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Not to mention Russell had to sit in a car that is not meant for driver of his height. The race must have been a bit uncomfortable since Russell is 1.90 meters tall. 20 centimeters taller then Lewis. I wonder if Stroll would have won if they hadn't pull him into the pit. If I remember correctly Stroll was ahead of Perez after the first series of pit stops. Does anyone know if Hamilton will be allowed to race next week?
 
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Well today proved a bunch of things fans likely suspected strongly:
- Bottas is a mid level driver at best; maybe replacement level. Meaning: does anyone doubt Hulkenburg, currently available, couldn't step in and equal or beat Bottas after a short learning curve?
- Russell deserves a competitive seat
- Russell proved he could not only replace Bottas, but also Hamilton. For a lot less money (initially) and without the constant wokesperging.

Hamilton has to be fucking SEETHING that his legacy has been laid bare while he coofs in isolation: he's a very good driver in incomparably elite machinery, not the other way around. Russell is also a very good driver. Russell could be Hamilton tomorrow, no problem. Notice that the media immediately ignored Lewis once he got sick, too. So much too seethe about, lol. All the leverage in that contract negotiation just went to Toto. If Toto planned that, nice 4D underwater chess.

Kudos to Russell for unmasking both Mercedes drivers in less than a week. Also to Perez for finally getting the big result he's been so close to several times.
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Absolutely. Hamilton might have the advantage not competing with Russel directly like Bottas and we have no data from previous races on that track to compare their results, but Russel made Bottas look like a fool and he has ruined Hamilton's legacy in one fell swoop.

And as sad as his bad luck in those last few laps was, it does kinda feel like the Karma Gods just wanted to hand a well deserved victory to one of F1s great drivers, who sadly never had the honor of standing on the topmost spot of the podium. If he has to leave F1 permanently now, at least he does so with an amazing display of his skill. Had he not suffered an engine failure last race, he'd have been on the podium for three consecutive races... and all this driving a Racing Point. At least this display might improve his chances of getting a cockpit (preferably a competetive one) in 2022.

PS: 2020 seems to be one of the best seasons of F1 in the past years, if only cause it brought us some amazing one-off races on tracks that we'll sadly never see again. Maybe FIA will take the hint and visit these racetracks in the future. In case of Bahrain, it would be pretty easy to alternate between the regular track and the Sakhir layout every season.
 
Bottas is completely fucked. Was clear to see he was on track to get smoked by Russel by 15 seconds. Russell's overtake on Bottas after the second safety car was absolutely impossible, but i was in tears when russell has to come into the pits again. But good for Perez to win, to stick it to Racing Point one more time. Honestly, screw Lance and Lawrence stroll.
 
ngl Sakhir gave me the most feels from an F1 race in years. Sergio gave RP the middle finger they deserve. As for George... he's given M-B plenty to think about.

In a perfect world, Hamilton would retire from F1 at the end of 2020 and spend his newly found free time banging supermodels and doing TED talks about muh oppression. This would allow M-B to yoink George out of Williams (for a fee), with Sergio taking his place on a 1 year contract. A shitty F1 seat is better than no seat at all, and the F1 grid would be much poorer for losing Sergio.

It'd also give M-B a tantalising option for 2022 if they decide to yeet Bottas at the end of the 2021 season. George and Sergio as team mates, anyone?
 
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The "hot takes" from the Lewis butt boys is that is what merc is like when Hamilton isn't there to lead them. Like what about Hamilton makes anyone think he is capable of being a positive influence on professional engineers and mechanics? But I suppose they have to cling onto something after Russell showed them that it was intact 90% the car.
 
Coccxys said:
The "hot takes" from the Lewis butt boys is that is what merc is like when Hamilton isn't there to lead them. Like what about Hamilton makes anyone think he is capable of being a positive influence on professional engineers and mechanics? But I suppose they have to cling onto something after Russell showed them that it was intact 90% the car.
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Lol how do they explain Germany 2019 it was basically a copy of what happened there. A quick pit stop decision led to miscommunication
 
Robert Sanvagene said:
ngl Sakhir gave me the most feels from an F1 race in years. Sergio gave RP the middle finger they deserve. As for George... he's given M-B plenty to think about.

In a perfect world, Hamilton would retire from F1 at the end of 2020 and spend his newly found free time banging supermodels and doing TED talks about muh oppression. This would allow M-B to yoink George out of Williams (for a fee), with Sergio taking his place on a 1 year contract. A shitty F1 seat is better than no seat at all, and the F1 grid would be much poorer for losing Sergio.

It'd also give M-B a tantalising option for 2022 if they decide to yeet Bottas at the end of the 2021 season. George and Sergio as team mates, anyone?
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Hamilton isn't going to quit F1 this winter but it's not beyond the imagination that he wants to race 2021, pass 100 race wins and win an 8th championship before retiring. Remember the sticking point seems to be that Lewis only wants a one-year contract while Merc wants to tie him to three years. For 2022 onwards I think it's certain that Russell will be in one Merc seat but I don't think they will put a 32 year old Checo in the other car. My money would be on Mick Schumacher (if he impresses at Haas in 2021) or Max Verstappen.
 
The amount of posts today is a good indicator that this race was one of the better ones for emotions and drama certainly this year, if not in last few.

While I don't follow anything to do with Hambone, has he even sent any type of message about the race, like congratulating George and Checo? Or has he been silent? I soooo hope that he doesn't come back for Abu and moreso, something is afoot and whether he wants to retire or Merc has become woke (about Ham and not needing him) we don't see him at all next year. We can only hope but how fantastic would it be if Ham is gone for next season?

Also Albon. What a fucking yo-yo deal with his situation. First he is gone for good, then RB wants to give him maximum opportunity to seal the drive, then he has two shitty races while Perez has podium (without engine blowup) and a win during same two races. I like Albon, he seems like a chill dude and has talent, but that ain't enough for me to keep him in the RB when Checo is free. I seem to recall reading that some rich group or family in Thailand are heavily invested in Red Bull (the product) and I don't know if Albon is related to them or just the fact he is Thai, but I wonder if that group/family is putting pressure on RB that they keep him or they may close the piggy bank? I don't know the full details/history on this, someone else might, but there is some connection between Thai/RB that maybe is what is keeping Albon there.

But in the end, it just shows you how stupid it all is if Checo isn't driving next year. He has his own backing, saved his team from collapse yet he is shown the door in favour of keeping the owner's son (who is a good driver, but is not a Checo-level driver). And another seat just happened to be open in a top team, yet they want the inferior driver to stay and giving him every opportunity to do so, because the business connection between RB/Thai maybe is influencing that.

Both RB and RP are quite stupid (purely if you look at it in a sporting/competition aspect) to not have Checo as one of their drivers. Just goes to show how the financial aspect of F1 is first and foremost over the competition. That's what continually leaves a sour taste in my mouth about F1, when I should be enjoying the world's highest level of motorsport. But that's what it is all about in the world today, isn't it. All about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$s when it comes down to the crux of the matter.
 
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This might just be me, but I wish there was a little more coverage of Aitken and Fittipaldi, if only during the pregame. It was cool to have two rookies in the race, and on such a weird course nonetheless, so it would have been fun to show them a little more.
Since Grosjean's out of the last race, it looks like Fittipaldi might be back again. I'd like it if they talked about the family name and the legacy of Emerson.
 
Coccxys said:
The "hot takes" from the Lewis butt boys is that is what merc is like when Hamilton isn't there to lead them. Like what about Hamilton makes anyone think he is capable of being a positive influence on professional engineers and mechanics? But I suppose they have to cling onto something after Russell showed them that it was intact 90% the car.
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Truly Hamilton whining about bad tires while churning out fastest lap after fastest lap is the glue that holds everything together at Mercs.

Seriously, anyone who thinks Hamilton is the one keeping the team together must be a complete fool
 
I think with Red Bull they've taken the point/realised they can't burn through young drivers so quickly and actually need to give them chance to develop. This could have lead to them going too far the other way in this case but only they have the data on their drivers through the years for comparison. I also think they're far too fixated on only using their own driver program which is leading to not giving much consideration to the outside drivers. Vestappen quite publicly said he wants the Hulk when asked who he thinks should be in the other Red Bull.

This was the best race in a long long time because someone I wanted to win actually had the opportunity to but with the possibility they were going to get caught.

Hamilton's positive test prevents his travel to Abu Dhabi until he tests negative, but F1 is only allowed to tavel as one today. He needs permission from the government to travel today (while positive) or later in the week if he gets a negative.
 
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Coccxys said:
I think with Red Bull they've taken the point/realised they can't burn through young drivers so quickly and actually need to give them chance to develop. This could have lead to them going too far the other way in this case but only they have the data on their drivers through the years for comparison. I also think they're far too fixated on only using their own driver program which is leading to not giving much consideration to the outside drivers. Vestappen quite publicly said he wants the Hulk when asked who he thinks should be in the other Red Bull.

This was the best race in a long long time because someone I wanted to win actually had the opportunity to but with the possibility they were going to get caught.

Hamilton's positive test prevents his travel to Abu Dhabi until he tests negative, but F1 is only allowed to tavel as one today. He needs permission from the government to travel today (while positive) or later in the week if he gets a negative.
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He's King Louie the 1st, he will get his way, no doubt about it. It's about prestige for whoever hosts the Abu Dhabi grand prix, and whoever decides this matter will bend over backwards to have Formula 1s golden boy on his racetrack, if only so they can stand up to Bahrain.

So yeah, I genuinely do hope whatever happens, he'll not be fit enough to drive. Don't wish him anything bad, but I want to see Russel blow away the competition yet again. Would also prove that it's not a one-off.
 
Today in dumb fuck Lewis fan boy comments...

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I didn't realise golf clubs and tennis rackets made as much difference as cars do in F1, well learn something new everyday I suppose (or in reality dumb analogy is dumb).

Anyone questioning Lewis being god and that merc not carrying him to victory is getting butt hurt comment's off this guy.
 
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Worst thing to happen to Hamilton would be if Mercs replaced Bottas with Russel and Russel would proceed to kick Hamilton's ass the way he dominated Bottas this race.
I mean, seriously, Russel got the wrong tires, pitted to change them to the correct ones, had a puncture so he had to pit again and he still got within 4 seconds of Bottas (who, admittedly, was running on worn tires at that point in time, but still).

If Hamilton would get his shit slapped by Russel in this way in 2021, these chucklefucks would whine about how it's just that Hamilton is a shadow of his former self and that clearly, Russel would not have been able to stand up to Hamilton during his primedays (which happen to be a couple weeks ago).

As much as I wanted Russel to show how overrated Hamilton is, I have to say, I almost feel bad for Bottas, that guy now looks like a complete clown.
 
Coccxys said:
Today in dumb fuck Lewis fan boy comments...

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I didn't realise golf clubs and tennis rackets made as much difference as cars do in F1, well learn something new everyday I suppose (or in reality dumb analogy is dumb).

Anyone questioning Lewis being god and that merc not carrying him to victory is getting butt hurt comment's off this guy. In another post he says ferrari were caught cheating last season so who knows how long uts been going on so some of Schumacher's championships could be wrong.
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People were joking back during the reigns of Max Mosley and Jean Todt that FIA actually stood for Ferrari International Assistance based on how many times they got a slap on the wrist or got away with blatantly dirty tactics or have rival cars declared cheaty when they figured out a cheat that Ferrari didn't have.
 
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Yup even Bottas knows that was not a good look.

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Russel didn't make him look like a fool to the ones that don't follow F1 properly. He made him look like a fool to anyone who saw the race, regular audience and everyone else.
It was plain to see that Russel was doing better. Dude is too large for the cockpit, doesn't even yet know all the intricate shit of the engine setups, so his engineers had to walk him through everything and he lost time in the last corner of the course, cause he tried to take it like during the prior grand prix with his Williams and he still outperformed Bottas.

Apparently, Bottas is under contract until the end of next season, and I think he might want to reach out to some other teams for a new contract in 2022, just in case. I think the only thing that could save him now is Mercedes deciding to not sign Lewis and Russel at the same time, cause it would cause too much conflict within their team... or Lewis leaves and Bottas can stay to play second fiddle to Russel.
 
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