Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

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Right, now we know Max isn't the world's strongest man breaking hambone's wing can we get on with properly punishing Hamilton for running an illegal car?

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Got 'im

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Hamilton fans in cope and seeth mode on Twitter.
 
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First and foremost, this means that Hamilton and Verstappen don't crash in the first corner after the start lol.

Hambone to start from back of the grid for the sprint, not the pit lane. Hopefully turn 1/2 sorts the problem for the rest of the weekend.
A crash between Hamilton and Mazepin (with Hamilton being at fault) would be such a sight for sore eyes.
 
Hambone to start from back of the grid for the sprint, not the pit lane. Hopefully turn 1/2 sorts the problem for the rest of the weekend.
How well does the Merc handle tightly packed traffic? IIRC Bottas caused a multi-car wreck earlier this season when he lost control of his car for a split second. Then again, Hammy isn't used to dealing with traffic, is he?
 
First and foremost, this means that Hamilton and Verstappen don't crash in the first corner after the start lol.
Bottas exists and is starting 2nd...

A crash between Hamilton and Mazepin (with Hamilton being at fault) would be such a sight for sore eyes.
I wish, that would be amazing.

The coping and seething of Hamilton fans on twitter is glorious. So much "oh the FIA are just handing it to Max now" or complaining that it's the teams fault so they should be punished not Hamilton. Plus there is still the "Max broke the wing" idiots. I'm especially enjoying the "neutrals" (yeah right) complaining they should just let him off for the good of the championship.
 
I almost expect Mercs to whine that the reason their wing is no longer on spec is that Max fiddled around and broke it.

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I actually feel bad for Nikita for once.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wz96HbSHWnE
Dude has had a rough start in a shitty car and he behaved like a douchenozzle, but if he gets his shit together on track to be less of a nuisance to others I don't mind him on the track.
Interlagos always seems to bring out plenty of emotional moments each year.
 
How well does the Merc handle tightly packed traffic? IIRC Bottas caused a multi-car wreck earlier this season when he lost control of his car for a split second. Then again, Hammy isn't used to dealing with traffic, is he?
Hamilton has proven a few times that he can work his way through field (lapping traffic is a different matter), but the Merc *really* hates dirty air, it chews through the front tyres more with dirty air, the brakes hate it and I think the engine hates it, too.
Overall, it'll put some wear and tear on the car, but he'll at least work his way up to the midfield of not even top 6. Thankfully, at best he'll start from 6, even if he magically won.

Bottas exists and is starting 2nd...
Yeah, but you can say a lot about Bottas and "dirty driver" is not one of those things.

And since they canned Bottas, he has been rather reluctant to get his ass beat up by Max for Lewis. Let him past real easy last race and that other race where they deliberately put him in a shitty position so he'd start around where Max was.

I wish, that would be amazing.
Absolutely, especially if he managed to shred his new engine :story:

Yeah, I know... going overboard, but damn.
 
Hamilton has proven a few times that he can work his way through field (lapping traffic is a different matter), but the Merc *really* hates dirty air, it chews through the front tyres more with dirty air, the brakes hate it and I think the engine hates it, too.
Overall, it'll put some wear and tear on the car, but he'll at least work his way up to the midfield of not even top 6. Thankfully, at best he'll start from 6, even if he magically won.
The question will be when he encounters a driver whom he can't pass without taking too much risk. In Monza the Mercs had real trouble overtaking the Mclarens. I would assume that this might happen today too. Of course we don't know if we might get a big start crash or crashes in the midfield. It will be interesting to watch
 
In the sprint there is less strategy involved so we might see some drivers who would normally just let a merc go actually fighting for it because its not like they're going to screw their pitstop schedule or what the computer says by having a bit of a fight.

So what we're saying is the DRS here is a joke and good luck seeing any non straight-line faster overtakes. I'm sure it used to be much better at making a battle into turn 1 that could actually be defended.
 
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Going red was a bold move from Bottas and Sainz, but it worked pretty well. All around a decent sprint race and Hamilton went through the field pretty quickly.

But that radio call after the race where Lewis' engineer told Lewis not to touch other cars... ffs. I hope Max wins tomorrow and his engineer will go "Don't worry Max, our rearwing has been always on-spec, so no reason to worry about a disqualification".
 
Really enjoyable Sprint race. Quality drives by Bottas, Sainz and Hamilton. Any other time being able to shoot up the field and outpace Verstappen at the front would be cause for optimism for Merc, but not in this scenario.
That's fair. I can't see him doing that again any time soon, and at least it's not going to have an impact on the race.

No doubt plenty of Hambone dickriders are going to screech about how giving Max a monetary penalty instead of a race penalty is an anti-Hambone conspiracy, but whatevs.

Honestly amazed no one has accused the FIA of racism yet. Maybe there's hope yet that the damage done by DtS isn't fatal.
 
Really enjoyable Sprint race. Quality drives by Bottas, Sainz and Hamilton. Any other time being able to shoot up the field and outpace Verstappen at the front would be cause for optimism for Merc, but not in this scenario.


Honestly amazed no one has accused the FIA of racism yet. Maybe there's hope yet that the damage done by DtS isn't fatal.
I think Hamilton once insinuated vaguely that he might have been punished due to racism and they made clear, that he will come to regret it, if he ever makes such an accusation ever again.
 
I think Hamilton once insinuated vaguely that he might have been punished due to racism and they made clear, that he will come to regret it, if he ever makes such an accusation ever again.
Yup Monaco 2011.

After being called to see the stewards regarding the second penalty, the Formula One star said: ‘It’s an absolute fricking joke. I’ve been to see the stewards five times out of six this season. Maybe it’s because I’m black. That’s what Ali G says. I don’t know,’ he added.

He had to make a formal retraction and apology for that.

But that radio call after the race where Lewis' engineer told Lewis not to touch other cars... ffs.
Yeah like seriously? You fit an illegal part to the car and get disqualified but yeah Max pointing out your bullshit was in the wrong.
 
You wanna know what sickens me as a Brazilian F1 fan? How our local motorsports media suck off Hamilton due to him being black and his Senna fanboyism.

Every time he comes over for the Brazil GP, he prattles on about "muh Senna, muh people who look like me." And the media eats it up. The local channel with the broadcasting rights all but hails him as the greatest ever to put on a balaclava and a helmet. During the sprint race, they were all in raptures over Hamilton managing to reach 5th place. I somehow doubt he could do it on a Haas jalopy.

And if you paid attention to the broadcast, you could hear applause, and joyful hooting and hollering over Hamilton's performance. Whereas you mostly hear jeers, or a mixed reaction everywhere else.
 
Fairly enjoyable, but 20 seconds between 2nd and 3rd after 1/3 of the race just shows the vast disparity between top 2 and rest. That HAS to change next year. For the final 3 races they should make the Mercs and RBs start one lap behind or something, they'd still take the top positions but would have to work hard for it!

I don't know what happened to Gasly, but like earlier in the year, he screwed me in the game. I picked him a lot for the first half of the season and he was my turbo more often than not and seemed to be when I did have him, it was races he Sucked at. So, stopped picking him last 4 or 5 races and decided to swap him in for this weekend. And of course, he goes to shit. And of course I made him my T driver. Can't fucking win it seems. He was on the S and he fell back. Have to read up on what happened there.

With that new engine, Lewis was def fast. It will be good to see how he deals with Ferraris and RBs tomorrow. Definitely prospects for a collision if he does have that much speed to unleash. Could be some good drama again that will get the crazies who worship HAM fired up!

Also, the last 3 races are ALL night races I do believe, so that should make a nice spectacle to wrap up what has been a pretty good season when it comes to tight championship battle, but as I said, the other 8 teams are a bit too far behind. If you took 100 constructor points away from Merc and RB and sprinkled them throughout the other teams, they would still have a sizable lead over the bottom feeders.

Be interesting to see the starting tires drivers choose tomorrow. Will anyone start on a H? Doubtful in the top 15 I'd think. But be cool to see one of the top 2 teams do it as a strategy mind fuck to the other team.

You wanna know what sickens me as a Brazilian F1 fan? How our local motorsports media suck off Hamilton due to him being black and his Senna fanboyism.
Every time he comes over for the Brazil GP, he prattles on about "muh Senna, muh people who look like me." And the media eats it up. The local channel with the broadcasting rights all but hails him as the greatest ever to put on a balaclava and a helmet. During the sprint race, they were all in raptures over Hamilton managing to reach 5th place. I somehow doubt he could do it on a Haas jalopy.
Which I find just a tad bit odd given what happened at the race in 2008 when he took the championship away from Massa less than a minute after it looked like it was Felipe's. I mean it would have been better if Hamilton was in the right position 20 laps before the end of the race so Brazilians didn't have to get that huge high when it sure looked like Felipe won the title. That was so crushing.

Anyway, I thought Brazilians hatred Ham for that or was I wrong? If they did hate him, what changed their minds do you think? His driving ability, his fame or his ethnicity/race?
 
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Which I find just a tad bit odd given what happened at the race in 2008 when he took the championship away from Massa less than a minute after it looked like it was Felipe's. I mean it would have been better if Hamilton was in the right position 20 laps before the end of the race so Brazilians didn't have to get that huge high when it sure looked like Felipe won the title. That was so crushing.

Anyway, I thought Brazilians hatred Ham for that or was I wrong? If they did hate him, what changed their minds do you think? His driving ability, his fame or his ethnicity/race?
Trust me, we are a very immediatist people. We hated Barrichello over not being able to stand up for himself during his Ferrari years, and we hated Massa for his lost championship. We want victories, not good attempts. It's why, for instance, we consider any footy World Cup attempt that doesn't result in a championship as a failure (except '82, but that's another story). Also, we have an incredibly short memory. One time, we hated Hamilton for stealing Massa's championship. Not too long after, we think he's the tits for winning so many titles and breaking so many records.

Now that we have no national representatives in Formula One, we now "project" our victory desires on the guy who could at least pass off as a commoner in any backwoods city in our country. And who better than Hamilton for that, especially given his constant lip service to us?
 
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