🦊 Furry Furry Convention Drama - Because you can't have a couple thousand dog fucking enthusiasts under the same roof without shit hitting the fan

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I love how he censors "faggot" for Twitter because he knows it could get him banned but is oblivious as to why it's not appropriate for a con lol
Don't wear swastikas and sieg heil through the hallways because it's not appropriate for our convention.
Don't wear skimpy clothing that doesn't cover said body parts in public during the day because children don't need to see your genitals.
Hi it's a family friendly convention, please don't have the word Faggot loudly blasted on your back.

In a normal sane world people would understand that you can't have these things out at conventions as it would cause a scene. But these days furries act like fascists are coming to murder them from the woodworks.

So to recap, DenFur is "the worst con ever" because

They will ban you for trying to sell shit without a permit, thus evading taxes, which the convention would be liable for, then running off when confronted after already being warned two times to cut it out. Also the guy you tried to sell it for is a grifter.

They won't allow you to advertise your non-con-(hah!)-sanctioned music show. Except you do it anyway and then spiral into a public breakdown because the weather gods were mean.

Hotel staff was rude to you for smoking on the venue which isn't allowed. Also you retaliate by cooking bacon on a gas cooker, on the floor next to a main entrance.

Con staff asks you to take off your edgy cool anarchy jacket because it says "Better be a faggot than a fascist" on the back when everyone know the mere IDEA of gay slurs would get them dogpiled on Twitter.

I knew that most big furcons have a bunch of orgy-surfing potheads attending but holy FUCK, when did it turn into such a Karen-fest?
If this were any other con and fandom the attendees would be blamed for this shit and the hotel wouldn't be disrespected like they are now.

It's strange to see all these cons slowly cracking down on stuff that ruin there public image and parties. I wonder how BLFC and MFF will be this year. The two biggest party cons.

I also think that's why a lot of the smaller cons have been growing in popularity as they tend to have way more leeway and hotels tend not to care as much because there aren't 700+ ruing shit
From what I've heard the crackdown on parties has been coming from the fact you have so many overdoses at hotels now.
 
People love to complain about their posters being taken down and shit, but I would be willing to bet that they used something damaging to hang them up in the first place. Hotels and convention centers don't want their walls to be damaged, their paint to be stripped needlessly. But furries think they're being specifically targeted when their posters, hung with gaffers tape, are taken down during an event.
 
Just wish hotels would finally nut up and stand up to these furcons by telling them to go pound sand and find some other place to host their degen gatherings. Yeah, business money etcetera, but surely by now they must be realizing furcons are far more trouble to host than they're worth, right?
They're wising up to furry conventions. Hotels and dedicated convention venues talk to each other regularly and it's a small enough industry that word gets around pretty fast about the kinds of cons that are best avoided no matter the financial temptation. Furcons are high on the list.

If you look back, practically every furcon in the past two decades has openly complained about how hard it is to find a venue willing to host them. Venues are increasingly becoming unwilling to host furcons at all anymore, even when a particular con has gone off without incident and the venue has a good history and relationship with its organizers. Even among those that are still willing to host, it doesn't take much to convince or pressure a venue to back out (part of the delight of furry con drama is the tendency for the drama queens to sabotage cons by sending "compromising" material about a con or its management to the venue).

The fact that many con-goers love to burn bridges on behalf of the cons doesn't help matters.
 
Is there any other group that is more entitled, immature, whiny, and spoiled than furfaggots? Possibly trannies, but there's also a lot of overlap there. How many times have the more level-headed, mature members of the furfag community come out to say to the ones who can't behave themselves "You're ruining this for everyone. Your behavior is making the whole community look bad. The soiled diapers on cars, stuffing towels into hot tub pumps, the drug freak-outs, damaging hotel property...now no one will host our conventions. Knock this shit off!" and the trouble makers in question just call them fascists. You get what you fucking deserve.
 
How many times have the more level-headed, mature members of the furfag community come out to say to the ones who can't behave themselves "You're ruining this for everyone. Your behavior is making the whole community look bad. The soiled diapers on cars, stuffing towels into hot tub pumps, the drug freak-outs, damaging hotel property...now no one will host our conventions. Knock this shit off!"
Pretty much the Burned Furs which ended in 2001 and it's been a permanent shitshow of perversion, degeneracy and cringe since then, with no dissent allowed.
 
Is there any other group that is more entitled, immature, whiny, and spoiled than furfaggots? Possibly trannies, but there's also a lot of overlap there. How many times have the more level-headed, mature members of the furfag community come out to say to the ones who can't behave themselves "You're ruining this for everyone. Your behavior is making the whole community look bad. The soiled diapers on cars, stuffing towels into hot tub pumps, the drug freak-outs, damaging hotel property...now no one will host our conventions. Knock this shit off!" and the trouble makers in question just call them fascists. You get what you fucking deserve.
Pretty much the Burned Furs which ended in 2001 and it's been a permanent shitshow of perversion, degeneracy and cringe since then, with no dissent allowed.
The more level-headed ones still exist. They've largely just retreated into obscurity and/or organizing small-scale get-togethers in their own homes and properties. Plus there's a very large number of people who appreciate the concept of anthropomorphics as an aesthetic/thematic/performance device but don't identify with the fandom proper.
 
Apparently, some furry used the hotel's valet service, and their car was misplaced. Said furry had a meltdown and was banned from the hotel.
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4 strokes this year, he shouldn't be driving and his driver's license revoked.
 
The more level-headed ones still exist. They've largely just retreated into obscurity and/or organizing small-scale get-togethers in their own homes and properties. Plus there's a very large number of people who appreciate the concept of anthropomorphics as an aesthetic/thematic/performance device but don't identify with the fandom proper.
Furcons have slowly been falling out of favor and becoming more of networking events for smaller gatherings. The ones where bars are rented out or on people massive properties. Those are the ones that have been coming up more and you never hear about them because its selective and tend to be kick people out super quickly once they fall out of line. Tend to much more fun honestly.

I see in the next few years furcons just becoming smaller because con staff will never ban diaper fags and the like so it will only get worse and probaly a lot of splinter cons will form around it.
 
They're wising up to furry conventions. Hotels and dedicated convention venues talk to each other regularly and it's a small enough industry that word gets around pretty fast about the kinds of cons that are best avoided no matter the financial temptation. Furcons are high on the list.

If you look back, practically every furcon in the past two decades has openly complained about how hard it is to find a venue willing to host them. Venues are increasingly becoming unwilling to host furcons at all anymore, even when a particular con has gone off without incident and the venue has a good history and relationship with its organizers. Even among those that are still willing to host, it doesn't take much to convince or pressure a venue to back out (part of the delight of furry con drama is the tendency for the drama queens to sabotage cons by sending "compromising" material about a con or its management to the venue).

The fact that many con-goers love to burn bridges on behalf of the cons doesn't help matters.
Good points. Might not be unreasonable to state that Rainfurrest 2016 was the beginning of the end in a way: with how publicized that (literal) shitshow was, it’s not too far to think hotel corporate HQs took notice after that.

And frankly, it’s a longtime coming. Any sort of empathy I might’ve had for furries has been obliterated after the Zoosadist leaks, politics, and so much more, because they’re not willing -or wanting- to police truly bad actors. And they wonder why opinion of furries has only worsened in recent years…
 
The more level-headed ones still exist. They've largely just retreated into obscurity and/or organizing small-scale get-togethers in their own homes and properties. Plus there's a very large number of people who appreciate the concept of anthropomorphics as an aesthetic/thematic/performance device but don't identify with the fandom proper.
On a larger scale, the problem with the furry fandom is that the "lifestylers" won. Way back in the late 90s and early 2000s, when the Burned Furs were still around, there was still this big debate between the people who claimed to be in it because they liked cartoon animals and anthropomorphic themes but understood they still had a life outside of that, and those who claimed to have some deeper connection to their "animal selves" and wished to be "furry" 24/7, including potentially humping their own pets.

Not to say the "it's all about the art" camp didn't have their share of turbo-degenerates. There are no saints in this story. But they were pushing for a more moderate version of the furry fandom. A hobby you engaged and disengaged with at-will rather than a subculture you belonged to at all times. Bootlegged cartoon viewing parties as opposed to pawprint tattoos. And the "hobbyists" lost that fight, at least in terms of public image. With "furry" becoming an insular subculture, its most extreme elements did what they always do: they spiraled into further and further self-indulgence. And once social media centralized debate and the general zeitgeist started shifting towards more and more tolerance towards extreme sexual behaviors, these people were well-positioned to leap to the forefront and take control of the furry Overton window.
 
This is why gatekeeping is not only good and healthy, it's vital. Otherwise the freaks and degenerates take over the group and ruin it for everyone else. Lots and lots of examples of this these days.
 
It's been interesting seeing the changes happen in the fandom. It's always had it's drama and perverts, but I noticed after 2010 it really started to ramp up.

Things went full retard after 2016. I don't know what it was about Trump, but furries fully embraced troons and socialism, and became very open and loud about their sexual degeneracy. It's seemed to have happened with several "nerdy" subcultures.

It's a weird cultural shift that I can't really wrap my mind around, but I hate it.
 
It's been interesting seeing the changes happen in the fandom. It's always had it's drama and perverts, but I noticed after 2010 it really started to ramp up.

Things went full retard after 2016. I don't know what it was about Trump, but furries fully embraced troons and socialism, and became very open and loud about their sexual degeneracy. It's seemed to have happened with several "nerdy" subcultures.

It's a weird cultural shift that I can't really wrap my mind around, but I hate it.

There is a "gray muzzle" saying that convention furries stay the same age. (Gray muzzles being the older furries from the 70s to the 90's) It has held true, from what I can see, which leads me to be not too surprised by how openly autistic the fandom has become since that is the culture. Plus, furries usually attract outsiders of society hence the in your face punk jacket unironically espousing authoritarian phrases, the zoophiles, and pedophiles, etc. which tend to lean hard if not fuck you harder left.
 
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