Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

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Moogle said:
He's got some nerve to judge other people based on how they look, especially the "fat" ones. He seems rather insecure when it comes to that when you think about it.
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Fred's always struck me as an obese dude for at least a year now, so it wouldn't surprise me if that was the case at all.
 
FedoraManManMan said:
So sadly, I went through the Skype convos I had with fred. Only to find out he deleted some messages we shared.

The message in question involved Leanna and her speculated, new boyfriend.

James here can vouch for me on this one but I'll share my story.


Fred Fuchs decided it'd be a good idea to find who leanna was staying with and where she went. He wasn't fully convinced she moved back to mom's (his original theory).

He sent me 4 Facebook pages and 1 linkedin.

The first was Leanna herself, somehow someway he was a friend of hers on there (did not ask how) and could see her unprivated account.

In it she was in a new relationship with a 24 year old guy in seattle who owned a cat.

The 2nd was the "Guy", Fred wanted to have someone (me) contact him to convince leanna to Rat out phil on my stream and then bring him in midway to make it a Fred interview with Leanna to give her "the real truth".

The 3rd was Leanna's brother, mr. Wedding, who seed to have some hot opinions on phil.

Last was a supposed co-workers of leanna's but He could not confirm this. Just knew she took recent FB photos of them together.



On Freds request, I had reluctantly reached out to both leanna and the Brother but refused to contact the co-worker and the "Guy" for Fred because I felt that was way too inappropriate, I barely was comfortable with contacting her or her brother on regard to this.


Im not sure if any other recent Ex-SoK recall this stuff either. Maybe @Moogle or @RADRAD
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I do remember that, I didn't really care that much. If anything I thought it was shitty that he was doing that, like who cares who she's dating now? Fred is so obsessed that he's gotta keep track of how much Phil pays for food a restaurant and who Leanna talks to. I remember at one point he was trying to find where Leanna was working at. He's really fucking creepy, I don't know why I even put up with this behavior for so long.
 
Moogle said:
He used to make memes with a picture I posted in our skype group and I told him to not post those publicly and to respect my privacy. I have no problems with people knowing what I look like, but Fred wanted to make a mockery out of people and it was discomforting for some people in the group. It's no wonder he never wanted to show his face, he probably didn't want us making fun of him.

He's got some nerve to judge other people based on how they look, especially the "fat" ones. He seems rather insecure when it comes to that when you think about it.
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It takes a real shithead to mock people on their appearance after they display the level of comfort and courage necessary to actually show what they look like, all whilst going out of your way to hide your own identity and appearance. Not that this surprises me, but wow. Severe lack of balls and common courtesy on Fred's part, there. Especially disgusting since you were supposed to be his cohort and an acquaintance.

And I second the opinion that it would make sense if Fred himself was unattractive, or overweight. It's probably the case, given how quick he was to lambaste Vidar for all the creepy shit he did, despite being involved in equally scummy acts of the same nature. Hypocrisy 101, through and through.
 
Jmboote said:
It takes a real shithead to mock people on their appearance after they display the level of comfort and courage necessary to actually show what they look like, all whilst going out of your way to hide your own identity and appearance. Not that this surprises me, but wow. Severe lack of balls and common courtesy on Fred's part, there. Especially disgusting since you were supposed to be his cohort and an acquaintance.

And I second the opinion that it would make sense if Fred himself was unattractive, or overweight. It's probably the case, given how quick he was to lambaste Vidar for all the creepy shit he did, despite being involved in equally scummy acts of the same nature. Hypocrisy 101, through and through.
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Let's be honest though Vidar looks like Tobin Bell's lost son, and Fred is a faceless "fuch" (pardon my pun). Fred was always ridiculing me for having long hair and was talking about how i'd get hair in my food all the time, despite always putting my hair in a ponytail inside of hair net for work. I cleaned up though once I started taking the job a lot more seriously. He also likes to claim he's a food critic all the time, yet all i've ever heard him do is order take out and fast food all the time, which is ironic considering he makes fun of someone else we know and love for that.

Dude has no shame when he obnoxiously chews into the microphone, I can't tell you how many times that shit annoyed me.
 
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FedoraManManMan said:
So sadly, I went through the Skype convos I had with fred. Only to find out he deleted some messages we shared.

The message in question involved Leanna and her speculated, new boyfriend.

James here can vouch for me on this one but I'll share my story.


Fred Fuchs decided it'd be a good idea to find who leanna was staying with and where she went. He wasn't fully convinced she moved back to mom's (his original theory).

He sent me 4 Facebook pages and 1 linkedin.

The first was Leanna herself, somehow someway he was a friend of hers on there (did not ask how) and could see her unprivated account.

In it she was in a new relationship with a 24 year old guy in seattle who owned a cat.

The 2nd was the "Guy", Fred wanted to have someone (me) contact him to convince leanna to Rat out phil on my stream and then bring him in midway to make it a Fred interview with Leanna to give her "the real truth".

The 3rd was Leanna's brother, mr. Wedding, who seed to have some hot opinions on phil.

Last was a supposed co-workers of leanna's but He could not confirm this. Just knew she took recent FB photos of them together.



On Freds request, I had reluctantly reached out to both leanna and the Brother but refused to contact the co-worker and the "Guy" for Fred because I felt that was way too inappropriate, I barely was comfortable with contacting her or her brother on regard to this.


Im not sure if any other recent Ex-SoK recall this stuff either. Maybe @Moogle or @RADRAD
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I can confirm he went to great lengths to try and find the dude he believed Leanna was dating. He even went as far as analyzing a video where she said something in the line of "i'm meeting him today" because he believed Leanna was cucking DSP.
 
I personally don't feel any shame at all in how I look, but there was always an air of people feeling self-conscious since mocking people for how they look was so prevalent there. Honestly though if some of us had the courage to show our true selves off in that group then Fred should have had the decency to do the same. Then again why would he? Since if he didn't do that it would mean he could slip away at any time.
 
KefKaz said:
I can confirm he went to great lengths to try and find the dude he believed Leanna was dating. He even went as far as analyzing a video where she said something in the line of "i'm meeting him today" because he believed Leanna was cucking DSP.
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I remember that video. The one from the day she left where Phil is sitting on the couch, takes his headphones off and is talking to her off camera. She is saying she's going to meet somebody, and all Phil seeks confirmation about is if he is getting his dinner later.
 
reawrestling said:
extremely creepy to be doing that kind of stuff, fred must be a stalker, extremely creepy to go down that path and claim to be normal. if you knew them then ok but he didn't. he is one weird idoit.
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He must of hounded those Laveria staff to appear on the podcast. It's pretty weird of them to appear on a podcast all of a sudden when the SoK were shitting on them beforehand.

He probably wears a tin foil hat.
 
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SirJamesDTech said:
I remember that video. The one from the day she left where Phil is sitting on the couch, takes his headphones off and is talking to her off camera. She is saying she's going to meet somebody, and all Phil seeks confirmation about is if he is getting his dinner later.
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Yeah, the only real thing of note in the video (that doesn't require any conspiracy theories about Leanna cucking Phil) is how he only seemed to care about dinner. And even then, it's not exactly big news, given that he apparently woke her up while she was ill and in bed, to get up and make him food.

I generally roll my eyes whenever Phil and his fans use the "You're just microanalysing everything!" defence when he says stupid shit and gets called out for it, but Fred is probably the one case where that excuse actually holds up. Guy takes it to the next level, and it's very obsessive and stalker-ish.
 
People often have speculated why Fred would have his "friends" perform humiliating stunts or say embarrassing things and then would seek pleasure from this. He did clearly enjoy subjugating people, yes, but even more than that is it gave him leverage over that person so that he could threaten, "If you go against me in a way I don't like, I'll release to the public without context the recording of that humiliating incident you were involved in." Sort of like initiation into the autistic mafia.
By himself, Fred Fuchs is an unintimidating, Phil obsessed little twerp who fancied himself a Cuban kingpin and it was not exceedingly difficult to take him down. Combined with the leverage he had on people, however, and one could see why so many people fell in line.
Let nobody forget who he is or what his methods are, because I suspect we haven't heard the last of Mr. Fuchs.
 
SirJamesDTech said:
People often have speculated why Fred would have his "friends" perform humiliating stunts or say embarrassing things and then would seek pleasure from this. He did clearly enjoy subjugating people, yes, but even more than that is it gave him leverage over that person so that he could threaten, "If you go against me in a way I don't like, I'll release to the public without context the recording of that humiliating incident you were involved in." Sort of like initiation into the autistic mafia.
By himself, Fred Fuchs is an unintimidating, Phil obsessed little twerp who fancied himself a Cuban kingpin and it was not exceedingly difficult to take him down. Combined with the leverage he had on people, however, and one could see why so many people fell in line.
Let nobody forget who he is or what his methods are, because I suspect we haven't heard the last of Mr. Fuchs.
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Don't forget that most fans of Phil, including ex-fans, are weak-minded.
 
SirJamesDTech said:
People often have speculated why Fred would have his "friends" perform humiliating stunts or say embarrassing things and then would seek pleasure from this. He did clearly enjoy subjugating people, yes, but even more than that is it gave him leverage over that person so that he could threaten, "If you go against me in a way I don't like, I'll release to the public without context the recording of that humiliating incident you were involved in." Sort of like initiation into the autistic mafia.
By himself, Fred Fuchs is an unintimidating, Phil obsessed little twerp who fancied himself a Cuban kingpin and it was not exceedingly difficult to take him down. Combined with the leverage he had on people, however, and one could see why so many people fell in line.
Let nobody forget who he is or what his methods are, because I suspect we haven't heard the last of Mr. Fuchs.
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My red flags went off when he enjoyed watching others do humiliating or disturbing acts for him. Especially his own "friends". Clearly has a sadistic side to him for sure.
 
JackDavis said:
Did you ever say anything to him, or just take it? Feels like you guys let Fred walk all over you.
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I told him it was annoying, but he didn't care lol

Nah I got used to it after a while I just didn't really care that much till the leaks came around and he made that half assed apology. I even told him in our skype chat to do it, but he refused only to do it a few days later anyway in the shittiest way possible, he doesn't even mention me by name and doesn't even apologize to me publicly like I wanted him to.

Here's a cap for example.
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And here's Fred's response:
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Being as Canadian as I am, I was nice about it because i'm sure you guys wanted him to do the same thing and I was aware of your existence, so I figured i'd help this thread out anyway I can.

He had one chance to redeem himself and he fucked it by being completely ignorant. So he can fuck off for all I care, he didn't care to help bury the hatchet, he only cared about himself. He can enjoy playing Destiny 2 and Overwatch alone. I have better people to talk to in my free time.
 
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I can't help but find it really delicious how ironic this is continuing to be. Mostly in regards to Fred shitting on Phil for wanting to remain in his little bubble, and being ignorant to reality. When here we are, with Fred pretty much going into hiding after an inconvenience, running back to his safe space away from the internet/social media, and him straight up saying that he's ignoring it because he's convinced people just want drama.

Cowardice, paranoia, and an out-of-control ego are never a good combination. That's Chris-Chan levels of a lolcow time-bomb just waiting to go off.
 
Jmboote said:
I can't help but find it really delicious how ironic this is continuing to be. Mostly in regards to Fred shitting on Phil for wanting to remain in his little bubble, and being ignorant to reality.
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And yet DSP himself is still out there, doing what he does. When DSP is the better person, you dun goofed.
 
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