Future of the House

[Pointless Sperg]

They're not supposed to be, but they almost definitely are. Because your government bureaucracy works hard for you. If they are suspended, Chris can apply for back benefits when he gets out. More likely, though, they'll be forgotten or used to initially place him somewhere.

If someone's keeping his payments from being suspended, it's almost definitely Barb, in which case there won't be anything left for Chris when he gets out. She'll have spent it all.

After reviewing your anecdotes I did some searching, and you're right, it can happen. That said, the reporting is entirely based on the facility, and the SSA basically trusts what the facility says, thus the end result varies depending on where the person is incarcerated. Some jails just report after 30 days, while some jails correctly report only for convicted inmates, and some facilities don't report at all.

There are people who have been prosecuted for illegally receiving benefits while they were incarcerated because their particular facility never reported to the SSA, and left it up to the inmate to report.

 

[Gregory House M.D]

My biggest fear is that weens will "ironically" pool money and buy the house.and convert it into a museum

 

[King Kiwi]

Chris gets SSDI (lord knows how he qualified - Chris is perfectly capable of sorting glass) which is not the same as regular social security. For special boys like Chris the total monthly payment could be anywhere between $1000 and $1500 depending on rates and other factors. I'm guessing it's somewhere around $1200 or possibly $1300 with cost of living increases.

Regardless, it will never be enough for Chris.



They're not supposed to be, but they almost definitely are. Because your government bureaucracy works hard for you. If they are suspended, Chris can apply for back benefits when he gets out. More likely, though, they'll be forgotten or used to initially place him somewhere.

If someone's keeping his payments from being suspended, it's almost definitely Barb, in which case there won't be anything left for Chris when he gets out. She'll have spent it all.

I guess Chris really isn't going to just be turned out in the streets.

I mean are they really going to turn a mentally disturbed idiot out onto the streets that molested his mother????

They'll acquire funds from somewhere and place him in some kind of group home, 14 BC not among them.

 

[Ophelia]

I mean are they really going to turn a mentally disturbed idiot out onto the streets that molested his mother????

It happens all the time.

 

[thismanlies]

You forget that Chris was actively punching holes in the walls, pissing and shitting on the floor, and god knows what else to cause damages.

Not to mention the fact he and his mom kept litter boxes on the carpet. There’s gotta be so much shit soaked into the house itself that you’d have to strip it down to the frame just to get the smell out.

 

[Optimus Prime]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IE0LUKI43xcNot to mention the fact he and his mom kept litter boxes on the carpet. There’s gotta be so much shit soaked into the house itself that you’d have to strip it down to the frame just to get the smell out.

I would think a full-on renovation wouldn't be terribly out of the question to improve the ability to sell the house to somebody normal - no way a realtor gets that and doesn't immediately learn who lived in it and the hell that will fall upon any new owners.

 

[A-№1]

I did some searching, and you're right, it can happen. That said, the reporting is entirely based on the facility,

I said it might be the jails fucking up, except everyone always blames someone else, and all the jails seem to do it. It's more likely the reporting system they're using has no provisions for inmates on misdemeanor charges staying months inside without bail. Regardless, if the SSA owes you back-benefits, it's on you to get them. If you don't point out something you're owed, the SSA agent across the desk sure as hell isn't going to mention it.

I don't trust the SSA as far as I could kick them. I was once at an appeal hearing and saw the SSDI rep altering medical reports right there at the desk. She was that brazen about it. The appellant complained, and the judge actually sniffed the still wet white out on the report. Did the SSDI rep get smacked for tampering with legal documents? No. The judge was clearly pissed, but all he did was adjourn until the SSDI rep could produce the original, unaltered medical reports. I understand the SSA reversed their decision and granted benefits the very next day (probably because they didn't want to risk going before the same judge again).

There are people who have been prosecuted for illegally receiving benefits while they were incarcerated because their particular facility never reported to the SSA, and left it up to the inmate to report.

Like I said: perverse.

Dealing with the SSA is painful enough without being imprisoned. And that's assuming the inmate knows (and understands) their obligations. Why is it that when the SSA fucks up, it's a mistake, but when the beneficiary fucks up it's a crime?

I guess Chris really isn't going to just be turned out in the streets.

But give him time and he'll turn himself out onto the streets.

I mean are they really going to turn a mentally disturbed idiot out onto the streets that molested his mother????

Legally they can't even if they really want to. And I bet they really want to.

They'll acquire funds from somewhere

From Chris' own tugboat. That way your payroll taxes pay for it instead of the state of Virginia.

and place him in some kind of group home, 14 BC not among them.

14BLC is not a group home. That said, what if a mental health assistance company purchases 14BLC at the foreclosure auction and turns it into a group home? This is not very likely, but it's not impossible. And then what if Chris gets placed in that particular group home? It would be hell for Chris, but even worse, think of the poor neighbors: "What the hell are you doing back here Chandler? I thought we were quit of you."

There’s gotta be so much shit soaked into the house itself that you’d have to strip it down to the frame just to get the smell out.

Zinsser BIN and RedGard.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

I said it might be the jails fucking up, except everyone always blames someone else, and all the jails seem to do it. It's more likely the reporting system they're using has no provisions for inmates on misdemeanor charges staying months inside without bail. Regardless, if the SSA owes you back-benefits, it's on you to get them. If you don't point out something you're owed, the SSA agent across the desk sure as hell isn't going to mention it.

There's no provision because they're ONLY supposed to report people who are incarcerated post-conviction. There's no obligation to report every inmate to the SSA. Hell, it doesn't seem that there's any obligation to do so at all, they're just strongly encouraged to.

Either the misreporting jail has software that's misconfigured to auto-report everyone or someone at the jail is entering data into the reporting system that they shouldn't be. This isn't happening to everyone in Chris' situation -- there's plenty of disabled people on SSDI who get picked up on misdemeanor crimes and can't make bail, and from what I can read online at least some people are still getting their benefits in jail. So, it has to just be some facilities (though I have absolutely no data on what that percentage could be, it could be that the majority are fucking it up).

Trying to minimize PL request, but were the jails you observed this in in a particular jurisdiction/geographic area? (Not asking which, just if your observations were localized or over far-separated areas)

I don't trust the SSA as far as I could kick them. I was once at an appeal hearing and saw the SSDI rep altering medical reports right there at the desk. She was that brazen about it. The appellant complained, and the judge actually sniffed the still wet white out on the report. Did the SSDI rep get smacked for tampering with legal documents? No. The judge was clearly pissed, but all he did was adjourn until the SSDI rep could produce the original, unaltered medical reports. I understand the SSA reversed their decision and granted benefits the very next day (probably because they didn't want to risk going before the same judge again).

Wow that's bad. I expect apathy and indifference from government workers, but not actual effort to try to fuck me over, even when they're fucking me over. Not even from the IRS.

Pissed judges are always interesting.

Dealing with the SSA is painful enough without being imprisoned. And that's assuming the inmate knows (and understands) their obligations. Why is it that when the SSA fucks up, it's a mistake, but when the beneficiary fucks up it's a crime?

For Chris' sake, I really hope someone is helping him.

But give him time and he'll turn himself out onto the streets.

This. This is the way Chris will fuck himself over if he's too unhappy with his situation.

I still have hope that he won't fuck it up because he won't even know how to run away without a car. There's some interesting tard farms out there in rural Virginia with no lyft/uber. If he were somewhere like that, then Chris would basically be stuck. It's not like he's going to strike out on a journey -- his idea of hiking the Blue Ridge Mountains is walking a few hundred yards around Monticello.

Legally they can't even if they really want to. And I bet they really want to.

Only if they could bus him someplace far, far away. They want him *gone*, and if they just kicked him out on the street, he would be back. Busing your mentally ill only works with the compliant ones because you can't legally force them on the bus. Chris is scared of going anywhere that is not in the Charlottesville area, and he's scared of buses. The furthest he'll willingly travel for anything that's not a convention is Richmond.

From Chris' own tugboat. That way your payroll taxes pay for it instead of the state of Virginia.

That's why I think they'll try to get him on as many federal programs as possible. The better a job they do the less likely they'll have to deal with him and use state/county funds to deal with his bullshit in the future.

14BLC is not a group home. That said, what if a mental health assistance company purchases 14BLC at the foreclosure auction and turns it into a group home? This is not very likely, but it's not impossible. And then what if Chris gets placed in that particular group home? It would be hell for Chris, but even worse, think of the poor neighbors: "What the hell are you doing back here Chandler? I thought we were quit of you."

OK this is fucking fanfiction but it's *good* fanfic so I'll roll with it.

Chris would be happy to be back at the temple, but pissed to share it with slow in the minds. Still, if he got the best room/his old room he might be happy with it and once he accepted that there were other people there he would immediately start converting them to Neo Spiritual Christianity. With the right tards, he might actually gain followers.

Zinsser BIN and RedGard.

Sounds like you've actually had to deal with something like this before.

 

[A-№1]

Either the misreporting jail has software that's misconfigured to auto-report everyone or someone at the jail is entering data into the reporting system that they shouldn't be.

I've long suspected it's whatever lowest bid software the SSA or all the jails all seem to use. Somewhere there's a line like this: if (stay > 30 days) then {report to SSA}

The infuriating thing is it seems to keep happening every single time. If it gets caught, they say, "Oops!" and make out a check, and when it doesn't get caught, well that's money in the bank for them. They have zero incentive to fix their shit.

Trying to minimize PL request, but were the jails you observed this in in a particular jurisdiction/geographic area? (Not asking which, just if your observations were localized or over far-separated areas)

Multiple jails and multiple special individuals in three different states. Mostly in one greater metropolitan area that spans two states. This is part of why I suspect the jails are either all using the same software package, or it's the SSA's computers themselves. The third state was a single instance of the special individual in question fucking up while on an unannounced, unscheduled "road trip" (bail denied because flight risk). The other cases were mostly long term because bail was granted but left unpaid. Fun fact: if the inmate is special enough, and they assess bail, but nobody pays it, they'll keep reducing the bail until they're only asking (begging) for someone (anyone) to sign to accept responsibility for the inmate. The fact that Chris was denied bail from the outset only goes to show just how extra special he is.

Wow that's bad. I expect apathy and indifference from government workers, but not actual effort to try to fuck me over, even when they're fucking me over. Not even from the IRS.

Iknowright? I couldn't believe the SSDI rep was so utterly brazen about it. It wasn't the case I was there for, but when you're waiting around to be called there's nothing else to watch but the cases ahead of you. The worst thing is I don't think anyone was punished. Bureaucrats do this shit simply because there is no incentive not to.

Pissed judges are always interesting.

Unless yours is the next case to go before them. I'm still not sure if the judge was pissed the SSDI rep was breaking the law right there in his court, or pissed that she was stupid enough to get caught.

For Chris' sake, I really hope someone is helping him.

There will be some court appointed advocate / social worker, but their time is limited, and Chris has a talent for burning bridges.

This. This is the way Chris will fuck himself over if he's too unhappy with his situation.

No doubt. But Chris always manages to find something to be unhappy about. Chris is going to end up bouncing from jail to managed housing to the streets to jail and so on for the rest of his life.

I still have hope that he won't fuck it up because he won't even know how to run away without a car.

About the best thing Chris has going for him is that he's not medicated (…yet - at least so far as I know) so he doesn't have any meds to go off. In my experience that's the single most common reason for special individuals losing their housing and ending up back in jail. They choose to stop taking their pills (as is their right - facepalm) and soon enough the furniture starts talking to them. And we all know furniture never gives good advice.

Psychotropics can fuck you up, but not nearly as bad as going off psychotropics.

There's some interesting tard farms out there in rural Virginia with no lyft/uber. If he were somewhere like that, then Chris would basically be stuck.

I think Chris would rapidly find himself on the Uber blacklist in any case.

It's not like he's going to strike out on a journey -- his idea of hiking the Blue Ridge Mountains is walking a few hundred yards around Monticello.

What if the weens offered Chris a PS5 life upgrade for hiking the Appalachian Trail?

Only if they could bus him someplace far, far away.

Isn't Cole in California? California is a common destination for Dr. Greyhound. I would not be surprised if Chris fucks up enough times that they eventually try offloading him on family, and Cole seems the best victim candidate for that.

That's why I think they'll try to get him on as many federal programs as possible. The better a job they do the less likely they'll have to deal with him and use state/county funds to deal with his bullshit in the future.

I suspect that, if at all possible, they're trying to find him placement in some other county. That way when he fucks up again he becomes that county's problem. You may well be right that he'll end up in Richmond, but I think if they find a bed for him in, say, Virginia Beach, they're not going to turn it down.

I wonder if there are any sped houses in Accomac?

OK this is fucking fanfiction but it's *good* fanfic so I'll roll with it.

Chris would be happy to be back at the temple, but pissed to share it with slow in the minds. Still, if he got the best room/his old room he might be happy with it and once he accepted that there were other people there he would immediately start converting them to Neo Spiritual Christianity. With the right tards, he might actually gain followers.

Yeah, it's never going to happen (for one thing 14BLC is a split level), but it would be a whole new adventure if it did. "Next season on MTV's The Real World!…"

Sounds like you've actually had to deal with something like this before.

Let's just say I know for a fact there are far worse people in the world than Chris and Barb. Also as time passes you either gain a lot of experiences, or you pay a lot of money for other people's experience.

 

[Assistant Manajerk]

My biggest fear is that weens will "ironically" pool money and buy the house.and convert it into a museum

Damnit, you figured out my plan!

 

[Lurker69420]

Whoever buys this place after it gets gutted and redone won't even be able to order a pizza to their address, it'll probably sit vacant after Barb dies / goes to a home. We could see a Squatter Saga. I hope tweakers occupy it and tell him a shard is an S-Chu ball or that it's Crystal Chandler's spirit rock. I used to feel bad for him but after the motherfucking I just want to see how far down this shit can go and Meth Chan Sonichu sounds eventful.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Whoever buys this place after it gets gutted and redone won't even be able to order a pizza to their address, it'll probably sit vacant after Barb dies / goes to a home. We could see a Squatter Saga. I hope tweakers occupy it and tell him a shard is an S-Chu ball or that it's Crystal Chandler's spirit rock. I used to feel bad for him but after the motherfucking I just want to see how far down this shit can go and Meth Chan Sonichu sounds eventful.

Most places have a provision for changing the number of a house. They leave gaps in the numbers so that properties can be subdivided, or numbers can be changed for some other reason. In many places it's just a matter of filling out some forms. It's the first house on the street, so even numbers 2-12 are fair game.

Blacklists won't track any number change, so you can start receiving pizza again.

 

[Gfkldsl]

Is barb still in the house? Last I saw, which was still several months ago, some ween had swung by right after chris got thrown in jail and she was still at the house. She had even fetched the van or had someone do it for her and put her own plates on it. If she tries to stay in the house what happens then? The bank still owns it because the mortgage is not paid off and she cant make payments being senile, but I dont think she can afford to be homed anywhere either.

 

[Professor Iris]

Is barb still in the house? Last I saw, which was still several months ago, some ween had swung by right after chris got thrown in jail and she was still at the house. She had even fetched the van or had someone do it for her and put her own plates on it. If she tries to stay in the house what happens then? The bank still owns it because the mortgage is not paid off and she cant make payments being senile, but I dont think she can afford to be homed anywhere either.

It's likely. I don't know how true it is, but some people have claimed that one or more of Barb's relatives are staying with her, or at least helping out. Again, can't confirm that for sure, but it would explain how Chris's hoard got cleared out (because I certainly don't expect Barb in a state of injury to be able to lift anything in there.)

As I've said before, it's likely that Chris's hoard, if it really is gone, was sold off to pay some debts, or at least stay the bank's hand for a little while longer.
When el Casa de Chandler's time is up, though, I fully expect Barb to lock herself in the house and adamantly refuse to leave. I mean, it won't be the first time that she's defied authority.
Where it may get dark is her past habit of threatening to kill herself when she doesn't get her way. She may resort to that, and to be honest, I have no idea if, in her state of despair, that she might actually go through with it this time.

It's likely that if Barb loses the house, she'll stay by one of her relatives. Despite Chris's claims, I don't think they will be turning their backs on her (especially since, you know. She was sexually asssaulted by her own son.)

 

[Guardsman42]

It's likely. I don't know how true it is, but some people have claimed that one or more of Barb's relatives are staying with her, or at least helping out. Again, can't confirm that for sure, but it would explain how Chris's hoard got cleared out (because I certainly don't expect Barb in a state of injury to be able to lift anything in there.)

As I've said before, it's likely that Chris's hoard, if it really is gone, was sold off to pay some debts, or at least stay the bank's hand for a little while longer.
When el Casa de Chandler's time is up, though, I fully expect Barb to lock herself in the house and adamantly refuse to leave. I mean, it won't be the first time that she's defied authority.
Where it may get dark is her past habit of threatening to kill herself when she doesn't get her way. She may resort to that, and to be honest, I have no idea if, in her state of despair, that she might actually go through with it this time.

It's likely that if Barb loses the house, she'll stay by one of her relatives. Despite Chris's claims, I don't think they will be turning their backs on her (especially since, you know. She was sexually asssaulted by her own son.)

I would find it more likely she ends up in a senior living center or some thing if she legitimately has now suffered severe injuries due to the crash. Given she's estranged from her entire family; I'm not sure the ones able to actively care for her actually know her well enough to possibly do so for years.

 

[Gfkldsl]

It's likely. I don't know how true it is, but some people have claimed that one or more of Barb's relatives are staying with her, or at least helping out. Again, can't confirm that for sure, but it would explain how Chris's hoard got cleared out (because I certainly don't expect Barb in a state of injury to be able to lift anything in there.)

As I've said before, it's likely that Chris's hoard, if it really is gone, was sold off to pay some debts, or at least stay the bank's hand for a little while longer.
When el Casa de Chandler's time is up, though, I fully expect Barb to lock herself in the house and adamantly refuse to leave. I mean, it won't be the first time that she's defied authority.
Where it may get dark is her past habit of threatening to kill herself when she doesn't get her way. She may resort to that, and to be honest, I have no idea if, in her state of despair, that she might actually go through with it this time.

It's likely that if Barb loses the house, she'll stay by one of her relatives. Despite Chris's claims, I don't think they will be turning their backs on her (especially since, you know. She was sexually asssaulted by her own son.)

Thats crazy. So chris had his horde sold off? Does he know? I can only imagine the autistic meltdown that retard is gonna have when he does if someone has not told him in a letter already. For all the shit that woman did in her life I still hope she finds some kind of peace by the end of it, if its either staying in the house somehow or with relatives as long as shes away from that hulking trans-tard.

 

[Ophelia]

Is barb still in the house? Last I saw, which was still several months ago, some ween had swung by right after chris got thrown in jail and she was still at the house. She had even fetched the van or had someone do it for her and put her own plates on it. If she tries to stay in the house what happens then? The bank still owns it because the mortgage is not paid off and she cant make payments being senile, but I dont think she can afford to be homed anywhere either.

You’ve missed some shit. She’s since got in a wreck and totaled the van. Her family seems to be helping her, though we mostly have Chris’s word on that (through a letter). We don’t know if Chris’s shit has been thrown out or boxed up or what.

 

[Gfkldsl]

You’ve missed some shit. She’s since got in a wreck and totaled the van. Her family seems to be helping her, though we mostly have Chris’s word on that (through a letter). We don’t know if Chris’s shit has been thrown out or boxed up or what.

Where on earth can I find the info about her totaling the van? I need to see that shit. I hope she sold all of his shit like some people think she did and used the money for the mortgage.

 

[A-№1]

Whoever buys this place after it gets gutted and redone won't even be able to order a pizza to their address,

When a special individual like Chris goes away for good, news travels quickly, especially in semi-Rural communities like Ruckersville.

it'll probably sit vacant after Barb dies / goes to a home.

The bank is not going to let it sit there accumulating property taxes. It will be sold and flipped. With Chris out of the neighborhood, home values at Branchland Court can only go up.

I dont think she can afford to be homed anywhere either.

She can. Once she's placed in a home she will have limited opportunities to waste all her money buying crap at GoodWill. She also won't have a mortgage to keep up after she declares bankruptcy. Her pension etc. will cover it.

As I've said before, it's likely that Chris's hoard, if it really is gone, was sold off to pay some debts,

Whatever they get from it would not be worth the gasoline to drive to the second hand store. It's not worth the gas to drive to the dump. Likely it was all boxed up just to make room to clean the house and the boxes were put in a corner somewhere.

Where it may get dark is her past habit of threatening to kill herself when she doesn't get her way.

People who threaten suicide to manipulate others almost never go through with it. They generally only ever kill themselves by accident (the pills kick in before they can make the phone call to 911 etc.) Real suicides just up and do it.

Where on earth can I find the info about her totaling the van?

How can you be here and not know about the CWCki?

 

[DrNow]

Maybe you should go out and find a male prostitute and off him and spread his bones in your backyard to increase the property value.

Glowies are getting weird lately.