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I know no one mentioned above, but I hope if true Nico rips Bottas a new one next year...
Oh great. Instead of either signing Colapinto or Bortoleto they take on the guy who didn't do anything this season. Hülkenberg is carrying Haas by himself basically and what is Bottas doing?

Also, was this the first ever Singapore GP without a SC or VSC?
 
I was bored...

Well that sucked compared to MotoGP. Enea v Jorge was like Schumi v Mika (or Alonso).

Lew Lew upset about strategy, was he not involved in the talks about what to do?

Colopinto (and Lawson) looks good despite Sargent looking bad, is F2 fit for purpose?
 
And F1 media and Internet has gone full toxic over Danni getting the fastest lap off Norris.

I fucking hate when a Brit is anywhere near a win or championship it just makes everything to do with the sport worse.

Lew Lew upset about strategy, was he not involved in the talks about what to do?
Probably, the plan was to jump Max off the line, probably try to feed him to Russell then hold him once they had track position in a tricky to overtake race. He failed to make the vital first point of that work so it all fell apart, that's the risk he took though.

Colopinto (and Lawson) looks good despite Sargent looking bad, is F2 fit for purpose?
No, they've been saying this for a while. The jump in performance from F2 to F1 has been growing wider and wider making it more and more of an insurmountable jump. The gap from F3 to F2 has stayed somewhat steady (and smaller). There has been a lot of discussion on what they should do but really not much they can do if they want to keep F2 as a (somewhat) budget friendly spec series.
 
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Daniel Ricciardo's emotional interview suggests F1 exit following Singapore Grand Prix​

By Simon Smale[/URL]
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Daniel Ricciardo finished 18th in what might be his final Grand Prix. (Getty Images: Rudy Carezzevoli)

In short:​

Daniel Ricciardo said that he was aware he may not race again in Formula 1 after the Singapore Grand Prix.

Ricciardo has won eight Grands Prix in his 257-race career, but is being tipped to be replaced by New Zealand's Liam Lawson.

What's next?​

The Formula 1 season continues at the United States Grand Prix in Austin on Ocotber 20.

The trademark smile is never far away from Daniel Ricciardo.

But the tears glistening in his eyes betrayed the truth that the affable Australian's Formula 1 career may well be over after 257 races.

Following his 18th place finish in Singapore — the last runner of all the finishers — Ricciardo spent a long time in the car before stepping out and conducting a visibly emotional interview with F1.com.

"A lot of emotions, because – look I'm aware it could be it," Ricciardo said, glistening with sweat after a gruelling race in the tropical heat.

"And I think it's also just [being] exhausted after the race, so it's like a flood of many emotions and feelings and exhaustion.

"The cockpit is something I got very used to for many years," he added, appearing to choke back tears and pausing repeatedly to compose himself.

"I just wanted to savour the moment."

Following the race and his media commitments, Ricciardo was given a small guard of honour by his RB team, with whom he shared some fist bumps and hugs, further suggesting that he would not return when the F1 circus visits Austin for the United States Grand Prix next month.

Ricciardo had composed himself by the time he spoke to UK's Sky Sports team, but acknowledged that the fairytale return simply hadn't come to fruition.

"I have to acknowledge it's obviously been a little bit of a race-by-race situation and I would obviously have loved the weekend to have gone better," Ricciardo told Sky Sports.

"It didn't, so I have to be prepared for this maybe being it.

"Let's say I'm at peace with it. At some point it will come for all of us."

Ricciardo returned to the Red Bull stable of cars following a disappointing stint away from the team, first with Renault and then McLaren.

After two disappointing years with McLaren — who are now fighting for the title with Lando Norris — he was let go and was without a drive for the 2023 season before Red Bull offered him a post as a reserve driver.

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Daniel Ricciardo stayed in his RB car following the race. (Getty Images: Rudy Carezzevoli)

He was then promoted into a driving seat at Red Bull's sister team RB Racing midway through 2023 with a personal goal of returning to the primary team before his time was up.

However, the 35-year-old has been consistently out-performed by his 24-year-old teammate Yuki Tsunoda in both qualifying and in races, leading to questions over his ability to compete at the top of the sport.

"I always said I don't want to come back just to be on the grid, I want to try and fight back at the front and get back with Red Bull," Riccardo said.

"Obviously it didn't come to fruition so then I also have to ask myself the question: 'Well, then what else can I achieve and what else is there to really go for?'

"I put my best foot forward, let's say the fairytale ending didn't happen but I also have to look back on what it's been. Thirteen or so years and I'm proud."

Red Bull boss Christian Horner said that the team needed to make "difficult decisions" and "consider all of those options" during the four-week break between races, with New Zealander Liam Lawson tipped to step into the Australian's seat.

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Liam Lawson (right) is waiting in Red Bull's wings. (Getty Images: Rudy Carezzevoli)

"These things are under constant review and there is obviously a much bigger picture other than just Daniel as we continue to look at all of our options as we move forward," Horner told Sky Sports.

"There's a natural break coming, with effectively almost a month's gap to the next race. It's only natural that you'll take stock and consider all of those options for the final part of the year.

"It's not to the detriment of Daniel. We know how he's performed. We've got a lot of data, a lot of knowledge of where Daniel is. It's a much bigger picture within the whole driver merry-go-round of what the future looks like."

Ricciardo has been one of the most popular drivers in the paddock throughout his eight-win, 14-year career, a status reflected in his being awarded the fan-voted Driver of the Day award despite his lowly finish.

"Typically the driver of the day is not something us drivers look too much into," Ricciardo admitted.

"But today I can say it's something I'm appreciative of. That one today means a little something."

Ricciardo also pitted late to claim the fastest lap of the race, taking the extra world championship point away from race winner Lando Norris.

The Australian did not earn the point for himself — only by finishing inside the top eight can a driver add that to his championship total.

But by taking the point away from one former teammate in Norris as he challenges for the title, he helped another in Max Verstappen, who still leads the championship by 52 points.

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Max Verstappen benefited — to the tune of a single point — thanks to his old mate Daniel Ricciardo. (Getty Images: Rudy Carezzevoli)

"I don't mean this against Lando, but part of me is hoping Max wins by one point, because I think I guaranteed myself a nice Christmas present if so," Ricciardo joked.

For his part, Verstappen simply uttered "thanks Daniel" when told his ex-teammate had denied Norris the extra point.

A single point may not mean much in the larger scheme of things, but McLaren principle Andrea Stella said the move highlights an issue with Red Bull and its relationship with its sister team.

"I don't know the facts, I just saw that Racing Bulls went for the fastest lap and they achieved it," Stella said.

"But for me, talk about sportsmanship and so on, I think it would be out of place. I think we have to take it at face value that they scored the fastest lap and potentially as part of a longer-term conversation, we need to put the sport in a position in which, at any stage — being it trackside or being it factory side — teams behave in a totally autonomous manner.

"Because this is a Constructors' Championship, a Drivers' Championship, it's not a coalition championship. Therefore, this needs to be definitely addressed.

"But at no point do I have elements now to say Racing Bulls went for the fastest lap to support Red Bull, I just find it a little peculiar."

Stella did say that he had "so much sympathy, support and friendship with Daniel" and he was "happy" that he got the accolade.
 
Not gonna lie I haven't watched a race since Spain, this season has sucked but I'll be attending Texas again which I'm not opposed to as COTA is a fun track and usually has some good racing going on.
 
Not gonna lie I haven't watched a race since Spain, this season has sucked but I'll be attending Texas again which I'm not opposed to as COTA is a fun track and usually has some good racing going on.
I'd the last 2 races are any indication there'll be no good racing going on.
 
And F1 media and Internet has gone full toxic over Danni getting the fastest lap off Norris.

I fucking hate when a Brit is anywhere near a win or championship it just makes everything to do with the sport worse.
I tend to agree with your assessment on the britishness of a driver being poison to most F1 discussions, but in this case, I have to join the mob with the pitchforks. It was a pretty pathetic move to deny a measly point from their closest opponent. I wouldn't be annoyed if they had pitted Max to do it, or even Checo. But to use Ric like that when they're just going to unceremoniously going to kick him to the curb afterwards, and the fact that he went along with it knowing that, just leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
 
that was a fag ass move. using your fourth car to scrape 1 point from the leader who kicked your ass 30+seconds? come on
I guess making Dany Ric looking like a retard for the season at Mclaren telling that he would drive next season while Piastri is already sign didn't work in getting good relationship in the future

Goblando had a 30 sec gap and didnt box to take new soft and secure the FL , not my problem
Sigmax Verstappen in the reverse situation box for the soft and tyre warm in front of you for max mental damage ( Austria 23)
 
I tend to agree with your assessment on the britishness of a driver being poison to most F1 discussions, but in this case, I have to join the mob with the pitchforks. It was a pretty pathetic move to deny a measly point from their closest opponent. I wouldn't be annoyed if they had pitted Max to do it, or even Checo. But to use Ric like that when they're just going to unceremoniously going to kick him to the curb afterwards, and the fact that he went along with it knowing that, just leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

Max and checo are in the points with threats on position to remove the ability to pit stop without loosing out hence why they couldn’t. Down to where it was Daniel or Yuki I’m betting it was whoever had a spot to come out in clear traffic. Daniel came out in front of Carlos ~2s and was being blue flagged for the first few corners till he started pulling away.

The bigger question is how redbull or any team can use a jr team to spoil points is remarkable as every jr team seems to be its own operation now operating independently on strategy.

Fia should look at that then some swearing on tv.
 
Oh man the faggotry extends to this place too. "Oh noes another driver dared to take the fastest lap, how dare they?" Easy, it's a fucking sport and you do whatever is legally open to you to win. Of course you take the fastest lap point away from them if you can.

Plus all that is assuming you belive the dumb ass conspiracy theory it was some order to VCARB as opposed to a way for Daniel to see out his career with one final achievement, which is far more likely.

Red Bull derangement syndrome is ruining the sport.
 
Oh man the faggotry extends to this place too. "Oh noes another driver dared to take the fastest lap, how dare they?" Easy, it's a fucking sport and you do whatever is legally open to you to win. Of course you take the fastest lap point away from them if you can.

Plus all that is assuming you belive the dumb ass conspiracy theory it was some order to VCARB as opposed to a way for Daniel to see out his career with one final achievement, which is far more likely.

Red Bull derangement syndrome is ruining the sport.
Also, backmarkers pit for fastest lap all the time. Every point matters to them and getting the fastest lap is a lot easier than getting P10.
 
"Because this is a Constructors' Championship, a Drivers' Championship, it's not a coalition championship. Therefore, this needs to be definitely addressed.

"But at no point do I have elements now to say Racing Bulls went for the fastest lap to support Red Bull, I just find it a little peculiar."
Fucking pussy. You can't say "coalition championship" that "needs to be definitely addressed" and then claim to "just find it a little peculiar." Everyone knows that RB has two teams and DannyRic and Maxipads are butt buddies. The former may have been given a send off last lap blaze of glory.

Given how cutthroat F1 is and the caliber of their competition, they should have chosen their favored son and gone for it. Right now, it just comes off as them having no confidence.

Either bring the kino or shut up.
 
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Not gonna lie I haven't watched a race since Spain, this season has sucked but I'll be attending Texas again which I'm not opposed to as COTA is a fun track and usually has some good racing going on.
Why the fuck would you not follow the sport religiously but go see it in person where it is objectively worse to view and see what is going on?
 
that was a fag ass move. using your fourth car to scrape 1 point from the leader who kicked your ass 30+seconds? come on
I'm am old McLaren fan. I have a Kimi Team button down shirt somewhere in the back of my closet. F1 is (unfortunately) a cutthroat gay ass international corporate sport. This crap was one of my main concerns the moment they allowed this shit back in the mid 00's, and its' reached it's natural conclusion. How can you possibly be surprised/shocked/angered at this? I'd do the same as team manager in CY+9. I'd not do it in the Hawthorn/Moss situation. You know, back when we were a proper culture...
Good on Danny however, whether it was team orders or not. Can't blame the guy for being a team player and/or going out on a high note. Cheers Aussie bros!
 
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