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If they wanted they could go full fuck the cap develop all out for next season and accept the resulting disqualification, yeah they wouldn't get championship money but I doubt they're too short on cash.
Wet practice, hopefully means a changeable qualifying.
Leclec new everything so starts at the back.
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It's also interesting, cause the race setup needs to be fixed in FP3, doesn't it? The cars will go into a dry race with a setup used in rain.
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Whatever set up they drive out of the pitlane first in qualifying is their set up (except for cooling and wing adjustments). So yeah going to have to set up the car to work in a wet qualifying that can work in the probably dry race.
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I meant the setup in terms of ride-height, suspension stiffness and so on to counter porpoising. Afaik, the cars need to do 3 laps during FP3 in their race trim and they may only use those setups that do not exceed the G-load limits...
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Hmm don't really know about that since I haven't see the full directive. If anything the FIa might need to rethink because a set up that's fine in the wet might be way too bouncy in the dry when they have higher speeds.
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Seb’s helmet this weekend. Something rather odd about it, don’t you think…
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Damn son, Vettel is on fire today. 1.33:891.
Alonso, too, very close behind. edit: Scratch that, very narrowly in the lead.
No times from Leclerc, Verstappen and Perez, most other drivers still with times they did on wet tyres... but I think you can tell the ones on top atm are the most experienced drivers, that's no coincidence.
Edit2: Latifi retires, saying he almost crashes every corner jfc
Alonso, too, very close behind. edit: Scratch that, very narrowly in the lead.
No times from Leclerc, Verstappen and Perez, most other drivers still with times they did on wet tyres... but I think you can tell the ones on top atm are the most experienced drivers, that's no coincidence.
Edit2: Latifi retires, saying he almost crashes every corner jfc
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Yeah who the fuck drinks non-alcoholic alcohol?
One time I'm going have to actually side against Vettel, does he really think work safety and environmental regulations are lower in Canada than the middle east or are third countries approved dumping ground for our sins?. Out of sight out of mind is really popular and I confess I fall for it too.
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In Saudi-Barbarian shitholes, he oftentimes does stuff for equal rights and LGBTBBQ, so it's not like he's staying quiet there, it's just a different topic.
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The problem is with the way things are at the moment any protest against any energy source is going to come across a bit out of touch. Almost everyone is suffering a major cost of living crisis caused in part by knee jerk virtue signalling over Russia man bad. We don't need to be cutting off other supplies. Yeah these things such but the truth is we aren't ready to flip that switch because all the "regular" people are the ones that get clobbered with the consequences.
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Imho Vettel is out of touch already. Yes his messages about climate change are ok but this is the same guy who said "vote Green in Germany!" while living in Switzerland and paying his taxes there. Yes good choice: vote in Germany but don't pay anything and let the people there suffer under the Greens insane policies.
Also what goes the bet Leclerc won't put a laptime in qualifying and instead will focus on building a setup which will be for a dry race? the forecast says it will be a dry race so he might not have to compromise with his setup while the majority of drivers have to.
On a side note: Mercedes installed a second bar on their floor to combat proposing. Now Alpine has protested and Mercedes has the same bar removed again. Looks like Mercedes were the only team to actually prepare for what the FIA was planning. Good thing Alpine shot that off. The rules are not meant to particular suite one team ffs.
Also what goes the bet Leclerc won't put a laptime in qualifying and instead will focus on building a setup which will be for a dry race? the forecast says it will be a dry race so he might not have to compromise with his setup while the majority of drivers have to.
On a side note: Mercedes installed a second bar on their floor to combat proposing. Now Alpine has protested and Mercedes has the same bar removed again. Looks like Mercedes were the only team to actually prepare for what the FIA was planning. Good thing Alpine shot that off. The rules are not meant to particular suite one team ffs.
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Max commented Hamilton's complaining about porpoising:
Full Article:
Source (Archive)Bumpier rides this season leave Lewis Hamilton needing painkillers to cope with headaches
Mercedes star reveals health concerns for himself and his fellow drivers
Rebecca Clancy, Motor Racing Correspondent, Montreal
Saturday June 18 2022, 12.01am BST, The Times
Hamilton said he has “definitely been having a lot more headaches in the past couple of months”
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Formula One’s three-year forced hiatus from Canada ended with the most biblical of thunderstorms and a tornado warning as the circus arrived in Montreal on Thursday. Thankfully yesterday brought the sunshine and the boats carrying the hospitality guests via the former Olympic rowing lake were busier than ever.
The Gilles Villeneuve circuit is a firm favourite among drivers and fans. Two grandstands have been added this year, such has been the demand, with a record crowd of 320,000 expected over the weekend.
This circuit is, perhaps, most famous for “the Wall of Champions”: the unforgiving concrete barrier at turn 13. Drivers navigate it with millimetres to spare but so often get it wrong and it has claimed more than a few big names in the past — Michael Schumacher, Damon Hill, Jacques Villeneuve, Jenson Button and Sebastian Vettel included.
Yet that is not the topic of conversation this weekend. “Porpoising” — when the cars bounce violently on the straights — continues to dominate up and down the paddock. No team is unaffected, but some experience it more than others. Mercedes, and their drivers, Lewis Hamilton and George Russell, have certainly been the most vocal about their concerns.
The FIA, the sport’s governing body, stepped in this week to ensure teams are not sacrificing their drivers’ health for performance, telling them to take steps to reduce and hopefully eliminate the bouncing. There has, however, been a mixed reaction to the intervention.
Hamilton welcomed the FIA’s intervention and said he had concerns about the health impact on himself and his fellow drivers, revealing that he had suffered more headaches this season than in previous years.
“In terms of micro-concussions, I have definitely been having a lot more headaches in the past couple of months,” Hamilton confirmed. “But I have not seen a specialist about it so I have not taken it too seriously. I have just taken painkillers.”
Red Bull, whose car has barely been affected, should benefit from a FIA directive that seeks to limit the amount of bouncing
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The 37-year-old said it was taking most of the week to recover between races, with “a lot more bruising” which “can be quite severe”.
“When you experience up to 10G [a high level of G-force] on a bump, that is a heavy load on the lower back and top part of your neck,” he added.
“I can definitely feel that I am a little bit shorter this week and my discs are definitely not in the best shape right now and that is not good for longevity.”
With no more standalone races, only double and triple-headers, there is little time for recovery. Hamilton has been receiving additional physio and acupuncture between races. He also revealed an urge to play retro video games and bought a Sega Genesis and the Ayrton Senna’s Super Monaco GP II game upon his arrival in Montreal.
The FIA directive has been seen as good for Red Bull, who have not experienced much porpoising and have had the quickest car for much of the season. Max Verstappen is leading the drivers’ standings by 21 points, with his teammate, Sergio Pérez, in second, and is 34 points clear of Ferrari’s Charles Leclerc in third. It is not such good news for Mercedes, who may have to give up performance to reduce the bounce. However, Hamilton said he did not think it was a straightforward issue to resolve as, for Mercedes at least, it is not simply a case of raising the car’s ride height.
“Porpoising is more about the flow structure underneath the car — so we run the car very high most [of the] season and it’s not until Barcelona that we started to be able to get it a bit lower and we had no bouncing for the first time in Barcelona, except for the high-speed corners,” he said.
“Even when we raised the car [in Monaco and Baku, to try to reduce the bumps], this thing still bounces. And we can’t go any higher, actually. We’re limited by the rear suspension now.”
Hamilton was sitting next to his former championship rival Verstappen as he spoke, and it was clear that they took a different stance on the technical directive being introduced before the ninth of 22 races this season.
“Regardless, for me, whether it helps us or works against us, these rule changes in the middle of the year, I don’t think is correct,” the defending world champion said. “I don’t think it’s correct that now they have to intervene and start applying these types of rules.”
The 24-year-old said physical damage was part of the job and that some drivers needed to stop dramatising it. “A lot of sports out there, you damage your body. Once you retire, you won’t be like you were when you were 20. Football players have problems with their knees, all sorts of injuries, and when you’re a motocross or MotoGP rider you break all kinds of bones.
“We are willing to take risks, that is our sport, that is what I love to do, the porpoising is not nice and not correct, but we don’t need to overdramatise.”
Verstappen understandably arrived in Montreal in good spirits, with his title rival Leclerc facing a grid penalty after Ferrari declared his engine from the previous race, in Azerbaijan, a write-off. Leclerc has been on pole for the past four races but failed to finish two of them because of power-unit failure. Ferrari revealed yesterday that the damage was beyond repair, with the two failures possibly linked.
Leclerc was duly handed a ten-place grid penalty after free practice for exceeding his season’s allocation of power unit components. Canada is a good option to take the hit, he said, as overtaking is possible, which will help as he seeks to limit the damage in his title hunt.
It is certainly a good track for racing and, with further weather disruption expected, a surprise result could be in the offing.
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For that matter, why doesn't Seb fuck off to FE if he's so worried about the climate's feefees?
Or quit racing altogether, what a waste of energy, so ungreen.
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He won't put in a competitive time but I think the FIA may be unhappy if he didn't even set a sector time in qualifying. Yes, he did the 107 in practice but if you don't set a time in qualifying you have to ask permission to race and their first question will be why no sector times at all in qualifying.
I'm sure Hamilton and Toto calling it an undrivable shitbox is doing wonders for the morale back in the factory after they delivered the team 8 consecutive championships. It's always great in a company where management celebrate their success but lament the company's failures.
Sky F1 and everyone make a lot out of the porpoising as the problem at merc but I think it extends far beyond that with the bouncing being a symptom of a shit design.
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OH FUCK OFF SKY.
Interview with Toto and this utter cunt, this worthless piece of fucking garbage filled with shit doing the interview goes "Do you think Abu Dhabi still affects Hamilton's performance."
Jesus. Fucking. CHRIST. on Toast. Let this shit go. I am legit mad right now.
Interview with Toto and this utter cunt, this worthless piece of fucking garbage filled with shit doing the interview goes "Do you think Abu Dhabi still affects Hamilton's performance."
Jesus. Fucking. CHRIST. on Toast. Let this shit go. I am legit mad right now.
Absolutely. I wonder how many have left Mercedes over the past years for other teams (such as RB)...
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What's up with all the weird lap times?
All this green shit is pure cope and grift because there just isn't anything that can come close to fossil fuels. Nuclear, maybe, but that comes with its own variety baggage. And of course, nothing beats just setting up a boiler with easy to store and burn fuel.
Imagine all the fuel burnt around a track on one racing weekend, then all the shit that needs to be transported to make the race happen, then all the energy in the development of the car.
All this green shit is pure cope and grift because there just isn't anything that can come close to fossil fuels. Nuclear, maybe, but that comes with its own variety baggage. And of course, nothing beats just setting up a boiler with easy to store and burn fuel.
I've heard/read commentary that slim pod cars experience greater floor flexing due having less supporting structure.