Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

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Agreed ..it takes time and we gotta earn it back ..no arguments there

Odie Esty said:
Oh im not arguing that, im just arguing its not a good enough excuse, and if they fell to it once they'll fall to it again. Talk is cheap, it takes more than a bulletpoint apology to repent.
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The biggest irony of it all is that people starting to feel guilty about watching Phil purely to see him get fucked over by life and trolled thanks to Fred is potentially the worst thing that could happen to Phil. A large number of his "fans" are detractors and I assume where he gets a lot of views on youtube and twitch wanting to see him fuck up. Hell, a large number of his twitch tips come from people writing him nasty shit hoping to get a reaction. Fred and other DSP trolls are Agent Smith to DSP's Neo. One cannot exist without the other. They must co-exist to exist.
 
Che said:
Agreed ..it takes time and we gotta earn it back ..no arguments there
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Of course. We're all guilty of shit. It's whether we own up to it, try to fix shit, and apologize; or saying "I didn du nuffin" while holding grudges over others in the community still after everything that's happened that matters. Personally I want to go for the former and fix my bonds with people. I know people outside of the group don't understand but I knew these people for two years and I was pretty close to all of them. I liked being with everyone more than I liked being an SoK member. Fuck it came to the point that I only stayed in the group so I could talk to my friends every day. If I wasn't in there for friendship I'd have left the SoK a long time before I actually did. And once I was out I didn't give a shit about being an SoK member anymore. I felt like I was free, but it hurt the worst that I lost all the people I cared about by gaining that freedom. Anyone if given the second chance I have now would try to fix things and regain those friendships. It doesn't mean I don't see problems down the road or that I'm turning a blind eye to the chance that the same mistakes may happen again, but for now I'd rather just ride this wave and repair my bonds. Not jump down peoples throats.
 
So I want to say something about all the members a little bit later, but for now people really need to not be so easy to forgive a lot of them. Think back on all the stuff they said since the leaks came out, how many of them have shown a single thing about themselves? Should members really be laughing on stream so quickly after being exposed like this after claiming they are sorry for what they did?
 
JoRo said:
So I want to say something about all the members a little bit later, but for now people really need to not be so easy to forgive a lot of them. Think back on all the stuff they said since the leaks came out, how many of them have shown a single thing about themselves? Should members really be laughing on stream so quickly after being exposed like this after claiming they are sorry for what they did?
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Well, they are people who were shit talking people behind others back, then are pretty quick to ditch Fred and shit talk him on stream, or be like BeAwesomeOne and try to make and retweet Fred Memes when he was sperging out in DMs for people not to leak shit as shown in the OP. I'm not really talking about the exposing stories or the ones where they're finally airing gripes on Fred but basically that Moogle stream of the now ex members imitating Fred and constantly giggling over door memes. There's a lot of trust to be regained really. They're now not only people who talked shit behind people's backs but they're also people who dropped all this shit the second it goes south to make themselves look better.
 
Oh shit I forgot about Tyler.

So the list of spineless fucks is:
  • Fred
  • Fizz (but no one gives a fuck about fizz except his hot topic wannabe edgelord gf)
  • AJ
  • Nomad
  • Prideful Zombie
Any others?
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Still waiting for a reply from everyone's favourite doorman, Fred. Oh and the silence from Nomad, Tyler, and AJ (maybe some others) isn't helping their cause. Sorry but this is the song I can't stop thinking about throughout this drama.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=HIC9muS2Yuo
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SoK, as I understand it, grew and turned into what it was by a bunch a people cliquing up over their disdain and mockery for Phil.

Now a bunch of those exact saying people are cliquing up over their disdain and mockery for Fred.

I'm not saying that Fred doesn't deserve that disdain and mockery, because he's a huge piece of shit that needs to be called out. A lot of the stories coming out about Fred listening to doors and trying to zoom and enhance faces are well worth listening to the streams for. But I do suggest that all the former SoK members take some time off to reflect and decompress before going "Hey dude you're really cool let's start streaming together on a regular basis!
 
JoRo said:
So I want to say something about all the members a little bit later, but for now people really need to not be so easy to forgive a lot of them. Think back on all the stuff they said since the leaks came out, how many of them have shown a single thing about themselves? Should members really be laughing on stream so quickly after being exposed like this after claiming they are sorry for what they did?
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Oh no believe me. One person did something I will never forgive. As for the others it's just a long road ahead you know? No one should think everything is peachy keen ow. After all the shit we've been through an apology won't instantly fix everything, but at least people are willing to try now when they didn't before.
 
Maybe Fred Fuchs attracted people who are like him in some ways. You know, with all of the gossipy drama and all. And you're seeing that with some ex-SoK members.
 
Question for you. How involved was Prideful in all of this? I find her silence very interesting especially since we have already heard Schad's weak ass apology. Does Prideful have blood on her hands too?

Kamatsubu said:
Oh no believe me. One person did something I will never forgive. As for the others it's just a long road ahead you know? No one should think everything is peachy keen ow. After all the shit we've been through an apology won't instantly fix everything, but at least people are willing to try now when they didn't before.
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Disrespected Pronouns said:
SoK, as I understand it, grew and turned into what it was by a bunch a people cliquing up over their disdain and mockery for Phil.

Now a bunch of those exact saying people are cliquing up over their disdain and mockery for Fred.

I'm not saying that Fred doesn't deserve that disdain and mockery, because he's a huge piece of shit that needs to be called out. A lot of the stories coming out about Fred listening to doors and trying to zoom and enhance faces are well worth listening to the streams for. But I do suggest that all the former SoK members take some time off to reflect and decompress before going "Hey dude you're really cool let's start streaming together on a regular basis!
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LMAO! All of these guys were former Phil fans that turned against him and formed a group to shit talk him. Now they are former Fred friends that turned against him and are grouping up to shit talk him. You hit the nail on the head man.
 
Ehhh ..I think that is an unfair judgment ...you can't compare bitchy gossiping to obsessive crazy behavior like coming up with conspiracies about counter programing and such and going through obituaries to try and prove someone faking their death ... give us shit cause we deserve it but look at us on what we did/do rather than grouping us in with the worst member

PhilGoutnell said:
Maybe Fred Fuchs attracted people who are like him in some ways. You know, with all of the gossipy drama and all. And you're seeing that with some ex-SoK members.
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PorkchopSandwiches said:
Question for you. How involved was Prideful in all of this? I find her silence very interesting especially since we have already heard Schad's weak ass apology. Does Prideful have blood on her hands too?
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Prideful was just more a follower if anything. She and Fizz hung out all the time. She was never directly involved in the shit we did though. I was surprised to hear she talked shit about me after I left cause when I had left the group we were on good terms. She had even said I was one of her best friends in the group. So that kinda stung. Then again it might be because she was afraid I'd expose one thing I do know about her, but I never did. For all it's worth I kept my word.
 
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