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A clickbaity "anonymous source" article about Russell replcing Bottas.

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He is a mercades driver who is doing really well and is out of contract with Williams (as Bottas is with merc). Reports over winter suggested Daimler were blocking Hamilton's contract as he wanted a say over his teammate while Daimler want Russell and doubt Hambone agreeing to a strong teammate. You could see them wanting their future tallent in the car for the new rules.

On the other hand though the status quo is working at Mercedes with no big problems like with Hamilton being pissy that Rossberg actually challenged him. Hamilton is out of contract and might not resign to be alongside Russell because that asterisk next to his WDC titles would only grow which Toto wouldn't risk.
 
It's been quite obvious for a while that Merc's been building Russell to be their driver, especially after all the past prospects either fade out like Wehrlein or end up being on the holding pattern forever and going elsewhere for their seats like Ocon. I don't see Bottas being in F1 after this year anyways because all the seats are full and he's mostly known as the guy who's main job was to be Barrichello to Hamilton's Schumacher.
 
Mercedes getting pissy that redbull out grey area'd them.

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I'll laugh so hard if the new test comes in and the redbull wing still passes. Seeth more Mercedes and Hamilton, we already knew your "we want a challenge rather than just walking it" was bullshit all along.
 
Coccxys said:
Mercedes getting pissy that redbull out grey area'd them.

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I'll laugh so hard if the new test comes in and the redbull wing still passes. Seeth more Mercedes and Hamilton, we already knew your "we want a challenge rather than just walking it" was bullshit all along.
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The biggest focus for FIA in situations like this should be "is this a threat to the driver's safety?" and if the answer is no, it should be made legal. Hell, it's such a smart way to optimize the car, it should be encouraged. If anything, there should be no leeway on wether this is going to be banned immediately or at the end of the season. If DAS was good enough to be used for the rest of the season, so's the flexible wing.

Ferrari's fuel fuckery was a clear rules violation and was correct to be banned immediately, the flexible wing, on the other hand, used a smart application of the rules/how adherence to the rules is tested to go for a grey area.

F1 is meant to showcase car developements, so why not acknowledge something as smart as this and allow it?
It might be a great replacement for DRS once 22 rolls around and there's less dirty air and closer racing. The flexible wing could allow greater straight speeds while still allowing decent downforce in slower corners.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
If anything, there should be no leeway on wether this is going to be banned immediately or at the end of the season. If DAS was good enough to be used for the rest of the season, so's the flexible wing.
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Exactly this. The FIA bought the argument that DAS was about warming tyres rather than adjusting aero height (which it totally also does but its not for that... honest) and concluded that Mercedes couldn't easily remove it in season so allowed it.

Well redbull (along with alfa and ferrari but you don't hear about them because only redbull is competing with mercades) designed an advantage that would pass all the FIA tests but no we can't have that make them redesign it mid-season when it isn't just the work of a moment to design the rear aero package of a car and the engineers are working flatout on the 2022 cars.

Meanwhile Mercedes are defending their floppy front wing as passing all the deflection tests, well guess what so does the redbull rear wing but let's have a close look shall we?

Hamilton and Mercedes deserve eachother, nothing but sore losers.

The whole rules enforcement in F1 has been a joke for years, they make the rules and do the minimum testing then only look at anything else when someone officially protests it. The FIA should have their own engineers embedded in the factories judging everything that goes near the car, all the simulation work, all the designes etc for legality.
 
Coccxys said:
Exactly this. The FIA bought the argument that DAS was about warming tyres rather than adjusting aero height (which it totally also does but its not for that... honest) and concluded that Mercedes couldn't easily remove it in season so allowed it.

Well redbull (along with alfa and ferrari but you don't hear about them because only redbull is competing with mercades) designed an advantage that would pass all the FIA tests but no we can't have that make them redesign it mid-season when it isn't just the work of a moment to design the rear aero package of a car and the engineers are working flatout on the 2022 cars.

Meanwhile Mercedes are defending their floppy front wing as passing all the deflection tests, well guess what so does the redbull rear wing but let's have a close look shall we?

Hamilton and Mercedes deserve eachother, nothing but sore losers.

The whole rules enforcement in F1 has been a joke for years, they make the rules and do the minimum testing then only look at anything else when someone officially protests it. The FIA should have their own engineers embedded in the factories judging everything that goes near the car, all the simulation work, all the designes etc for legality.
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It's this kind of shit that makes me wonder if Mercedes has some FIA guys in their pockets, so they don't look too closely at a car that has been literally running circles around anyone else for a decade now.

Mercedes is good, they have a good company philosophy and they bought a shitton of amazing talents... but someone else should have been able to dublicate their toys if it was merely about finely tuned aero-packages or optimized gearboxes and so on. Ferrari has absurd amounts of money and all they could do to stay close (not even really challenge) was their fuel fuckery.

Something's not right me thinks.
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
Mercedes is good, they have a good company philosophy and they bought a shitton of amazing talents... but someone else should have been able to dublicate their toys if it was merely about finely tuned aero-packages or optimized gearboxes and so on. Ferrari has absurd amounts of money and all they could do to stay close (not even really challenge) was their fuel fuckery.
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They are just liars when it comes to money. they use company recources for basicly free and they can invest more into their engines because they sell them.
The big boost came with he envolvment of AMG. they also started selling street legal cars with older f1 engines this year.
 
Just going to do another interjected derail - don't fight it, you love it really (and I'm also slowly pushing F1 back out of my diet of motorsports because there's too much stuff I want to watch every week).

This weekend is the Nurburgring 24 hours, which is pretty neat. In the race you have the latest GT3 porsche 911's, a Mercedes AMG GT3 with no mechanical linkage between the steering wheel and the front axle, a Dacia Logan, and an Opel Manta from the late 70s.
Let's be honest, Baku is just going to be DRS passing for two hours with some fat darts commentator just shouting about how brilliant Lewis Hamilton is, so why not enjoy a nice 170 mile an hour drive through a forest for two laps of the clock instead.

Stream for the N24 can be found below, and in the description of that stream is a load of links to dedicated on-board streams without commentary - I highly recommend the #831 Hyundai in TCR because that's genuinely my favourite class of car to race whenever I get the chance.
Stream goes live at 1430 local to the track in Germany, but being YouTube it does show converted times if you open it.

 
Count down to hambone cock suckered crying about muh 6 tenths (even then vestappen is still faster).

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Yeah FP1 is rarely representative but the red bull and ferrari are both being cried about for their wing being perfectly legal but falling fowl of the no one is allowed to beat Hamilton rule.


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> Hamilton never gets his car setup right and screws his lap ending up 7th.
> Mercedes apologises and accepts the blame for their driver's shit performance.

> Pit crew machine a wheel nut meaning it can't be removed in a pit stop and have to DNF Bottas.
> it was Bottas' fault because he stopped 2-3 cm from where they wanted him

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Singapore cancelled.

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Coccxys said:
> Pit crew machine a wheel nut meaning it can't be removed in a pit stop and have to DNF Bottas.
> it was Bottas' fault because he stopped 2-3 cm from where they wanted him
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If it's meant to be an explanation why the nut was machined to a perfectly smooth finish, I think it's alright, but if this is meant to put the blame on Bottas, it's just incredibly petty and stupid. The fault lies with the mechanic, that didn't put the tool on the nut before hitting the button and that's it. Bottas not positioning perfectly might be a factor, but it would be a factor in what lead to that mechanic's error - it's not Bottas' error.

It's shit like this that makes me believe Bottas will be out of a cockpit next season. And frankly, I just don't think he'll have any takers for another contract... though it would be interesting to see how he fares in another team alongside another driver. I doubt he'd be that good tbh.
 
Stoneheart said:
The big boost came with he envolvment of AMG. they also started selling street legal cars with older f1 engines this year.
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The Project One? Not actually old engines, they're newly milled at Ilmor, sorry, Mercedes AMG High Performance Power-Trains in Brixworth, probably ended up saving a few jobs due to the cost cuts coming in, an amount of workers have been shuffled to non F1 projects. Interestingly this makes them like Ilmor which they left to go focus only on F1. But yeah every bit of R&D done for the project one would have been looked at to see if it could be applied to the F1 project and not cost the F1 division any money.

RomanesEuntDomus said:
it's meant to be an explanation why the nut was machined to a perfectly smooth finish, I think it's alright, but if this is meant to put the blame on Bottas, it's just incredibly petty and stupid. The fault lies with the mechanic, that didn't put the tool on the nut before hitting the button and that's it. Bottas not positioning perfectly might be a factor, but it would be a factor in what lead to that mechanic's error - it's not Bottas' error.
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They could have worded it a hell of a lot better such as (I am not a PRman):

"Due to Bottas overshooting the marks the mechanics had to quickly reposition themselves and unfortunately this resulted in Bottas needing to retire"

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In other news Hamilton appears to have done a good, tl:dr French tennis open players are required to do media duties, Naiomi Osaka says no, get's fined, pulls out and Lewis defends her choice. I agree competitions which allow anyone to enter shouldn't require media duties and I think the only people who can demand media are the people the sportsman has direct contracts with.

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Oh and I need to go look at my F1 fantasy team.
 
Stoneheart said:
Well thats very sexy...
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I sincerely hope it looks like this:
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Full Race Replay said:
Tsunoda pulling a ragunatgan in the runoff area.
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It doesn't seem as bad as Ragunathan, who managed to cook his engine while failing to spin around the car, Tsunoda eventually got away, but still, but a good start for this weekend.

Poor guy. Japan just has no luck with their drivers, has it?
Sato is doing fine in Indycar, but other than that: Yuji Ide got his superlicense revoked mid season, Katayama and Takagi were mostly unremarkable at best and sometimes just managed to crash their cars in spectacular fashion at worst.

I really hope he'll do good, he's a young driver, but this kind of stuff doesn't help and Alphatauri/RB doesn't fuck around with their seats. You don't perform, you're out.
 
> "wah limbo wing gives the 6 thenths here".
> still would have been faster than you even without it then.

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Also either Mercedes have come up with a new design for 1 gp or this whole limbo wing thing is some Mercedes strategy.
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