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You knew this was coming. FWA has changed policy to now require masks in con spaces.


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Minor side note, as of the time of this post, their COVID policy page still hasn't been updated and states that masks are not required. So they've got two contradictory policies on different pages.

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If other people not wearing masks bothers you that much, how do you get by day to day?

This has been mentioned already, but the original no-mask policy was not a "sudden change." FWA said they would implement whatever the CDC guidelines were as of April 28. Given the low spread in the con's area on the 28th, CDC guidelines are that masks are not required. Perfectly predictable. And yet a common theme in the Twitter outrage is the inaccurate assertion that FWA had a mask mandate which was lifted at the last minute.
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Shaka Brah said:
I guess the science isn't settled anymore, and the CDC is untrustworthy.
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Pinball 2000 said:
I just want to point out that Fur the More a couple months ago still had people getting covid, even after they pissed off most of the attendees by installing a bunch of draconian policies at the literal last possible second. And this isn't even taking into account that most conventions are held in buildings accessible to the public and they may be interacting with non-furries who may or may not be vaccinated.

If people are genuinely concerned with getting sick, then they should stay home, it's as simple as that.
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I remember at the beginning of COVID people were suggesting that conventions go the route of NeosVR/VRChat/Second Life, I do wish that this would have stayed because we wouldn't have to hear about the endless cases of people tossing diapers in hotel spaces. Granted, I am fully aware that the bad side of this is that the three games can be very unoptimized and crashing on even the best rigs when tens/hundreds of furries meet up in one space.
 
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Of course. The CDC's assertion that the vaccines are "safe and effective" must be true, while their CAPITALIST OVERLORDS are FORCING them to drop mask mandates in the interest of BIG BUSINESS. Right?

Furry Fiesta tried to enforce a mask mandate in public spaces, and it failed. My guess is the public areas of FWA will have no more than 50% masked at any time. I wonder how these "anxious" people will fare riding on elevators with unmasked people? Of course, few of them will wear a mask in room parties. Would love to hear how many masks there are at the cum party, probably 10% of people there at best.
 
JFKdestroyer said:
Of course. The CDC's assertion that the vaccines are "safe and effective" must be true, while their CAPITALIST OVERLORDS are FORCING them to drop mask mandates in the interest of BIG BUSINESS. Right?

Furry Fiesta tried to enforce a mask mandate in public spaces, and it failed. My guess is the public areas of FWA will have no more than 50% masked at any time. I wonder how these "anxious" people will fare riding on elevators with unmasked people? Of course, few of them will wear a mask in room parties. Would love to hear how many masks there are at the cum party, probably 10% of people there at best.
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The largest number of illnesses contracted at furry cons are VD. I wonder if they'll wear masks on their cocks this year.
 
Realhat said:
You knew this was coming. FWA has changed policy to now require masks in con spaces.


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Minor side note, as of the time of this post, their COVID policy page still hasn't been updated and states that masks are not required. So they've got two contradictory policies on different pages.

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If other people not wearing masks bothers you that much, how do you get by day to day?

This has been mentioned already, but the original no-mask policy was not a "sudden change." FWA said they would implement whatever the CDC guidelines were as of April 28. Given the low spread in the con's area on the 28th, CDC guidelines are that masks are not required. Perfectly predictable. And yet a common theme in the Twitter outrage is the inaccurate assertion that FWA had a mask mandate which was lifted at the last minute.
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Here's another spicy take from a bit of a personal furry cow of mine: Donryu. Popufur artist, commie/ANTIFA leftist, overall narcissistic douchenozzle.

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The Big O said:
Here's another spicy take from a bit of a personal furry cow of mine: Donryu. Popufur artist, commie/ANTIFA leftist, overall narcissistic douchenozzle.

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If that is Donryu's nasty fetish, I wouldn't put it past him to enjoy drinking Kopi luwak.
 
Look, I think wearing masks at big events isn't a terrible idea (regardless of covid, god knows how many times I've caught a cold from conventions), but if a con decides to not make it required, nobody is preventing these mask-jihadists from wearing one anyway. It's like these fucks are so stuck in their black and white thinking that they think "masks are not required" means "masks are forbidden".

I also have yet to see anyone get accosted for (not) wearing a mask anywhere, or anyone get aggressive from being told they had to wear one (when it was still mandated in shops). Annoyed, maybe, but not aggressive. I sometimes wonder what kind of fantasy world these basement dwellers live in, but then I remember they're the worst furries, and that makes me stop wondering.
 
ExplosiveTeddybear said:
Look, I think wearing masks at big events isn't a terrible idea (regardless of covid, god knows how many times I've caught a cold from conventions), but if a con decides to not make it required, nobody is preventing these mask-jihadists from wearing one anyway. It's like these fucks are so stuck in their black and white thinking that they think "masks are not required" means "masks are forbidden".

I also have yet to see anyone get accosted for (not) wearing a mask anywhere, or anyone get aggressive from being told they had to wear one (when it was still mandated in shops). Annoyed, maybe, but not aggressive. I sometimes wonder what kind of fantasy world these basement dwellers live in, but then I remember they're the worst furries, and that makes me stop wondering.
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I've seen a couple of fistfights over being asked to mask, and have had old dudes get uppity at me trying to start shit because I was wearing one; all of these interactions happened at walmart, where it seems most retail furries seem to work. So my theory is that they're basing their expectations on the thunderdome they spend their working lives in.
 
raisinlove said:
Have there been instances of furfags accosting hotel patrons for not wearing fraudchi masks even though they’re obviously normal people not involved with this shit
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There were rumors that some non-furry hotel guests were told by con staff at Furthe'More to wear masks. Wouldn't put it past that con's staff though, the higher ups are the kind of furries who would mandate masks AND boosters to attend an event.
 
Honestly, the mask and vaccinations make the most sense for cons, and you don't even need to mandate it to convince people. Just point out the realities of disease spreading. You're traveling to a place where you're interacting with other people who are traveling, sharing various plagues in a confined space, then going home. Even 20 years from now good con practice would be "flu shot, sanitizer, mask" just to mitigate the severity of con crud. Heck, 20 years ago that'd still would've been a good idea. I get con crud from gaming events, and I'm often there as part of the marketing machine, standing in place, talking to interesting parties, behind a counter, not moving around too close to others most of the time. I can't imagine how much more disgusting furry con crud would be since you're getting physical with degenerates.
 
Going to cons is a calculated risk, same as it ever was. It makes sense for personal protection, sure. I don't mind at all if wearing a mask is a recommendation, but enforcing it is cringe. In a con space where attendee hygiene is questionable at best, it's really not gonna help much. If you're immunocompromised (the driving excuse for this bullshit) any major gathering is going to be deadly for you.

The vaccine has proven to have negligible, if any, effect on transmission, so why should that matter at all? And why stop there? Don't touch me until you give me your complete medical records, I must absolutely make sure you were given your measles vax as a baby. Meningitis and rotavirus, too. Better safe than sorry, right?
 
D.Va said:
Going to cons is a calculated risk, same as it ever was. It makes sense for personal protection, sure. I don't mind at all if wearing a mask is a recommendation, but enforcing it is cringe. In a con space where attendee hygiene is questionable at best, it's really not gonna help much. If you're immunocompromised (the driving excuse for this bullshit) any major gathering is going to be deadly for you.

The vaccine has proven to have negligible, if any, effect on transmission, so why should that matter at all? And why stop there? Don't touch me until you give me your complete medical records, I must absolutely make sure you were given your measles vax as a baby. Meningitis and rotavirus, too. Better safe than sorry, right?
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Oh yeah, mandating it is bullshit at this point. But a sensible person wouldn't need a mandate if they cared. I'm just saying you only need to point out cons are disease spreading cesspools by default to those who care. If my job didn't involve seeing a dozen a year, I wouldn't want to be near them. So many people travelling, carrying things my immune system isn't used to in such a small place is a risk at the best of time to miss extra work and not make rent. Covid at least gives me an excuse to take extra protections so I only have six plagues at once rather than 30. Then again, my mindset is very different than the idiots going to these cons willingly, for me it is a work thing and not one I enjoy.
 
Depending on how people-dense the convention will be, I feel people who are suiting or wearing some kind of suit are going to be sweating a lot more with a mask I mean they have suits with fans and all that stuff, but that might be far and few between) and whatever a.c the hotel has isn't going to do much with when one is wearing a few good inches of fabric built a top styrofoam (probably just the head for the most part) which is a pretty good insulator of heat, t's also the begining of May in Georgia, it's going to be in the 80's and it's going to be humid. And if you're hauling ass like that for several hours your skin is going to be a paradise for microbes and then with a face covering around your mouth that just makes it harder to breathe overtime and you just breathe in mostly stagnant air which can make it worse. Then all those masks which will probably be soaked in sweat and spit are going to end up god knows where besides the trash.

This is a really autistic post, but these are things people need to consider than just "mask stop COVID, mask good"
 
The Eighth Tsar said:
Depending on how people-dense the convention will be, I feel people who are suiting or wearing some kind of suit are going to be sweating a lot more with a mask I mean they have suits with fans and all that stuff, but that might be far and few between) and whatever a.c the hotel has isn't going to do much with when one is wearing a few good inches of fabric built a top styrofoam (probably just the head for the most part) which is a pretty good insulator of heat, t's also the begining of May in Georgia, it's going to be in the 80's and it's going to be humid. And if you're hauling ass like that for several hours your skin is going to be a paradise for microbes and then with a face covering around your mouth that just makes it harder to breathe overtime and you just breathe in mostly stagnant air which can make it worse. Then all those masks which will probably be soaked in sweat and spit are going to end up god knows where besides the trash.

This is a really autistic post, but these are things people need to consider than just "mask stop COVID, mask good"
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Mask under fursuit head is peak Covid-tism. It's a failure of considering purpose. Though now out of morbid curiousity, I want to know how severe con crud is for fursuits vs non-fursuiters. You ain't leaving a con healthy, but you can leave it less sick than the next guy.
 
I doubt suiting makes much of a difference at all in terms of con crud/COVID. Most suiters will at some point take the suit off and attend a party or something. Even just the headless lounge has other people in it. I don't know of any suiters that spend 100% of time outside their room in-suit, and even if they did, just about everyone has roommates at cons.

The problem with masks at furry conventions is the same. A huge amount of the convention is going to eventually end up at a room party with no masks and lots of people, completely negating the point anyway.
 
sex haver said:
I doubt suiting makes much of a difference at all in terms of con crud/COVID. Most suiters will at some point take the suit off and attend a party or something. Even just the headless lounge has other people in it. I don't know of any suiters that spend 100% of time outside their room in-suit, and even if they did, just about everyone has roommates at cons.

The problem with masks at furry conventions is the same. A huge amount of the convention is going to eventually end up at a room party with no masks and lots of people, completely negating the point anyway.
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Yeah, room parties are the thing that break everything when it comes to any research on con related disease spreading. You know, other than super AIDs. I'm pretty sure the first case of a sentient version of HIV will come from a furry, and I have a sneaking suspicion fursuiters are more active with the degenerate sex shit than non-fursuiters.
 
AngryTreeRat said:
Oh yeah, mandating it is bullshit at this point. But a sensible person wouldn't need a mandate if they cared. I'm just saying you only need to point out cons are disease spreading cesspools by default to those who care. If my job didn't involve seeing a dozen a year, I wouldn't want to be near them. So many people travelling, carrying things my immune system isn't used to in such a small place is a risk at the best of time to miss extra work and not make rent. Covid at least gives me an excuse to take extra protections so I only have six plagues at once rather than 30. Then again, my mindset is very different than the idiots going to these cons willingly, for me it is a work thing and not one I enjoy.
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I imagine it helps that you can dab some peppermint oil on the inside, to disperse the nerd miasmas
 
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