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Merry christmas to all the footy kiwis.

Speaking of a cheerful christmas: The president of Fenerbahce Istanbul got arrested yesterday bc allegedly he got tested positive on cocaine and allegedly is involved in distributing the magical Colombian marching powder.

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OK fellas, here's a quick rundown of the biggest winners and losers of South American footy.

ARGENTINA
National Champions: Platense (Apertura), Estudiantes de La Plata (Clausura), Rosario Central (awarded by AFA for... reasons)
Cup Champion: Independiente Rivadavia
Promoted: Gimnasia de Mendoza and Estudiantes de Río Cuarto
Relegated: San Martín de San Juan and Godoy Cruz

BOLIVIA
National Champion: Always Ready
Promoted: Real Potosí (for winning the Copa Simón Bolívar)
Relegated: Jorge Wilstermann

BRAZIL
National Champion: Flamengo
Cup Champion: Corinthians
Promoted: Coritiba, Athletico Paranaense, Chapecoense, and Remo
Relegated: Ceará, Fortaleza, Juventude, and Sport Recife

CHILE
National Champion: Coquimbo Unido
Cup Champion: Huachipato
Promoted: Universidad de Concepción and Deportes Concepción
Relegated: Unión Española and Deportes Iquique

COLOMBIA
National Champions: Santa Fe (Apertura) and Junior de Barranquilla (Clausura)
Cup Champion: Atlético Nacional
Promoted: Jaguares and Cúcuta Deportivo
Relegated: Unión Magdalena and Envigado

ECUADOR
National Champion: Independiente del Valle
Cup Champion: Universidad Católica
Promoted: Leones del Norte and Guayaquil City
Relegated: Vinotinto, Técnico Universitario, and El Nacional (got three straight sanctions due to unpaid debts)

PARAGUAY
National Champions: Libertad (Apertura) and Cerro Porteño (Clausura)
Cup Champion: General Caballero
Promoted: San Lorenzo and Rubio Ñu
Relegated: Tembetary and General Caballerro

PERU
National Champion: Universitario
Cup Champion: Unión Minas (promoted to the second division)
Promoted: FC Cajamarca and Deportivo Moquegua
Relegated: Ayacucho, Alianza de Huánuco, and Binacional

URUGUAY
National Champion: Nacional
Promoted: Albion, Central Español, and Deportivo Maldonado
Relegated: River Plate, Miramar Misiones, and Plaza Colonia

VENEZUELA
National Champion: Universidad Central de Venezuela
Cup Champion: Universidad Central de Venezuela
Promoted: Trujillanos
Relegated: Yaracuyanos
 
So...India. Football / Soccer / Divegrass / whatever you want to call it.
The country has a rough relationship with the sport. They have loads of passionate fans but their national team is historically dog shit. To try and help the state of the sport, they tried something new in the 2010s: the Indian super league.

They tried the tactic of other asian football leagues - bringing in old, practically washed up players, to give them nice paychecks as they wrap up their careers. The real idea is to get some press on the league worldwide. And for a minute, it did get some eyes on the league. More importantly, some matches drew great crowds. Over the years it eventually became recognized as the sole top tier league in the country.

Sounds good, right? Well...this year, shit hit the fan.
For reference:
2024-25 season started in september 2024, ended on april 2025.
2025-26: has not started yet.

Uh-oh. There's no India Menace in football.
Tweets related to this, for context:
December 26 (when this came to my attention)
City Football Group officially decide to divest stake in Mumbai City FC. The exit from Mumbai City has been made “in light of ongoing uncertainty” around future of the Indian League.
Confirmation from Mumbai City FC
AIFF (All India Football Federation, the governing body of Indian football) proposal, and why it's silly
I've never seen a more stupid committee than AIFF
😂
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This is EXACTLY what FSDL had proposed few months back but interested of 10% they were offering AIFF 14% of the revenue
😂
🙏🏽
Now ghum phir k, they're adopting that old model with a loss. #IndianFootballCrisis
AIFF’s new ISL proposal is similar to what FSDL had offered earlier in some respects, except for broadcast production, operational details and promotion & relegation.
But the reality hasn’t changed. This model will only work if ISL generates at least ₹150–200 cr in central broadcast & sponsorship revenue; anything below that, and it will bust.
To demand that kind of money from broadcasters, a ₹70 cr operational budget (covering broadcast, production, marketing, etc.) looks too low.
In recent ISL seasons, the league spent ~₹70 cr per season on broadcast, production and signal transmission alone. Under this new model, that figure effectively drops to ₹23.8 cr.
On top of that, the model still needs a commercial partner to fund 30% (₹21 cr) of league operations, something AIFF failed to secure in the last tender. Justice Rao and KPMG recommendations also remain unimplemented.
So the question is simple: why would a partner come now?
This model still needs serious fine-tuning before it becomes sellable, though AIFF moving from upfront fees to revenue sharing is at least a step closer to reality.
For all those abroad wondering what's going wrong in #IndianFootball:
- No pro men's league being played right now
- Indian NT (ranked 142nd) are at it's lowest point
- Rampant corruption & age-fraud at youth level
- Lack of professionalism from AIFF
Could it get any worse?
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Yesterday,
Bengaluru FC have informed their players after today’s training session that training is suspended until further notice. Now, there are only a few clubs in the ISL and I-League combined still doing active training. #IndianFootball

They're fucked. For more historical context on why the AIFF are a retarded organization, I had posted this in A&N.
 
As you may not know and/or care, the African Cup of Nations is taking place in Morocco and will begin its knockout stage tomorrow.
Gabon, as usual, got eliminated in the group stage. Its government reacted by suspending the entire team, sacking the coach, and banning their best player ever, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang.
Always makes me laugh when africans complain about people treating AFCON as a distraction or as a joke, when the tournament is always filled with deeply unserious teams like this
 
Keeps the Scottish Prem interesting though.
One of two teams win it every year and have done for like 30 odd years now. Scottish football is always going to have a general limit of growth unless some third team comes and wins a few leagues in a row.

In other news, Wolves have got to be the best worst team I've ever seen. No wins all season andd on track to get less points than Derby yet have reasonably had a shot at every game they've played this season. It just shows how much the league has improved to where Wolves can't scrape a win against some relegation zone team or take a random scalp or two from some team in 14th.
 
As you may not know and/or care, the African Cup of Nations is taking place in Morocco and will begin its knockout stage tomorrow.
Gabon, as usual, got eliminated in the group stage. Its government reacted by suspending the entire team, sacking the coach, and banning their best player ever, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang.
Never understood why people hated AfCon. Its a bunch of clowns playing games that completely embarrass the continent and everyone associated with it. Its great
Celtic appear to be imploding. Tomorrow’s Old Firm game will be an interesting watch if Rangers win. Nancy could be out in his ear almost as quickly as he arrived.

Keeps the Scottish Prem interesting though. Hearts being top is a nice change.
A tie in the Old Firm would be amazing
 
Always makes me laugh when africans complain about people treating AFCON as a distraction or as a joke, when the tournament is always filled with deeply unserious teams like this

Cameroon had not one but two different squads nominated for the cup.

Their coach got sacked before the cup started but he didn't accept his sacking. His reasoning: Only the minister of sports can fire him but not the federation. So he nominated his own squad. In the end the squad nominated by the federation showed up. The ex-coach (and the players he had nominated) did'nt get send plane tickets and didn't get officially registered so they couldn't go.

Samuel Eto'o (this Samuel Eto'o who once played for Barcelona and Inter Milan) is the head of the federation and there are some stories about him being one corrupt crock of the highest tier, publicly insulting, threatening and physically attacking players, staff and the ex-coach. Fun side story: Allegedly Eto'o didnt nominate one guy so he wouldn't beat Eto'o as top scorer for the national team.
 
Cameroon had not one but two different squads nominated for the cup.

Their coach got sacked before the cup started but he didn't accept his sacking. His reasoning: Only the minister of sports can fire him but not the federation. So he nominated his own squad. In the end the squad nominated by the federation showed up. The ex-coach (and the players he had nominated) did'nt get send plane tickets and didn't get officially registered so they couldn't go.

Samuel Eto'o (this Samuel Eto'o who once played for Barcelona and Inter Milan) is the head of the federation and there are some stories about him being one corrupt crock of the highest tier, publicly insulting, threatening and physically attacking players, staff and the ex-coach. Fun side story: Allegedly Eto'o didnt nominate one guy so he wouldn't beat Eto'o as top scorer for the national team.
Tremendous stuff

My favourite afcon shenanigans are the fans usually. Stuff like witch doctors in the stands trying to curse players. I honestly rate the dedication to their teams

If only european teams would get guys dressed like Saruman trying to curse Mbappe or something
 
One of two teams win it every year and have done for like 30 odd years now. Scottish football is always going to have a general limit of growth unless some third team comes and wins a few leagues in a row.
Now that you mention it, I’m surprised (but not surprised) no foreign investment has tried to come into Scotland to overtake Celtic or the Ibrox club. It would be much cheaper to do that than it is to try and move up the English pyramid. It would spice things up from the usual boring norm of Celtic or Ibrox winning the SPL.
 
Now that you mention it, I’m surprised (but not surprised) no foreign investment has tried to come into Scotland to overtake Celtic or the Ibrox club. It would be much cheaper to do that than it is to try and move up the English pyramid. It would spice things up from the usual boring norm of Celtic or Ibrox winning the SPL.
I'm guessing they don't do it for the obvious reason of both Celtic and Rangers have some of the most toxic fans in the whole of Europe and if anyone got in the way of their free league title some fans in Aberdeen would be stabbed or something.

That and Scotland is fucking hilariously populated, like literally outside of Glasgow and Edinbrough you've got cities the size of large towns in England. Aberdeen has only 200k people living there and Dundee has just over 100k. No club is going to be able to compete against Celtic or Rangers in a 20k stadium.

Aberdeen is my go to club in Football Manager mind, it's always fun to drive a hammer blow into the Old Firm and have one completely eat shit.
 
3-4 to the Hammers, then? :lit:
THEY WON!!! If Leeds, Newcastle, and Spurs lose tomorrow then the only team in the bottom 8 who will have picked up points this weekend will have been Wolves
Now that you mention it, I’m surprised (but not surprised) no foreign investment has tried to come into Scotland to overtake Celtic or the Ibrox club. It would be much cheaper to do that than it is to try and move up the English pyramid. It would spice things up from the usual boring norm of Celtic or Ibrox winning the SPL.
The ownership group of the 49ers now owns a part of Rangers. Calvin Ford (Henry Ford money) owns Livingston. Also American owners own Dundee, Dundee United, Hibernian, and St. Johnstone.
 
THEY WON!!! If Leeds, Newcastle, and Spurs lose tomorrow then the only team in the bottom 8 who will have picked up points this weekend will have been Wolves

The ownership group of the 49ers now owns a part of Rangers. Calvin Ford (Henry Ford money) owns Livingston. Also American owners own Dundee, Dundee United, Hibernian, and St. Johnstone.
The Scottish League could and should become like Ligue 1, a stock market for selling players to better leagues where the smaller teams invest in players rather than patching up their team with older players. There's similarities with having one/two dominant teams so the others had to think differently. They probably needs to do that long term to have a chance to survive at least financially because previously only really Celtic have been able to recruit good young players.

Annoying side note is the requirements for Scottish/UK Visas really hampers the Ligue 1 mid table team model, if you ever played football manager you know what I mean, it's so brutal trying to find players for cheap that are good enough to be eligible for visas, but also have a good potential.
Something has to change though, every Scottish team is getting embarrassed in Europe and it shows how far the quality of the league has fallen.
 
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