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Apparently, Aston told Alonso to let Stroll pass to try and overtake Yuki and the place would be given back if unsuccessful. As the results show, neither an overtake nor a return of the place happened.
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I don't think that was the intention, just that some sort of consequence will come from it if he didn't cuck.
However, those were very poor choice of words for someone you're asking to take one for the team.
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Despite their performance between this and Zak Brown's shitbag antics in Indycar, I'm losing a lot of respect for Big Orange.
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Cut him some slack, he just got part of his ear blown off.
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I never thought of the color synergy of him hanging with Zak.
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"Lando, remember the oath that you swore on the team order puppy..."
..."Lando, the team order puppy is crying because you won't do the right thing..."
"...Lando, I'm reading a text from your mother. She says she's really worried about the team order puppy."
..."Lando, the team order puppy is crying because you won't do the right thing..."
"...Lando, I'm reading a text from your mother. She says she's really worried about the team order puppy."
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They made "C'mon mate, he's faster than you" look dignified. "I know you'll do the right thing" really got me.
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They sounded pathetic on the radio but they are right. Lando has gotten the better strategy at most races and Piastri has always followed team orders, often sacrificing his own points for the benefit of the team.
Disobeying an order after your teammate was hurt to protect you is dumb. If he really was faster, he could have let Piastri through ASAP and then tried to pass him. There were more than enough laps left. He probably didn’t do that though because Max tried and failed to do it to him earlier in the race and there was a real chance he wouldn’t overtake his teammate.
Next time, Piastri might get the first stop while Lando has to do several laps in the rain on slicks.
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This, let him past immediately. Then chase after him. If you get the overtake then it's all fair and square. As it was he got the better strategy to protect him from behind so is fair (as far as the team is concerned) to let him back past.
If he didn't then it's likely next time the team would favour Piastri, potentially to Norris' detriment, or Piastri wouldn't be so keen to move over when Norris needs it.
The engineer is spot on too, you dont win a championship without some help from your team mate unless you are ridiculously dominant, which they currently aren't.
Oh look after all the Sky F1 "100% on Max and he's definitely getting a penalty" the stewards ruled it a 50/50
Clearly Max wasn't going to be able to make the corner locked up like that, but hambone turned into him when he was clearly not going to be able to stop. The correct course would be open the wheel and go off the track. Max probably would have gotten a penalty then for running another driver off the track.
It looks like they were scrutinising hambone more than Max for being at fault anyway.
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As a McLaren fan today was pretty kino with the 1/2 but my god the pleading on the radio was sad to hear. If this was optimal stopping time how the race leader wasn’t the primary focus. Even when you cocked it up and gave it to Lando just roll with it, now you cucked Lando and pissed him off with the team and you have Oscar a “gifted” win instead of on merit.
Both drivers are pissed at the team and instead of trying to be an apex team your showing the drivers fire to win will always be second to feels.
Both drivers are pissed at the team and instead of trying to be an apex team your showing the drivers fire to win will always be second to feels.
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On the other hand, they're right. Piastri has been super obedient to team orders regardless of consequences for him, so it's pretty egregious for Norris to not reciprocate
Since there's no big domination gap for either driver or the team, they are reliant on teamwork to be successful
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Lando was at risk of hambone undercutting him, they brought him in to prevent that but gave him the prime strategy in the process. It made sense from a team perspective to protect the 1/2 but it put them in the "wrong" order.
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The stewards put the kid gloves on for Verstappen. Streaking into that corner at visibly unrealistic speed was less blind optimism, more temper tantrum. He's experienced enough to know that move was never going to stick.
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rbr are counting their blessing than the rest of the field are too incompetent to catch them. mclaren has the better car but norris is a faggot and their strategy team are ferrari tier shit.
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I'm conflicted.
On one hand, I'm stoked that Pastry got his first win, because Aussie. On the other hand, I'm disappointed that McLaren didn't let Lando race, therefore robbing him of the chance to get just a little bit closer to Max in the WDC. Not that it'd necessarily alter the outcome at the end of the season, but it'd still be bitterly disappointing to be further away than you should be.
The McLaren win would have been much sweeter had the strategists not stuck their beaks in.
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Lando didn't let Lando race. If he'd let Piastri through instantly he would have had multiple laps to race Piastri. As it was he went on his way and only did it right at the end.
He only ended up ahead because they had to cover Hamilton's undercut for him, which gave him the favourable strategy. They could have given Piastri the favourable strategy but it would have meant Lando probably having to overtake Hamilton to get the 1/2 back. The best option for mclaren was pit Norris first, then swap them.
Don't forget how hard it is to overtake in Hungary even with DRS and a tyre delta. Plus they were finding it hard to follow eachother in the dirty air. I doubt norris would have been able to catch and overtake Piastri and only ended up ahead because of the earlier pit stop, otherwise he would have done it by the time they got to the 2nd stops.
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Calling team orders is never pleasant but McLaren managed to transform it into a humiliating charade that began as unconvincing, overly-specific concerns regarding tire wear, prior to devolving into emotional blackmail. They created a situation where Norris couldn't help but look weak by deferring to the call to give up the position. They unmanned him with a succession of bleating radio messages when it would have been better just to tear off the plaster with a clear and direct order. There would have been anger, of course, but nobody would have lost face.
This GP embodied a lot of what I don't like about F1. Verstappen, in particular, was a disgrace today. I get it, he feels the tables are turning on him, but his lack of composure was unbecoming.
The only positive thing I can say is that I have warmed to the Hungarian trophies. I didn't used to like them.
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I think it wouldn't have mattered if he let Oscar by immediately as he prob was not allowed to race him. The radio comms mentioned "think about the pre-race meeting" or something like that. My guess is there was an agreement made prior to race start, sort of like McLaren in Australia 1998. Whoever led into first corner, or after first lap, would win the race. Remember back then, Coulthard ended up in lead and moved aside to let Hakkinen past to win and Mika was glowing about having such a good teammate in the post-race press conference.
That was my take away anyway, whoever led into first corner or after first lap, assuming McLaren were finishing 1-2, that was the guy who was going to bag the win.