Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

[Gloria]

Wana say sorry for my write, its around 6 to 8am super tiered.

Hello everyone, I was NEVER part of the SoK tbh but I had a lot of interaction with Fred Fuchs. I wanna start saying that over the time I spend with Fred Fuchs, I thought he was my friend, a nice person that I could trust and I had fun with him. I defended him at some extent, since some ppl where lieing about some stuff he did around the past month, more then so the TXT thing and about kicking ppl from the GsoK. Over all Fred Lie to many ppl, the GsoK and me, it was not a good ride for me but I been getting over it.

Over I wana give a big thx to SirJamesDTech for letting me explain to him some stuff as well leting me see the truth about the TXT situation, so thx SirJamesDTech for that. Also to Unsunghero for giving clearing things up and see who Fred really is.

As U can see Supported him like pretty hard in a way and I want ppl to how great I had him in mine, I didint care what happen in his pass cus like I told ppl, we make mistakes but the worst part is that lied, he was still doing this things till the day had talk and made what I felt was a friendship. Even so he turn out to be one of the worst ppl I had interact with in my life, this person shit on his friends, his fans and so much MANY ppl. If this man did this to his "personal" friends then u can have in mind what he could do to me. Over all I didint know about the Doxxing which that was a thing Fred sead "We dont DOX", so felt he was a good man at the end.

At the end he turn out to be a piece of shit! he lied & shit talk many ppl that are som nice ppl and friends of my. Fred likes to joke and Yeah there fun at its best but he took joke so FAR at times, I thought he was joking but he was for real. He sead he wanted to get Pasc4ls Dick bit by a snapy turtles, he mean it all, he wanted to one of the EX GsoK memeber to be a "rapist", resone Y he wasent active in the GsoK, cus of Fred as well MANY other didint get on VC, cus of Fred. The same EX GsoK memeber that Fred wanted to become a rapist got bulled and shit on, Fred fucking Slander him and gave him slanders Rols (In the EX GsoK Discord) so he could not hang around a OTHER friend. This EX GsoK memeber also joked around about Fred and Fred was not happy, he made up that he made Drama but, the truth is that he didint liked him and got butt hurt over it.

Fred Gave him a "Faggot" cus he was but hurt and was picking on him. Eli wanted to hang around a friend (Female) but Fred just bother him just so he would not hang out with her.

He Slanders Eli tbh, this Female is actually Eli's friend so she dos have interest just Fred is CLASIC Fred, he gets pist cus ppl make joke about him on his back when Fred him self, did the same.

About the Nude thing, some Female User post her Brest on discord and we joke about Eli having them when in real he dosent at that point. So Fred brings them up and tells him that he jerks of to them and all. The property thing is a OTHER Female, the same one from the First 2 Screen caps, Eli was joking about that as well was joking on the same thin on one video where he was playing with that female user, Fred got all butt hurt over a little joke.

Fred Messing with him cus he hates Eli.

I wana Give CONTEXT, cus ppl seem to take it in the wrong way, all that 1v1 thing KoP is talking about came about cus It was a room I MADE so KoP and Fred could talk in private. In the GsoK the thing ppl say with this female user it was a joke in the female user point of view tbh, if Fred took it serious well he is a RETARD, the Female didint took it serious and saw it funny, what ever happen in the 1v1 is what ever tbh and yes, it was RETARED cus it made ppl think some nasty things, but dont blame them.

Also he made Fun of Aggy Plays and got mad at it, Now KNOW how Fred is I know it was all for real and Fred was "HELPING" this girl at the time. Dont know why he would make fun of Aggy when she is a sweet girl.

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/Aggy00_zps6h0ei8xo.png

Also next U will see he sleep SUPER late and was on SUPER late.

And also u will see him telling me not to be obsessive over a friend cus she didint hang much with me, its funny if u seen how obsessive Fred was to Moogle, he is such a hypocrite telling me this, I wasent SPYING at my friend at all and saying creepy shit tbh like "Door sounds". Also he made Drama and made our friends fight, and telling him he is the one ppl will always follow cus its Fred.

He also just PICK some ppl to play in the SoK and fucked over otheres, he pick the ppl that can be in the game group.

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/02_zpsyt5vvlus.png

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/03_zpssragbioa.png

calling me Selfish.

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/04_zpsafekgxxk.png

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/05_zps1efpmvry.png

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http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/10_zpst0gdcc2e.png

This person is one of the worst persons, he is a ass hole and there is no comming back....
Will I forgive him yes, but we are NEVER going to be friends, he lost that the respect I had for him and humility. U attacked so MANY ppl, made use hate ppl u hate with out knowing them and ur WORST then the person u made Podcasts of Phil, No respect for ur friends tbh and no RESPECT for Alice!
I hope u NEVER come back to the internet and hide like ur doing at the moment like a bitch u are and get ur self a pair of balls.

Hope this helps a bit.

 

[Lurkette]

I BELIEVE that there was social pressure helping them, like most human beings, compliant in very shitty situations. It happens in all settings, school, job or in gaming circles. You overlook the most disgusting things or take part in it just to avoid being the next guy on the chopping block. It doesn't excuse it but it helps explain it. It sometimes feels like you guys forget that expectations are a major force in our everyday decision making; regardless of how horrible those decisions can be.

Hey, I'm not saying I would have done different in their situation; I'm really conflict avoidant, especially with groups I've been in and may consider those people as friends of sorts. I don't blame them for keeping quiet; I don't know their reasoning, or if they felt threatened, or if they even knew how bad it was. I can only know what they say.

I blame them for either having shit apologies or being silent (afaik). Your dirty, mold filled skeletons have fallen out of your closet for the entire web to see. Maybe you have legitimate reasons for them being there, maybe they're just corpses you murdered and stuffed in your closet. At this point it doesn't matter. What matters is how you handle yourself from here on out.

EDIT:

He sead he wanted to get Pasc4ls Dick bit by a snapy turtles, he mean it all,

i swear he used that as a joke on a podcast. not pasc4l specifically. maybe phil?

thanks for the messages btw. this is to you or anyone else in the GSoK, was he this friendly and willing to talk with anyone in the group? because most manipulators i've encountered don't want to talk about it, point blank, and try to turn it back on you or divert the conversation, so it's interesting he seems to have had several convos with you about problems you had with him.

 

[Che]

I said this before on stream but I don't want to go on streams and repeat this cause I think main members should not make videos or anything like that for a month ... I don't want us to come off like we are trying to get views but let me clarify .. at the time I was getting ready the for funeral and helping the family ... Fred wasn't on my mind at all ... I saw the patterns and Fred trying to act remorseful and found out he wanted to make a "memorial sokast" putting Alice's name in the title and picture for view .. I went to him and told him not to o that shit cause I will do something about it if he does ...Thats why if you watch that episode the first 10 minutes are people giving condolences and him acting awkward ..no name in title ..no memorial videos ..nothing ..trust me he wanted to make a memorial cast for traffic ... I stopped that and I didn't know about the doxing thing until a day ago

I believe Che is really remorseful, but man I wish you would have spoken out when this stuff was happening. When it was happening, I was so confused why you just disappeared from the group and a few people asked Fred about why you left the group and he was being all diplomatic about it "Oh, he left for personal reasons and because I'm such a good upstanding guy I'm not going to talk about his personal reasons." You coulda squashed his fake nice guy act right there.
You had another opportunity to do this when Alice passed away, unbeknownst to us you subtweeted Fred about calling people out if they were fake about their feelings towards her, but you let him get away with faking traffic so he could miss her eulogy during the SoKast. There were many chances you had to show how poor Fred was treating you and others, but you let him get away with it.
Now this isn't me bashing you at all, it's just me being disappointed that it took this long for this stuff to come out and we were under the impression that Fred was cool for so long. I understand "stop snitchin" and not wanting to cause problems, but this allowed other problems to continue.

 

[KefKaz]

A Question for the former SoK members. I'm sorry if this has been said before but I did read a good many pages back.

Did Fred ever approach you guys one on one with dirt on other members? I.e, did he ever come to you and say "hey I know you are cool with this guy but look at what he said about you here, I got proof dude!"

He never came to me directly, but sometimes he would just do it in public, and to members who weren't very active. God knows to how many members he did that. Some took a break for a few months or even a whole year. Those were the ones he would talk about.

So hey everybody I'm about to be a complete asshole ahah,

To all ex sok members, as you know I've been going around asking you guys what you did on twitter and seeing how much you guys would admit to, I fucked around acting like a nice guy saying good job for apologizing even though most of you never went into detail, in fact I can count maybe five of you who actually went into detail with what you did.

See, after all the streams and "twitlongers"(god fucking damn the twitlongers, aka the most insincere way to apologize ever) where you guys bury all the shit on Fred, make fun of him, laugh at the door shit, go on and on about how fucked up and stupid he is while saying nothing about how fucked up and stupid you were. He may be the worst but I want you all to remember this.

None of you should be happy and chill considering you guys were all going to let him get away with this had we not stepped in. I'm going to be brutally honest, learning the shit you guys said about Fred, you need to remember that you went along with it, you took all of it seriously, and you guys were sticking together until the end. Throughout all the leaks the only ones who get a pass are Che ren and moogle, they stepped up and said shit first and owned up to it, especially
Moogle considering he was still in the group. However moogle that livestream you had was circlejerking to the fucking extreme and the members involved completely invalidated the apologies they made.

Like I said I don't believe the majority of you are completely sorry, I mean why should you? None of the leaks were about you so you release shit about Fred but strategically keep out anything to do with you. I want you all to keep in mind that Fred is a total bitch but you guys were his bitch. He had you guys in the palm of his hands doing whatever he wanted until he got tired of you and any fucked up shit that would happen none of you would say anything, and if someone did say something you all would gang up on them and ruin that persons reputation.

People like txt and pol, you all knew that shit was happening, and none of you did a damn thing about it, it took a random nobody to call the sok lame to save txt from the usual shit you guys did to people. Then on top of that you all sat there and watched Fred blame pascal for the drama when fizz and evilaj also said shit to txt. None of you could stand up to the guy, this dumbass who couldn't even show his own face. You want to act like he was the only one taking things too far but you all went along with every crazy thing he did. How none of you thought the four room shit was weird, voting to kick members, lying on a podcast so he can pretend to be late, all the doxing, the situations with ardnas and divas, overreacting to a fucking Ed page, yeah you all fucking did stupid shit like that or at the least were fine going along with stupid shit like that, and you know why? because you all were equally as into it as he was, don't pretend like you weren't.

You were keeping quiet during the leaks and ignoring it hoping it would go away despite us showing all these fucked up things that were going on at first and you guys were ready to kick pascal out had it not advanced any further. My point is you guys need to shut the fuck up and remember that you guys have nothing to be proud of right now. Not even the ones who are legitimately owning up to it, people like Che and loophole who were emotional and hating themselves for what they did, they are people who are sorry and a couple more but none of them are acting like this is a great moment. Yeah congrats you all came back together and I'm happy for you guys but you are all fucking idiots for letting this stupid shit be the cause of the split in the first place.

None of you were saints, you all can keep blaming Fred all you want but at the end of the day you guys have no one to blame but yourselves for why the group turned out this way, Fred could have easily been kicked out at anytime if you all "really" thought that he was the main problem, but none of you did, because none of you had a problem with him up until this came up.

You all at the end of the day were a bunch of followers, and you would have kept following Fred for years to come unless he himself wanted you out.

I don't really care either way if you guys are sorry or not, I went around to help give people that extra push needed to admit shit and a couple did but most of you didn't. I wanted to see who was really sincere so I could find out which of you are no better than Fred cause just like you guys did with dsp I enjoy calling people out on bullshit.

Also to the mods and @Null please don't ban people unless they really are going over the top, I don't want a one sided thread where no one protects Fred because the people that do are hilarious.

You make good points, JoRo. Sorry if this is a-logging in some way (still getting used to how Kiwi works), and i'm not trying to defend anyone, but at least those i'm closer to are going directly to those they have wronged to make amends (me going to Doper and the TCP/IAS guys, for example) and that's a big thing in my opinion. Of course you'll get those who would rather release a shitty apology letter and run with their tails between their legs, but i guess it's in their nature to be such pussies.

And i can confirm some are indeed relieved to be free of Fred's influence, mainly due to the fact they were afraid of him.

 

[Unsungherobot]

Wana say sorry for my write, its around 6 to 8am super tiered.

Hello everyone, I was NEVER part of the SoK tbh but I had a lot of interaction with Fred Fuchs. I wanna start saying that over the time I spend with Fred Fuchs, I thought he was my friend, a nice person that I could trust and I had fun with him. I defended him at some extent, since some ppl where lieing about some stuff he did around the past month, more then so the TXT thing and about kicking ppl from the GsoK. Over all Fred Lie to many ppl, the GsoK and me, it was not a good ride for me but I been getting over it.

Over I wana give a big thx to SirJamesDTech for letting me explain to him some stuff as well leting me see the truth about the TXT situation, so thx SirJamesDTech for that. Also to Unsunghero for giving clearing things up and see who Fred really is.

As U can see Supported him like pretty hard in a way and I want ppl to how great I had him in mine, I didint care what happen in his pass cus like I told ppl, we make mistakes but the worst part is that lied, he was still doing this things till the day had talk and made what I felt was a friendship. Even so he turn out to be one of the worst ppl I had interact with in my life, this person shit on his friends, his fans and so much MANY ppl. If this man did this to his "personal" friends then u can have in mind what he could do to me. Over all I didint know about the Doxxing which that was a thing Fred sead "We dont DOX", so felt he was a good man at the end.

At the end he turn out to be a piece of shit! he lied & shit talk many ppl that are som nice ppl and friends of my. Fred likes to joke and Yeah there fun at its best but he took joke so FAR at times, I thought he was joking but he was for real. He sead he wanted to get Pasc4ls Dick bit by a snapy turtles, he mean it all, he wanted to one of the EX GsoK memeber to be a "rapist", resone Y he wasent active in the GsoK, cus of Fred as well MANY other didint get on VC, cus of Fred. The same EX GsoK memeber that Fred wanted to become a rapist got bulled and shit on, Fred fucking Slander him and gave him slanders Rols (In the EX GsoK Discord) so he could not hang around a OTHER friend. This EX GsoK memeber also joked around about Fred and Fred was not happy, he made up that he made Drama but, the truth is that he didint liked him and got butt hurt over it.

Fred Gave him a "Faggot" cus he was but hurt and was picking on him. Eli wanted to hang around a friend (Female) but Fred just bother him just so he would not hang out with her.

He Slanders Eli tbh, this Female is actually Eli's friend so she dos have interest just Fred is CLASIC Fred, he gets pist cus ppl make joke about him on his back when Fred him self, did the same.

About the Nude thing, some Female User post her Brest on discord and we joke about Eli having them when in real he dosent at that point. So Fred brings them up and tells him that he jerks of to them and all. The property thing is a OTHER Female, the same one from the First 2 Screen caps, Eli was joking about that as well was joking on the same thin on one video where he was playing with that female user, Fred got all butt hurt over a little joke.

Fred Messing with him cus he hates Eli.

I wana Give CONTEXT, cus ppl seem to take it in the wrong way, all that 1v1 thing KoP is talking about came about cus It was a room I MADE so KoP and Fred could talk in private. In the GsoK the thing ppl say with this female user it was a joke in the female user point of view tbh, if Fred took it serious well he is an exceptional individual, the Female didint took it serious and saw it funny, what ever happen in the 1v1 is what ever tbh and yes, it was RETARED cus it made ppl think some nasty things, but dont blame them.

Also he made Fun of Aggy Plays and got mad at it, Now KNOW how Fred is I know it was all for real and Fred was "HELPING" this girl at the time. Dont know why he would make fun of Aggy when she is a sweet girl.

Also next U will see he sleep SUPER late and was on SUPER late.

And also u will see him telling me not to be obsessive over a friend cus she didint hang much with me, its funny if u seen how obsessive Fred was to Moogle, he is such a hypocrite telling me this, I wasent SPYING at my friend at all and saying creepy shit tbh like "Door sounds". Also he made Drama and made our friends fight, and telling him he is the one ppl will always follow cus its Fred.

He also just PICK some ppl to play in the SoK and fucked over otheres, he pick the ppl that can be in the game group.

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/02_zpsyt5vvlus.png

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/03_zpssragbioa.png

calling me Selfish.

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/04_zpsafekgxxk.png

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/05_zps1efpmvry.png

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http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/10_zpst0gdcc2e.png

This person is one of the worst persons, he is a ass hole and there is no comming back....
Will I forgive him yes, but we are NEVER going to be friends, he lost that the respect I had for him and humility. U attacked so MANY ppl, made use hate ppl u hate with out knowing them and ur WORST then the person u made Podcasts of Phil, No respect for ur friends tbh and no RESPECT for Alice!
I hope u NEVER come back to the internet and hide like ur doing at the moment like a bitch u are and get ur self a pair of balls.

Hope this helps a bit.

My girl saika coming through with the news. Thanks for all this. It's a lot to read but I suggest people check it out to get a better understanding of Fred's behavior towards women and being "shit talked"

 

[Lurkette]

He never came to me directly, but sometimes he would just do it in public, and to members who weren't very active. God knows to how many members he did that. Some took a break for a few months or even a whole year. Those were the ones he would talk about.



You make good points, JoRo. Sorry if this is a-logging in some way (still getting used to how Kiwi works), and i'm not trying to defend anyone, but at least those i'm closer to are going directly to those they have wronged to make amends (me going to Doper and the TCP/IAS guys, for example) and that's a big thing in my opinion. Of course you'll get those who would rather release a shitty apology letter and run with their tails between their legs, but i guess it's in their nature to be such pussies.

And i can confirm some are indeed relieved to be free of Fred's influence, mainly due to the fact they were afraid of him.

a-logging is more akin to me going off about fred; getting needlessly angry over lolcows and their behavior, although for some cows (pedophiles, shitlords ala fred and vade) this "rule" is rescinded. it was named after one anthony logatto (a-log as he called himself). there's also powerleveling, which is talking about personal details that are either too needlessly in depth or too boring to care about.

like i said, i haven't read the whole thread and don't know who all has said what, but if there are members who are going to personally apologize to those they affect, that's a huge fucking thing imo. way fucking better then a twitlonger, although in some instances (like @RADRAD's) that's all you can do.

i just want people to realize how badly they fucked up, honestly

edit: oh, and trollshielding, which is "the act of attempting to evade being trolled by becoming a member of a trolling organization" as ED says.

 

[PL 879]

I think the rest of the members are getting a free pass at the moment given how exceptional Fred is. Most of them come across as shady given the timing of their apology twitlongers after Tevin's video was released and seem more sorry they got caught rather than what they did. Only Che afaik posted all the conversations he had with Fred, warts and all that implicated himself too rather than carefully selected snippets that just highlighted how insane Fred is. I've seen a few times in this thread ex-members mention that Fred seen em as pawns rather than friends, well most of the "friends" were recording and screencapping each other too. They're also the ones who were gleefully cheering on their leader when he used a voice changer to try and catfish someone.

As JoRo said this only happened because they went after too big a fish TXT and it snowballed from there, no one cared when they went after smaller channels. If the TXT thing didn't happen the same people would be scheming and plotting with Fred now. The best thing is that this saga is far from over.I don't think Freddy Boy is the sort to let others have the last laugh and if the captain is going down with the ship he's going to take the rest of them with him. The folks doing mini-SOK reunions and roasting Fred, I have a feeling the spotlight is gonna be shun back on them soon.

The best course of action for ex-SoK members to take would be to contemplate what exactly about Fred and what they personally have done are disgusting, and move forward having learned valuable lessons. The one that stands out the most is if you treat other people like they are beneath you, it is going to eventually be visited back upon you tenfold.
As it was mentioned to the ex-SoK, this is a golden opportunity to peruse the lolcow section and find a couple people to follow who aren't DSP. Learn to genuinely laugh instead of having some perverted form of righteous indignation.
Because I'm telling you if the a-logging and finding pleasure at tormenting others is not purged out of you and out of that a new SoK 2.0 somehow gets formed, I personally promise everything that has happened will occur again. And one or more of you will at that point be in Fred's current position.

 

[RandomAccount]

I BELIEVE that there was social pressure helping them, like most human beings, compliant in very shitty situations. It happens in all settings, school, job or in gaming circles. You overlook the most disgusting things or take part in it just to avoid being the next guy on the chopping block. It doesn't excuse it but it helps explain it. It sometimes feels like you guys forget that expectations are a major force in our everyday decision making; regardless of how horrible those decisions can be.

You are right and to be honest it's definitely a situation, where if you are in it yourself, you wouldn't act/judge the same way as I do as an outsider. Pretty sure a lot of people have had situation where they thought"I should do something" but don't - for whatever reason.
However there are some factors that really leave a bad taste in my mouth. The biggest one would be the time passed where these things have been going on and members already been kicked out/leaving the group. Meaning, the initial spark was there. Leaving the group would have not meant being the first person to go against the rest but the second or third or ...
And again, it had been going on for years. Not just hours or days. Some people had a long ass time thinking about it.

For me it's really the moment when members left the group that is of great importance - even if they left in silence. Anyone who did that, already has a small advantage when it comes to credibility.

To make this short:
If someone left the group before, even if they did something bad like Che, and now comes out and admits to everything but also putting - rightfully - the spotlight on Fred or Fizz or whoever was at the top of the dimwits, I feel like they know that they did something bad or something bad was going on.
Now, just like I said before, it's virtually impossible for me to even remotely know if they feel even an ounce of remorse or this is happening because shit blew up here. They literally left the ship the last minute possible and I personally get quite irritated when they make it into a hugbox that NOW condemns Fred but before were not just silent, but right under him.

 

[PorkchopSandwiches]

I know a lot of us are thinking what is next for Fred. Will he disappear forever? Come back a couple of months from now? etc. One thing we can't forget here is just because Fred has been exposed as a massive piece of shit who should go away forever and should get mental help, his autism and his shitty personality were not suddenly cured because of information coming to light.

With his "apology", Fizz's disappearance, Nomad' s silence, AJ running to the hills, etc. I am fully expecting they are drawing up their autistic battle plans to attack back at specific people and groups. I am fully expecting him to double down here and continue doxxing people and releasing info because he is so pretty.

I hope it is not true. But I can't put it past him to do something of this magnatude.

 

[Lurkette]

I am fully expecting him to double down here and continue doxxing people and releasing info because he is so pretty.

[insert joke about you typoing "petty" with "pretty"]

As I have done with Mr. Burnell, I fully expect to be able to move past my initial disgust and rage and ultimately enjoy a retard unable to stop digging his own grave. With dynamite. And wondering why everything is blowing up in his face.

So either way, I'm set for a good time.

 

[Honeybunny]

I know a lot of us are thinking what is next for Fred. Will he disappear forever? Come back a couple of months from now? etc. One thing we can't forget here is just because Fred has been exposed as a massive piece of shit who should go away forever and should get mental help, his autism and his shitty personality were not suddenly cured because of information coming to light.

With his "apology", Fizz's disappearance, Nomad' s silence, AJ running to the hills, etc. I am fully expecting they are drawing up their autistic battle plans to attack back at specific people and groups. I am fully expecting him to double down here and continue doxxing people and releasing info because he is so pretty.

I hope it is not true. But I can't put it past him to do something of this magnatude.

I get the feeling he and the others will just hole up in some obscure hole of the internet and pretend like nothing happened (or talking amongst themselves about how everybody but them are idiots and the people who've spoken out about the SoK are traitors)

 

[Kamatsubu]

Wana say sorry for my write, its around 6 to 8am super tiered.

Hello everyone, I was NEVER part of the SoK tbh but I had a lot of interaction with Fred Fuchs. I wanna start saying that over the time I spend with Fred Fuchs, I thought he was my friend, a nice person that I could trust and I had fun with him. I defended him at some extent, since some ppl where lieing about some stuff he did around the past month, more then so the TXT thing and about kicking ppl from the GsoK. Over all Fred Lie to many ppl, the GsoK and me, it was not a good ride for me but I been getting over it.

Over I wana give a big thx to SirJamesDTech for letting me explain to him some stuff as well leting me see the truth about the TXT situation, so thx SirJamesDTech for that. Also to Unsunghero for giving clearing things up and see who Fred really is.

As U can see Supported him like pretty hard in a way and I want ppl to how great I had him in mine, I didint care what happen in his pass cus like I told ppl, we make mistakes but the worst part is that lied, he was still doing this things till the day had talk and made what I felt was a friendship. Even so he turn out to be one of the worst ppl I had interact with in my life, this person shit on his friends, his fans and so much MANY ppl. If this man did this to his "personal" friends then u can have in mind what he could do to me. Over all I didint know about the Doxxing which that was a thing Fred sead "We dont DOX", so felt he was a good man at the end.

At the end he turn out to be a piece of shit! he lied & shit talk many ppl that are som nice ppl and friends of my. Fred likes to joke and Yeah there fun at its best but he took joke so FAR at times, I thought he was joking but he was for real. He sead he wanted to get Pasc4ls Dick bit by a snapy turtles, he mean it all, he wanted to one of the EX GsoK memeber to be a "rapist", resone Y he wasent active in the GsoK, cus of Fred as well MANY other didint get on VC, cus of Fred. The same EX GsoK memeber that Fred wanted to become a rapist got bulled and shit on, Fred fucking Slander him and gave him slanders Rols (In the EX GsoK Discord) so he could not hang around a OTHER friend. This EX GsoK memeber also joked around about Fred and Fred was not happy, he made up that he made Drama but, the truth is that he didint liked him and got butt hurt over it.

Fred Gave him a "Faggot" cus he was but hurt and was picking on him. Eli wanted to hang around a friend (Female) but Fred just bother him just so he would not hang out with her.

He Slanders Eli tbh, this Female is actually Eli's friend so she dos have interest just Fred is CLASIC Fred, he gets pist cus ppl make joke about him on his back when Fred him self, did the same.

About the Nude thing, some Female User post her Brest on discord and we joke about Eli having them when in real he dosent at that point. So Fred brings them up and tells him that he jerks of to them and all. The property thing is a OTHER Female, the same one from the First 2 Screen caps, Eli was joking about that as well was joking on the same thin on one video where he was playing with that female user, Fred got all butt hurt over a little joke.

Fred Messing with him cus he hates Eli.

I wana Give CONTEXT, cus ppl seem to take it in the wrong way, all that 1v1 thing KoP is talking about came about cus It was a room I MADE so KoP and Fred could talk in private. In the GsoK the thing ppl say with this female user it was a joke in the female user point of view tbh, if Fred took it serious well he is an exceptional individual, the Female didint took it serious and saw it funny, what ever happen in the 1v1 is what ever tbh and yes, it was RETARED cus it made ppl think some nasty things, but dont blame them.

Also he made Fun of Aggy Plays and got mad at it, Now KNOW how Fred is I know it was all for real and Fred was "HELPING" this girl at the time. Dont know why he would make fun of Aggy when she is a sweet girl.

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/Aggy00_zps6h0ei8xo.png

Also next U will see he sleep SUPER late and was on SUPER late.

And also u will see him telling me not to be obsessive over a friend cus she didint hang much with me, its funny if u seen how obsessive Fred was to Moogle, he is such a hypocrite telling me this, I wasent SPYING at my friend at all and saying creepy shit tbh like "Door sounds". Also he made Drama and made our friends fight, and telling him he is the one ppl will always follow cus its Fred.

He also just PICK some ppl to play in the SoK and fucked over otheres, he pick the ppl that can be in the game group.

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/02_zpsyt5vvlus.png

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/03_zpssragbioa.png

calling me Selfish.

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/04_zpsafekgxxk.png

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/05_zps1efpmvry.png

http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/09_zpsxope2frd.png


http://i1157.photobucket.com/albums/p584/Saika-/Fred Fuched/10_zpst0gdcc2e.png

This person is one of the worst persons, he is a ass hole and there is no comming back....
Will I forgive him yes, but we are NEVER going to be friends, he lost that the respect I had for him and humility. U attacked so MANY ppl, made use hate ppl u hate with out knowing them and ur WORST then the person u made Podcasts of Phil, No respect for ur friends tbh and no RESPECT for Alice!
I hope u NEVER come back to the internet and hide like ur doing at the moment like a bitch u are and get ur self a pair of balls.

Hope this helps a bit.

Thank you Saika for your story. I think it's very interesting, but even so I'm sorry that you and the GSoK guys went through all this. No worries though there are better times ahead for everyone.

 

[JoRo]

I admitted my part in helping to write the ED page, and i never did edit it though on ED. Im absolute shit at wiki's and dont even know how to edit them. But i wont lie to you i did have interest to see what kind of dumb stuff would happen on the page just as those who were hurt by SOK at the time. I will say this JoRo i admitted my end of writing the page and making a contribution before it was published on the site, i even admitted it two years ago and i am admitting it two years later now. I never said i was not guilty, i did my shit back then and i went into fights started stuff and was upset at the way i was being threatened and blackmailed into silence. If i am no better then Fred then i want you to tell me what i can do in your eyes that would make me better than him. Because i see your criticisms towards me on something i already did do and fully fessed up to in the past and today. I was barely even a member and i was probably the shortest member in SOK history.

Sorry divas I worded it wrong I wasn't calling you out there in that spot I was bringing up how they fucked over you and ardnas, not to call you out over the ed page I mean

 

[Gloria]

Thank you Saika for your story. I think it's very interesting, but even so I'm sorry that you and the GSoK guys went through all this. No worries though there are better times ahead for everyone.

Yeah, I hope this "E day" thing ppl have zero clue has come a bit at the light, cus when u dont have context on it and dont know what going on is not a good thing. Fred at the end lost it all and its a lot, If I can fine more stuff with context in my PM that can show how he is I'll put it.

 

[THEKINGOFDIVASVLOGS]

Sorry divas I worded it wrong I wasn't calling you out there in that spot I was bringing up how they fucked over you and ardnas, not to call you out over the ed page I mean

Its not a problem at all lol miscommunications happen, i misread it as well. Im going to delete my post anyways.

 

[PorkchopSandwiches]

So the list of spineless fucks is:

• Fred
• Fizz (but no one gives a fuck about fizz except his hot topic wannabe edgelord gf)
• AJ
• Nomad
• Prideful Zombie
• Leoking

Any others?

Updating my post from yesterday. Someone was kind enough to reach out and let me know that I forgot to include Leoking on this list. He has been extra quiet as well.

 

[Near]

Updating my post from yesterday. Someone was kind enough to reach out and let me know that I forgot to include Leoking on this list. He has been extra quiet as well.

Supposedly Leoking's in the army

 

[BIgBadWolf]

I find it quite funny that people like Schad (and AJ?) came out just a couple of days ago trying to save face stating they officially left the SOK when, in fact, the SOK had already been dead for a while.
No offence but when RADRAD, Fazzy and Pasc4l came out on Loophole's stream to state it, it looked like a last resort move to try and save face. "Well I guess this storm won't blow over, better abandon ship." I don't doubt they're sorry for the shit they did but this says a lot.

 

[James Earl Cash]

Speaking of Twitlongers, I made one on this awhile back. I forgot to post in here. I know it's not the greatest twitlonger ever but it's something. https://twitter.com/jabman6961/status/905850525656154114 http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sq5tp9

 

[KefKaz]

Supposedly Leoking's in the army

He is in the army, yeah. But i saw him tweeting someone two or three days ago. There's no way he doesn't know what's going on.