Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

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Coccxys said:
Remind me FIA how many unsafe releases have we seen this season for this new pit stop rule to be pushed through now? If I recall all of 1, and the car never left the pits. Its just blatent bullshittery. What next, no energy drink sponsorship because they're bad for you? Wouldn't suprise me.
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I wouldn't be surprised if energy drinks end up on the same chopping block that tobacco was in the 2000's soon. There's been some noise from various nanny-staters for more restrictive sales and marketing for them.
 
The Grognard said:
I wouldn't be surprised if energy drinks end up on the same chopping block that tobacco was in the 2000's soon. There's been some noise from various nanny-staters for more restrictive sales and marketing for them.
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to be honest i always thought energy drink title sponsors were just as bad as tobacco to begin with. I just wish we could get the classic mid 90s Williams tobacco livery back. If only those social justice warriors focused their energy on middle eastern oil sponsors.

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This will always be the most beautiful F1 livery.

2nd edit: Istanbul is being added back to the calendar from October 1-3, the date of the singapore grand prix
Epic news. Hope we get to see the boys go around turn 8 at full speed this time.
 
Coccxys said:
Remind me FIA how many unsafe releases have we seen this season for this new pit stop rule to be pushed through now? If I recall all of 1, and the car never left the pits. Its just blatent bullshittery. What next, no energy drink sponsorship because they're bad for you? Wouldn't suprise me.
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The thing is... and I know it sounds a bit bad, but: Even if there was an unsafe release, I don't see the issue.
For this to become a risk, you'd have a long list of shit that needs to go wrong:
  • Failure to attach tyre correctly
  • car drives off
  • car actually leaves the pitlane
  • tyre wrenches itself loose from the car
  • tyre rolls far enough to end up on the track
  • someone crashes into it
Don't get me wrong, if all that happens, it's a massively shitty thing, but the entire chain of events is so unlikely, they might as well add lightning rods to the cars.

If FIA is so afraid of a loose tyre, why not try to come up with a system that doesn't change the pitstop itself, but rather gives instant feedback when the car moves and the tyre isn't propperly attached? Or something that will retain the tyre even when it's not perfectly set?

The only rulechange involving tyres and pitstops should be this: Free tyre selection during a race, no mandatory pitstop. If someone wants to run an entire weekend on softs or just try a no-stop on hards or whatever, let him.

All this comes with one massive caveat on my side though:
FIA takes safety very seriously and thank fucking god for that. I just need one gif to point out why.


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Originally, I thought that the Halo was a stupid idea and I could not have been more wrong about them. Since their implementation, there have been a couple crashes where it's very likely that the Halo prevented serious injury and in case of Grosjean, he would simply not be around without the Halo.
FIA knows what they are doing, trying to prevent loose tyres rolling down the track is a very good thing... I just dislike the way they want to do that and it (once more) benefits Mercedes and fucks over their competition.
 
It’s amazing how far we have come from the 1996 mcclaren which had some foam padding on the steering wheel (where the screen is today) so that the drivers head would be slightly cushioned when it would be flung forward.
 
Full Race Replay said:
It’s amazing how far we have come from the 1996 mcclaren which had some foam padding on the steering wheel (where the screen is today) so that the drivers head would be slightly cushioned when it would be flung forward.
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A piece of equippement, that's entirely underrated for being in use so long: The HANS system. I've pointed out how much of a lifesaver the Halo turned out to be, the HANS system is even more impressive.
One major factor that lead to widespread use of the device was Dale Earnhardt's tragic fatal crash.
It's still so weird watching the crash, since it looks nowhere near as bad as it turned out. It looks deceptively tame, but much like Bianchi and the Halo, it was a tragedy that lead to the adoption of a new safety feature that has saved many lives in the past.

Kubica would not have survived his 2007 crash without HANS I think. Many more such crashes in the past 18 years.
Watching footage from the 90s and up to 2003, it makes me cringe to see drivers' heads being slammed back and forth during a crash.
 
Wait what?
I'm not watching FP atm, so did he spin so stupidly, FIA gave him a penalty?
 

You did not lie, the footage is quite funny.
damn... poor Bottas, his days are so fucking numbered

RomanesEuntDomus said:
Kubica would not have survived his 2007 crash without HANS I think.
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Speak of the devil, the glorious indestructible Pole is filling in for the flying Finn.
 
> merc cry other teams are doing pit stops in a way that is dangerous.
> merc car spins in the pits with others around.

Yup checks out. Mercedes are really coming apart at the seems. If they are beaten outright by the RedBulls this weekend I fully expect Hambone and Toto to go full dummy spiting. We all know Hamilton can't handle an actual challenge without screeching and it appears Toto is cut from the same cloth. I expect a comedy of errors for the rest of the season if things stay as they are championship wise.
 
Coccxys said:
> merc cry other teams are doing pit stops in a way that is dangerous.
> merc car spins in the pits with others around.

Yup checks out. Mercedes are really coming apart at the seems. If they are beaten outright by the RedBulls this weekend I fully expect Hambone and Toto to go full dummy spiting. We all know Hamilton can't handle an actual challenge without screeching and it appears Toto is cut from the same cloth. I expect a comedy of errors for the rest of the season if things stay as they are championship wise.
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After the French GP, someone said that if RB can take on Mercs on there and come out on top, they can beat them on every other track.
I feel this week's GP will put that assessment to the test and we haven't yet seen teams really throwing out their top performance yet... but everything points in favor of RB so far.
Bottas' grid penalty will leave Hamilton fighting for himself while RB has Verstappen, who is a devil behind the wheel driving the shit out of his RB, supported by Perez, who could keep up with Verstappen and keep pesky Mercs out of his hair . . . even if you gave him rectangular lumps of liquorice instead of wheels. Dude is a wizard when it comes to pace and tyre management. You could not invent a driver more suited to the demands of RB and it is a shame Perez isn't their #1 driver, cause he deserves a title. He's this generation's Massa/Barrichello.

Im terms of Mercedes, I don't wanna make the call too soon, maybe Mercs just have had a small stretch of bad luck, one simply never knows, but Mercedes and their drivers are making *a lot* of mistakes recently and only time will tell if they'll get their shit together or not.
Ther recent track record is abyssmal: Bad calls with their strategy in France, sacrificing their secondary driver in qualifying (which leaves him stranded and useless in the race) in Baku, topped off by a complete rookie mistake by their golden goose, both their drivers simply being utterly out of their league in Monaco... it is eerie.
It seems RB got Merc on the back foot and under a lot of pressure for the first time since 2018 and Mercedes just implodes completely.

A lone swallow doesn't make a summer as we say in Germany. Mercedes might still bounce back, but Bottas seems to be in a position where his contract status next year is rather questionable and his performance so far doesn't really help him which in turn feeds the negative feedback loop of him performing bad under pressure, which is bad for any future contract... and so on.
That whole shitshow ties into RB being much closer to Mercs, meaning Mercs has to sacrifice Bottas, which again makes him more prone to errors and also leaves Hamilton without a supporting driver, once their Qualifying gamble helps Hamilton get a decent lap time, but makes Bottas end up way too far back on the grid to support LewBloo.

I'd wager a guess that Mercedes is going to perform lackluster this week with Bottas being a lame duck before Qualifying even started, he'll get a setup tailor made to act as an aerodynamic snowplow to provide slipstream to Hamilton, which will make him end up even further down the pack with his penalty and make him struggle to keep up with the leaders.

Next week won't be much better and Mercedes will need the summer break to get their shit back on track - if indeed they manage to get their shit back on track, that is.
 
I think Merc will rebound. But if the RedBull team can keep up the strong performance and what is even more important if Perez can keep up with his recent success then I see a Verstappen title coming our way. That would be great the old Hybrid era ending with another car as champion and not 8 years Silver in a row.
 
Who will score a point first? Haas or Williams? I like what I've been seeing from Mick, damn shame he couldn't participate in Q2 at France, but the Williams car probably has got more pace than the Haas... which really isn't saying a whole lot.
 
737 MAX Stan Account said:
Who will score a point first? Haas or Williams? I like what I've been seeing from Mick, damn shame he couldn't participate in Q2 at France, but the Williams car probably has got more pace than the Haas... which really isn't saying a whole lot.
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imo the williams seem pretty mixed in with most of the other backmarkers like the romeos, alpines, and the astons to a lesser extent while the hass's are truly in a league of their own right now. I think russel is more likely, I would be quite surprised if he doesn't get any points for williams this season.
 
WARNING: might just be a rumour.


From 2023 the Russian GP will take place at Ignora Drive 54km north of St Petersburg on the Leningrad Oblast.

The CEO of Formula 1 Stefano Domenicali said that in 2023 the Formula 1 stage in Russia will be held in St. Petersburg, and not in Sochi. Domenicali spoke about this at the Scarlet Sails festival, which takes place in St. Petersburg.

"Formula 1 in 2023 will be held in St. Petersburg on the Igora Drive track," RIA Novosti quotes Domenicali as saying.

Note that the Igora Drive track is located in the Leningrad Region.

Earlier, there were rumors about the transfer of the race to St. Petersburg. Moreover, the account in the "instagram" of the federal territory "Sirius", on which the race is held in Sochi, said in the comments to one of the entries about the transfer of the competition to St. Petersburg. But soon the press service of the territory apologized for the false information and denied it.

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and an elevation map of the circuit.

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Edit: confirmation from F1 https://archive.is/62fNu
 
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Oh here we go, "everytime you go past a redbull report they held you up and see if we can get them a penalty ". How about you try rising to the challenge you always say you want rather than constantly trying to get the FIA to hobble the competitors. All this Merc/FIA bullshittery makes me serious question if Ferrari engines were all that illegal when they were challenging merc.
 
Everyone in Q2 within three quarters of a second and the places 10 through 13 within like .005s.

The field is very tight, it seems. Might become a great race... though I wouldn't mind a bit of rain and wind to shake things up tomorrow.

Coccxys said:
Oh here we go, "everytime you go past a redbull report they held you up and see if we can get them a penalty ". How about you try rising to the challenge you always say you want rather than constantly trying to get the FIA to hobble the competitors. All this Merc/FIA bullshittery makes me serious question if Ferrari engines were all that illegal when they were challenging merc.
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To claim that the RB cost them 2 tenths of a second is just patheticly stupid.
 
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