Orbiter Fred Fuchs / Freddy Boy - DSP-log who ended up surpassing Phil as a lolcow. The sok proved phil right. Fuched on Kiwi.

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THEKINGOFDIVASVLOGS said:
I can explain it completely. Because i decided to go against Fred because i disliked him and made it obvious Renegade thought it would be a huge troll to let Fred get into power and Hollywood Kojima said it was alright to do so. But Fred did a lot of kissing up to Renegade and i mean A LOT we all know he did this with helping Renegade with his first computer that he built, and supposedly talking to him for hours and Renegade just let it happen and gained power just like that. I even questioned it because Fred just came in with no experience, he was a nobody and was not in even for 3 months or so, while anyone else could have gained the leadership position. They thought it was a great troll and believed Fred on everything. Even the fact he was first place at the spelling bee, he was class president and that he had great grades. It makes me laugh right now just even thinking about the fact the true enemy was never Darksydephil but it was the person taking advantage of their kindness and let them in. Kind of Jewish if you ask me.
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It seems it's the group's damn own fault for actually taking this shit so seriously. "Choosing a leader", really? What did you fucks needed a "leader" for? That, for me, is the most baffling thing about this whole shebang. I participated of group-effort fuckeries in the past, not going to claim moral highgrounds on that, but we certainly never had the need for a "leader", and if someone had actually tried to "climb the power ladder", he would have been laughed out of the IRC room.
 
THEKINGOFDIVASVLOGS said:
For me i had the same feeling as well being in there, and its hard just look at Renegade and how when he left suddenly he was downvoted to hell, twitter alts calling him out, and SOK members sneak dissing Renegade and Renegade went back in due to fear.
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This is a tactic that Scientology uses. I bet Fred shares many traits with David Miscavige.
 
SirJamesDTech said:
I would love if one or all of you could clarify something. How exactly did Fred get to be the leader of the SoK?
I was in a discord with an ex-member who described it as being like Stalin coming into power. That he was not voted in.
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I think one of the biggest reasons simply was that he contributed the most to the group. And nobody else really took initiative with the idea. Absolute power corrupts absolutely it seems.
 
Bridge to Nowhere said:
Well, I should've guessed there'd be some autism from the group that spent hours talking about a fat man who plays video games, but I don't think anyone could have guessed it would go this deep. Blackmailing, doxing, framing people...I don't think there's a defense for this stuff, and it's only going to go downhill from there. This is the reason Kiwi Farms doesn't want to become an autistic Illuminati - the autism will gaze back at you eventually.
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Well, they're hardly the ones doing this stuff. There is a person in this thread who tried to pull the dox card on me recently. And admited having ten other people trying to do the same.
 
God fucking damn it I hate you all Ahahah, I'm still trying to get what we have all sorted ahah
 
It's finally here.
 

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In my experience, the minute a group on the internet has more than one group chat whose members are based solely on their "rank" or importance, that shit has become a cancer and needs to be cut out.
 
Raine said:
I've been monitoring this quietly and been trying to be neutral to this situation. However, it's at the point where it's just hopeless to defend the SoK now, especially Fred. This has been coming for a long time and any more lies from Fred will just make him look worse in the end. (Like the 2 years thing, I disagree and can vouch on that [:powerlevel:] and say he's, more than likely, still doing it.)
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You know the funny thing is, Darksydephil use to say "that was YEARS ago guys! it doesent matter anymore!!!" and everyone laughed him out because he does it all the time but somehow yet he can use Darksydephil's excuse that it was not recent? Yeah sure man 4 chatrooms, and probably a 5th one on the way after Che showed all the evidence on him. The fact is he has a history of doing it and that is important, its not a one off event and its not something that happens once in a moon, the leaks show this is consistant, it does happen and it will happen for however long people decide to let themselves be manipulated by the falsehood of Sons Of Kojima. Or should i say Sons Of North Korea.

Le Redditeur Part Deux said:
It seems it's the group's damn own fault for actually taking this shit so seriously. "Choosing a leader", really? What did you fucks needed a "leader" for? That, for me, is the most baffling thing about this whole shebang. I participated of group-effort fuckeries in the past, not going to claim moral highgrounds on that, but we certainly never had the need for a "leader", and if someone had actually tried to "climb the power ladder", he would have been laughed out of the IRC room.
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I have no idea i was never a leader and i just wanted to hangout and have fun do whatever. Its when it became more of a Stalin empire that it began to crumble, i think they took themselves way too seriously where they actually believed in what they said about themselves. Of course they will deny it but internally they know this is true. Its a good lesson for everyone to learn about groups, they are meant to be fun and inviting and banter do whatever. Not meant to show off to the world and virtue signal that you are better than the other person for it.

CyanideCaesar said:
I think one of the biggest reasons simply was that he contributed the most to the group. And nobody else really took initiative with the idea. Absolute power corrupts absolutely it seems.
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Correct Fred has said this a lot "i am in the groups a lot, i am there every second,i am the most active " he has admitted to sleeping on Skype calls and even Kingofpol noted he talked with Fred for 6 hours, that is not a normal conversation at all. It really gets the mind thinking about what matters to him the most and really what might be mentally wrong with him.
 
neger psykolog said:
Here is my TL;DR version of events (if anyone wants to expand on this so they can explain it to people who haven't kept up with the autistic soap opera known as Sons of Kojima then it'd be appreciated)
  • Fred has been revealed to be very paranoid/controlling over other people, mainly seems to be targeted at people who have left SoK or spoken badly about them.
  • Fred/some members of SoK flip out if anyone monetizes videos about DSP
  • Fred/some members of SoK have been implicated in blackmail of people
  • Fred/some members of SoK have been implicated (or was aware) of fraudulent copyright strikes against DSP
  • Fred/some members of SoK have implicated (or was aware) of Doxxing of certain people
  • Fred/some members of SoK have (or was aware) of organized disliking of videos that went against his views
  • Fred/some members of SoK have (or was aware) of organized reporting/takedown of videos that went against his views
  • Fred/some members of SoK have (or was aware) of organized reporting of twitter accounts that went against his views
  • Generally speaking a lot of the SoK members have recorded voice conversations, captured Skype text chats and similar things leading to a large amount of controversial information being revealed. This is where a large amount of drama seems to be coming from.
Again if someone wants to add to that TL;DR it would really be appreciated, because I don't know half of what the fuck is going on with this shit. Chrischan's life is easier to keep track of than this. We can perhaps get it added to the OP to help people understand.
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Updated bullet point breakdown (:autism:) of current events (from my perspective, feel free to add/correct/whatever). I'm only doing this to make it a bit easier to follow what the fuck is going on.

If anyone knows which members have issued statements that I haven't seen or distanced themselves it'd be great if you could add it to the :autism: pit.

  • Fred has been revealed to be very paranoid/controlling over other people, mainly seems to be targeted at people who have left SoK or spoken badly about them.
  • Fred/some members of SoK flip out if anyone monetizes videos about DSP
  • Fred/some members of SoK have been implicated in blackmail of people
  • Fred/some members of SoK have been implicated (or was aware) of fraudulent copyright strikes against DSP
  • Fred/some members of SoK have implicated (or was aware) of Doxxing of certain people
  • Fred/some members of SoK have (or was aware) of organized disliking of videos that went against his views
  • Fred/some members of SoK have (or was aware) of organized reporting/takedown of videos that went against his views
  • Fred/some members of SoK have (or was aware) of organized reporting of twitter accounts that went against his views
  • Generally speaking a lot of the SoK members have recorded voice conversations, captured Skype text chats and similar things leading to a large amount of controversial information being revealed. This is where a large amount of drama seems to be coming from.
  • Fred has been implicated in doxxing members and their associates because they tried to leave the group
  • There have been instances of death threats surrounding doxxing
  • Fred is accused of plotting to have TheyCallMeTXT & KingofPol fight each other to get rid of them both
  • It is possible but unconfirmed that a member or members of SoK were behind the DSP swatting incident
  • There are claims that the group is finished, although there hasn't been anything officially stated so far
  • Some people have come on KF and given a bit of a picture of how the Discord/SoK chat server was run
    • It had several rooms, designed for vetting the "true and honest" nature of applicants
    • It had a room for the most "true and honest" members of the group
    • Fred was reportedly super insecure about people using any other rooms
Reactions/apologies so far
  • Several members have distanced themselves from the group entirely
  • Fred issued an apology and the general attitude was that it was insufficient/insincere (link: https://t.co/xthOaFfVA4)
  • Mog/Moogle/MogFantasy issued an apology and it was generally well received (link: https://t.co/YUTD6IuEdm)
  • DSP issued a statement via his twitter (link: https://t.co/Kyo3b2TW7T)
    • He claims that Leanna's dad was swatted
    • He claims that besides the trolling someone actually physically sent him shit (i.e. feces) in the mail
    • He claims the reason for his breakup with Leanna was due to financial issues behind the scenes
    • He claims that he had to miss Leanna's brothers wedding due to the swatting incidences
    • He claims that SoK members tried to find the address/date of his wedding (according to some people on this thread, he at the very least gave out the date by himself)
    • He blames Fred/SoK for the downfall of his YouTube income and subsequently makes them responsible for his inability to repay his debts.
    • He says his life is already destroyed by debt and he is only looking to be positive and move forward
 
Um Oh Ah Yeah said:
In my experience, the minute a group on the internet has more than one group chat whose members are based solely on their "rank" or importance, that shit has become a cancer and needs to be cut out.
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Exactly like big guilds on WoW. "Main Raid", "Alt Raid", "Noob Raid", "Trash Raid", ever more elitist and spergy. When I still played that shit, I got "demoted" from a comfy raid group because the raid leader wanted to start doing Mythic raids (the hardest tier of raiding available), and I was pretty much satisfied with doing Heroics, and because I told him that, he kicked me out of the Heroic raid for "not enough compromise".
 
I'm disappointed tbh I didn't know it would turn out like this, it's insane that I knew so little about it.
neger psykolog said:
  • Fred is accused of plotting to have TheyCallMeTXT & KingofPol fight each other to get rid of them both
  • It is possible but unconfirmed that a member or members of SoK were behind the DSP swatting incident
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Pol is claiming that Fred encouraged him to start this beef with Fred which I don't know if it's true or not. Most of their conversations went down in discord and privately. I'm just curious to the context behind this whole thing, I know Fred did not want to get involved what so ever with TXT so it would just seem odd if he just started shit with him through Pol.
To my knowledge there was no member in the group that tried to SWAT DSP. But right now I don't know who to believe, I just hope it isn't true.
 
I have to ask, how easy was it to get into the group? Was there an 'initiation process' or anything along those lines?
 
Long Donovan said:
I have to ask, how easy was it to get into the group? Was there an 'initiation process' or anything along those lines?
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It really depends. If you edited a half decent TIHYDP and they wanted to do a Let's Endure, you contact Fred and he talks to you on Skype about it. Afterwards, you can just hang out in one of their Skype groups. (This is from my personal experience anyway.)
 
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soknonymous said:
Staying anonymous. Former member. Fred is nuts and a stalker. I've heard rumors that Fred has "harassed" people (sometimes "sexually harassed"), and honestly after all of these leaks I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
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When were you a member until?
At this point, we really only deal in facts instead of rumor. Have you heard or seen him say something to corroborate harassment?
 
Le Redditeur Part Deux said:
Well, they're hardly the ones doing this stuff. There is a person in this thread who tried to pull the dox card on me recently. And admited having ten other people trying to do the same.
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A Kiwi or an SoK dude? Because if it was a Kiwi then yeah, that'll happen.
 
Gravelord Nito said:
Who would have guessed a bunch of people gathering to make fun of someone who was bad at videogames, business, and adult life in general would devolve in to such a shit show?

I bet whoever bought one of their t-shirts feels even more ridiculous now.
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You'd think so, but I remember a counter strike clan who all got tattoos to show they were "true and honest" members. Then the clan broke up because of some drug dealing/criminal shit.

lol.
 
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