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Not as long as Toto is around. But he's been teasing the idea of leaving a few times and I could see him introduce some woketard corporate policies for short-term benefits, while he knows that the long term issues won't be his problem to deal with.
In the end, it's just me hoping something will show up to stop Mercedes from dominating. They've been the strongest car for a decade now and it's getting really fucking boring, especially when the ones winning are an annoying fuck like Leiws and a wet blanket like Bottas.
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I'm really hoping the new engine freeze doesn't build in some new Merc dominance. Mercades still have the strongest engine and even with making it an aero dominant series the engine will be a big advantage still and with no one else able to develop their engine to make up the difference. While I can see reason for these freezes they are against what F1 is all about. Take the RBR dominant seasons for example, they had things like blown and triple diffusers that gave them a huge advantage at the beginning of the season but by mid season most of the other teams had developed their versions. If they had frozen aero development then it would have been the same as now with that advantage baked in.
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I know this is an F1 thread, but I don't know of any other thread where motorsports are discussed, so I'm posting here that unfortunately, former World Rally Champion, Hannu Mikkola has died from cancer.
The Penultimate Warrior
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I look forward to him boycotting the Saudi, Bahrain and Abu Dhabi GPs over the fact they keep African migrants as slaves in all but name
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They already asked him about the Saudi GP and if it was a good idea given their human rights record. His response was that he didn't have enough information to comment and will need to go away and look at the situation. Can't let his activism have a negative impact upon him by losing points or annoying his pay masters now can he. Of course no one in the media will ask him if he's looked at the situation and what he thinks because you can't be going trying to hold him to account now can you...
Edit found the quote:
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Concerning Soccer, there's something making the round that 6.500
I doubt the situation of guest workers from poor nations is any better in Dubai, Saudi Arabia and so on.
Frankly, the next time a woman gets executed by the Saudi State for daring to not wear a hijab or something equally neanderthalian, Hamilton's inbox should be flodded with "#Say her name" shitposts.
Dude is in the unique position to refuse to race in these nations and it wouldn't even put a dent in his chances to win the title, yet he still goes there. And of course, he's the personal guest of the nation's ruler.
Yeah. Not impressed by this faggots play-pretend-activism.
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BRIT motor racing teams were last night caught up in a terrifying missile attack in Saudi Arabia.
Terrorists launched a rocket at the capital Riyadh where the multi-million-pound Formula E electric racing championship was taking place.
A rocket was launched at the capital Riyadh where the Formula E electric racing championship was taking place
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A rocket was launched at the capital Riyadh where the Formula E electric racing championship was taking placeCredit: Getty Images - Getty
Top Brit Formula E driver Sam Bird was at the event
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Top Brit Formula E driver Sam Bird was at the eventCredit: Rex Features
Seven Brit drivers, including winner Sam Bird, were at the awards ceremony when the Houthi rebel device was blasted from the sky by a US patriot interceptor.
Six British-based teams including Williams, Jaguar, Mahindra Racing, Mercedes EQ, Envision Virgin and NIO 333 were there to take part.
The country’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman was among wealthy VIPs attending the futuristic racing event at the Diriyah circuit.
No injuries were reported but flights were diverted.
Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton, pictured, are working on Formula E teams but were not at the event last night
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Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton, pictured, are working on Formula E teams but were not at the event last nightCredit: PA
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MOST READ IN MOTORSPORT
SOARING TO GLORYFormula E: Brit Sam Bird extends winning record to cap off double header
SLOW DOWNRed Bull ace Verstappen tight-lipped over replacing Hamilton at Mercedes
The Saudi military coalition has been fighting the Houthis in nearby Yemen for six years.
Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton are working on Formula E teams but were not at the event last night.
The new motorsport championship is run in the same style as Formula 1 but with totally electric race cars and is said to be the future of the sport.
Terrorists launched a rocket at the capital Riyadh where the multi-million-pound Formula E electric racing championship was taking place.
A rocket was launched at the capital Riyadh where the Formula E electric racing championship was taking place
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A rocket was launched at the capital Riyadh where the Formula E electric racing championship was taking placeCredit: Getty Images - Getty
Top Brit Formula E driver Sam Bird was at the event
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Top Brit Formula E driver Sam Bird was at the eventCredit: Rex Features
Seven Brit drivers, including winner Sam Bird, were at the awards ceremony when the Houthi rebel device was blasted from the sky by a US patriot interceptor.
Six British-based teams including Williams, Jaguar, Mahindra Racing, Mercedes EQ, Envision Virgin and NIO 333 were there to take part.
The country’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman was among wealthy VIPs attending the futuristic racing event at the Diriyah circuit.
No injuries were reported but flights were diverted.
Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton, pictured, are working on Formula E teams but were not at the event last night
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Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton, pictured, are working on Formula E teams but were not at the event last nightCredit: PA
ress AssociationMOST READ IN MOTORSPORT
SOARING TO GLORYFormula E: Brit Sam Bird extends winning record to cap off double header
SLOW DOWNRed Bull ace Verstappen tight-lipped over replacing Hamilton at Mercedes
The Saudi military coalition has been fighting the Houthis in nearby Yemen for six years.
Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton are working on Formula E teams but were not at the event last night.
The new motorsport championship is run in the same style as Formula 1 but with totally electric race cars and is said to be the future of the sport.
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There's video of the missiles being intercepted in the Al-Jazeerah article.
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Again why would you hold an event like thins in such an unstable area? Is everyone forgetting Saudi is busy fuckong around with their next door neighbour's civil war? Its pretty clear shit like this is likely since what "terrorists" do you know that can get guided missiles easily and why the need for patriot missiles systems everywhere. Thats all without the absolutely shocking rights record of the country you are outwardly supporting here. In the words of the joker you get what you fucking deserve.
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Funny, given that he believes his milquetoast and short-sighted comments are informed, but not calling out a religious autocracy with a multitude of well-charted human rights abuses is something he doesn't know enough about. It's almost as if he's picking the easiest battles to back because he's a corporate stooge.
I've really come to not stand Hamilton as of late, both on and off the track. If Vettel wasn't wasted in Ferrari and given the opportunities Hamilton had, he would have eclipsed Hamilton in terms of accomplishments. Vettel won a race in a fucking Minardi early in his career while his teammate at the time finished third from last. Before turbo hybrid, Hamilton was only somewhat better than a midlaner.
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Oh yeah, let's watch the hairdryers take on a proper circuit. I can't wait to watch a 5 minute Spa lap that has 7 different Mario cart grids and a fan vote for who wins rather than the order they cross the line in. A merger is an even better idea, yeah let's totally wreck F1 in favour of some joke series. But then where would all the has/never been single seat drivers go, DTM only has so many seats.
In all seriousness why does F1 need to go electric? If they want to stay relevant then they're switching to biofuels and can transition to hydrogen technologies as and when they become more avaliable. 19 years is a long time, I doubt FE is going to last that long and there will probably be a more convenient alternative to electric vehicles such as the aforementioned hydrogen. Agag strikes me as no better than a patent troll here: jump on the rights, make a token attempt to do something with them then try to strong arm the big boys into paying up for those rights.
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Those cars can barely last 45 mins and that's on street circuits that make monaco look like monza* with heavy braking zones to recharge the batteries. Once the batteries and engine efficiency is good enough that the cars can put a race together on classic circuits that will be a big step in the legitimacy of the league. As it stands though, Formula E is a total gimmick. They advertise going to "progressive cities" as they race in countries like Saudi Arabia lmfao. When you go to their youtube channel it's more lecturing about global warming than auto racing.
*Watch a few minutes of this video of free practice of the formula e race in diriyah this week and imagine how awful this would be in formula 1 cars.
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There was a crash in 2nd race that never got shown, acknowledged or discussed during the broadcast. They just released video of it, said worst crash in FE thus far.
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That was some scary shit, glad to hear that driver will be ok. Imagine putting your life on the line for virtue-signaling electric gokarts
WhiskeyZuluLima
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This is a non-issue.
Ferrari were cheating, or at the very least all the evidence said they were cheating but the FIA couldn't prove it with data. Once the FIA installed fuel-flow sensors which only they had access to, and any impression of tampering would be seen very poorly, Ferrari suddenly slowed down. Now, they weren't found guilty of cheating, nor were Ferrari directly penalised for any such infraction - however 1+1=2.
Mika Salo does not know what he's on about most of the time (he's almost completely detatched from motorsports as a whole, only turning up to be the driver steward occasionally and whenever he needs a few quid), being one of the few rent-a-quotes around F1 who seem to do it without being noticed.
There's no indication there was actually a secret agreement made with the FIA and Ferrari (don't misunderstand me, it's not beyond probability) and somehow nobody has leaked this before or made reference to it, no disgrunted FIA or Ferrari employee, no idle chatter between staff of either and their friends which slips beyond that, nothing at all - and in Formula One, a sport where air is more watertight, the complete lack of any prior indication says this is a load of crap. People are picking it up for a headline, and for some reason people have taken it to be important.
Indeed, here's his Goodwood run from 2014
Due to how the rules in FE are, a driver was penalised for not making use of both of their Attack Mode activations before the race ended (being red flagged and not restarted) despite the race not running full distance. It's an odd thing.
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Formula E is a fucking joke and this is why.
The Attack Mode is supposed to be an advantage, but when you don't use it, you have an advantage over the others and need to be penalised - even when a red flag cockblocked your second activation? The fuck is this shit? I've only watched one full FE race and the Mario Cart mechanic never did the person any good. Every single time I watched the drivers go through that activation thingy that was placed off to the far side of a corner and forced the drivers to severely slow down to go through without crashing. On avergae, a driver lost about 3 positions and that amazing boost helped them overtake two guys, so they had a net loss of 1 place. Fan-fucking-tastic.
From a marketing perspective, this isn't a bad idea, use F1's popularity to give FE a boost... problem is: All this does is highlight how fucking lame the FE is.
F1's engine sounds are rather lackluster compared to the screaming banshee that is the V12 engine of the past... but Formula E cars sound like cheap leafblowers.
Just a quick comparison, 1995 goodness:
Current F1:
Meanwhile:
I rest my case... or so I would say, if this wasn't so pathetic. I would almost say it sounds like RC cars, but even those sound a lot better.I can't help but think of that utterly hilarious chase sequence in Space Mutiny and the MST3K riff. Whenever someone goes over that Mario Cart boost grid thing, I hear the line "I'm gonna need both horsepowers on this one!"
But it's not just the engine sounds, it's also the speed.
To my knowledge, there is only one track in FE that is used partially in F1: Monaco. And to nobody's surprise, the FE track is significanlty shorter and way more boring.
Check out the different layout:
After the first corner, instead of heading up the hill and towards Mirabeau, they beeline towards what is called the Nouvelle Chicane (Corners 10 and 11) in F1.
The track for Formula E is 1,76km in length and the fastest lap is 53.3s.
F1's layout is 3,337km long with the fastest lap of 70.16s.
Average speed is 30.28s/km (ie: 118.8 kph) for Formula E and 21.02s/km (ie: 171.6kph) for F1... and this despite having to deal with many narrow corners on a climbing track and a hairpin curve on the long layout. If they indeed raced on the F1 Spa layout, based on these numbers, FE would take three and a half minutes for one lap and given their maximum race length of 45 minutes plus one lap, that would amount to 13 or 14 laps at best.
Whoever suggested this is a fucking mastertroll.
So... I actually typed out a rather nasty comment about showing this guy the black flag and revoking his license for this utterly stupid move, but I have to give him at least some credit: After his mistake, he followed the other car back to where it slammed into the barrier and helped the other driver get out to safety.
So, you know, stupid move to block the other driver like that, but credit where credit is due: Stopping your car to help the other guy is a good move, so it kinda evens out in a weird way.
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The reason attack mode is off-line in that way is specifically because of how much power output it enables the driver to have for the following two minutes - it means drivers can't overtake by activating it and then ride off into the sunset, it seems daft (and is daft) but it's to ensure there's some amount of fight on track. In this much, I'll defend the way in which they've designed it into the racing, as they have thought it through - still complete crap of course.
The penalty for it is similar to race series where you have mandatory pit-stops and you don't take it at the allocated time or (as in this case) a red flag comes out. The age of phrase 'rules are rules' being the mentality which is often applied, rightly or wrongly.
The sound is a very big part of experiencing motorsports - hell, I'll go as far as to say all sports including even snooker. In sportscar racing you can distinctly tell which car is which going past by the sound of the engine, with them all having unique traits due to any of: enging configuration, location in the car, how sound-proofed it naturally is, how close to the ground, etc; and so FE does suffer that. Every powertrain in FE does genuinely have a different sound, it's odd to make sense of but there is a difference in what little noise they make - but the issue we are all taking here is the little noise.
The reason for FE using that configuration of Monaco is a matter of costs. For Monaco as a full circuit to be used, it'll have to be done to the standards expected of FIA Grade 1 for the F1 to go there - otherwise it fails its safety inspections and potentially loses its Grade 1 license, daft I know but I think fair.
Now, I'm sure it's no surprise to you that I say this, but it's rather a logistical nightmare to shut down all of a city for a race which takes place in a single day (only once every two years, I might add, alternating with Monaco Historic), to build all of those barriers, and the other huge list of things which need to be done - remember, Monaco starts being built in late March for a race in mid-to-late May - it inevitably costs money, especially when the circuit then needs to pass all relevant safety standards.
FE doesn't have the money, despite the FIA pissing money into it enough that they've only made a financial net neutral on one season (guess which one that was), to have all of that done. The other option is to run the short configuration they do which is its own license grade (forgive me, I should remember what that is but I don't) and therefore is less impactful financially. Usually what is done with Historic/FE running that track is that they make use of the circuit which is built up to that point, basically running on F1's money, or just before it's all taken down - but you again can't run the full circuit unless you're able to fund the circuit staying at Grade 1 - remember Azerbaijan and their manhole covers, it's small things like that.