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The 2005 USA GP was only a farce cause of Michelin bringing unsuitable tyres something Bridgestone could have done, just watch the post race interview, schumi is not nice in a very polite way.
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The 2005 USA GP was only a farce cause of Michelin bringing unsuitable tyres something Bridgestone could have done, just watch the post race interview, schumi is not nice in a very polite way.
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Yes. This is a whole level of farcical shit done under the guise of driver safety, even though F1 has done plenty of races in shittier conditions. If there's no actual racing involved, it shouldn't count. This whole thing is a black stain upon all motorsports done because in spite of these cars being safer than ever, somehow this generation is unable to handle driving in the wet.
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You ain't gonna get an argument out of me been watching since the mid 90's.
IMHO the cars need to be smaller and have less winglet slotty ness and minor changes to wing and ride height for weather changes. Also monsoon tyres, used to race in Malaysia in the rainy season...
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The situation reminded me of the 2002 Gold Coast Champcar race, where the track had no condition to be raced on due to heavy rain, yet the stewards gave permission to run it anyway. Almost all the race was run under caution, and in the few attempts to green flag it, there was massive accidents. The public was not happy with the shitshow.
I don't know if the logistics would permit it, considering most people would not be able to make it there the next day, but they could have postponed this race to tomorrow, or even to a later weekend.
A tall order, perhaps, but since the damage is done, the organizers could at least give out refunds to the spectators. Hambone for once complained about something that makes sense.
I don't know if the logistics would permit it, considering most people would not be able to make it there the next day, but they could have postponed this race to tomorrow, or even to a later weekend.
A tall order, perhaps, but since the damage is done, the organizers could at least give out refunds to the spectators. Hambone for once complained about something that makes sense.
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Holy shit. Looks like the 1991 Australian F1 GP lost its claim to fame as being the shortest race in F1 history. That said, at least the 1991 race was a race. Spa sounds like it was basically a couple of parade laps behind the safety car.
(I didn't stay up to watch Spa... sounds like I didn't miss much)
(I didn't stay up to watch Spa... sounds like I didn't miss much)
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Thanks to the Fanfiction Horrors thread here on KF I now know what I'm reading the next time we get a "race" like the one we've had: a 5 MILLION WORD smut fic about Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber, published 7 years ago and still being updated (with the last update YESTERDAY). May God have mercy on our souls.
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Would it not be better to send the first 1 million to the FIA with a warning that there is another 4 million to go...
Anyway Greenies BTFO'd. For this year at least.
And the rumour mill about silly season is saying:
Russell to Merc
Bottas to Alfa
Mick to stay at Haas
Kimi to 2nd retirement
Gio to Hypercars
Albon and de Vries to Alfa and Williams
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Russell will destroy Hambone as his teammate next season. Bottas has no seat right now and will probably not get one. You read it here first.
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Looks like I didn't miss much. Quite a shame, Spa is such a great racetrack, but I have to admit that driver safety is important and if the conditions don't allow any kind of racing, canceling it is the best call.
If the stewards had allowed a race, even just for a couple of laps, we'd just see a couple of guys spinning off the track at any corner, damaging cars that they need to repair under a cost-cap and then have the race get cancelled anyway. Doesn't sound like much less of a farce than what we got tbh.
Kinda weird tbh. On one hand, I am happy that Russel's little stunt netted him a podium (high risk, high reward on his set-up) but on the other, it's kinda sad that he couldn't show us his moves during a race.
If the stewards had allowed a race, even just for a couple of laps, we'd just see a couple of guys spinning off the track at any corner, damaging cars that they need to repair under a cost-cap and then have the race get cancelled anyway. Doesn't sound like much less of a farce than what we got tbh.
Kinda weird tbh. On one hand, I am happy that Russel's little stunt netted him a podium (high risk, high reward on his set-up) but on the other, it's kinda sad that he couldn't show us his moves during a race.
Wouldn't surprise me if Russel replaced Bottas while Hamilton is still active... Though he'd be stupid to try and fight Hamilton against (undeniably existing) team orders. He'll be a good little supporting driver and then he'll maybe become champion in the Merc once Lewis leaves.
We really need a "lovecraftian horror" rating.
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Will be interesting to see what happens with whomever wins the F2 championship this season. Piastri and Zhou are at the pointy end with only 5 points between then (albeit only half way through the season), and both are part of the Alpine Academy.
If Zhou wins the F2 championship, it's no biggie as he can just keep doing his Alpine F1 test driver gig whilst waiting for an F1 seat to open up somewhere. If Piastri wins the F2 championship, where does he go from there? It's not like Alpine has the luxury of a feeder team in F1. Would they replace Zhou with Piastri as their F1 test driver? Oscar can't exactly buy his way into Haas.
As for the rumours, I can see why one of the lower-tier teams would want to pick up a fallen star like Bottas (although his fall is through no fault of his own IMHO). de Vries also makes sense due to his current relationship with Mercedes; unless the rumour of Albon being Williams' number one pick has any merit to it. The same report also suggests that Checo has been signed by RB for 2022; a no-brainer when you consider that he's been Max's best wingman thus far.
If Kimi retires, it'll be sad but understandable. I reckon he'd unironically make a great F1 commentator in the mold of James Hunt, only less wordy.
TBH I'm surprised that Alfa hasn't approached Mick yet (at least as far as we know). He deserves better hardware and with Ferrari's rep for traditionalism, it'd make sense for them to groom the son of an all-time great Ferrari driver to eventually step up to the main team.
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Albon and De Vries to gain F1 seats from Russell’s Mercedes move, Giovinazzi loses out
2022 F1 season
Posted on31st August 2021, 17:56 | Written by Dieter Rencken and Keith Collantine
George Russell’s move to Mercedes next year is expected to be confirmed in the near future, triggering further developments in the F1 driver market for 2022.
Former Red Bull driver Alexander Albon and Formula E world champion Nyck de Vries are expected to join the grid next year as a result of Russell’s arrival at Mercedes.
Russell will replace Valtteri Bottas, who as RaceFans revealed previously is set to join Alfa Romeo. However the Swiss-run cars are expected to have two new occupants next year.
Kimi Raikkonen, the elder statesman of the F1 grid, will head for retirement after 19 years of competition in the sport’s top flight. In an unexpected development, his team mate Antonio Giovinazzi is also expected to be shown the door.
Giovinazzi’s replacement is understood to be Nyck de Vries, who clinched the Formula E title in Germany earlier this month. The arrival of the Mercedes-backed driver, who won the 2019 Formula 2 championship, will ensure the three-pointed star has another young racer on the F1 grid following Russell’s promotion. Alfa Romeo team principal Frederic Vasseur has close ties to his opposite number at Mercedes, Toto Wolff.
Ferrari Driver Academy member Giovinazzi is expected to retain his links to the team. He has been tipped to become their third driver and take a role in its recently announced Le Mans Hypercar programme.
De Vries was previously tipped to take Russell’s empty seat at Williams. However RaceFans understands that seat will go to Albon, who missed out on a chance to return to F1 next year when the team extended Sergio Perez’s contract. Williams CEO Jost Capito has links to Red Bull from his time running Volkswagen’s World Rally Championship programme.
Red Bull team principal Christian Horner said last weekend Albon would continue his development role with their team unless they found a race seat on the F1 grid for 2022.
F1 bosses are 'apoplectic' at Lewis Hamilton for accusing the sport of greed after demanding refunds for fans following two-lap Belgian Grand Prix farce and feel the British star should have spoken privately
- Formula One bosses are said to be raging at Lewis Hamilton over his comments
- The current champion accused the sport of greed following the Belgian GP
- A source told Sportsmail that Hamilton should have spoken behind the scenes
PUBLISHED: 23:13 BST, 30 August 2021 | UPDATED: 07:41 BST, 31 August 2021
Formula One bosses are 'apoplectic' with Lewis Hamilton for accusing the sport of putting money ahead of all else in the farce of the rain-sabotaged Belgian Grand Prix.
The seven-time world champion accused the sport that has made him a fortune worth more than £250million of greed by staging a ludicrous 'race' of just two laps behind the safety car on Sunday.
He said the 75,000 fans who were drenched to the bone should be refunded their ticket price, worth between £107 and £505.
Hamilton made a worthy point in recognising that some form of compensation is required, an argument Formula One bosses yesterday acknowledged they were looking into, but the Briton's stinging remarks that the non-event was a charade for commercial reasons has landed badly with the sport's hierarchy.
One source told Sportsmail: 'There is absolute fury internally at the naivety of Lewis's comments. He talks about handing back millions of pounds to fans, though he makes millions out of Formula One, and it guarantees his team's job, and he gives little or nothing back himself.
'He could have expressed his opinions privately rather than in the way he did, which makes no sense.
Formula One as a sport did not even make any financial benefit from acting as it had to on Sunday. It was about trying in difficult circumstances to get as much track-running as possible. The window to run a race was kept open as long as possible.
'People wonder if Lewis would have moaned if he had been on pole and won the race.'
As it happened, Hamilton started and finished third, with his title rival Max Verstappen winning from pole to cut his deficit from eight to three points going into the next race at home in Holland.
It is understood that Jean Todt, the FIA president, was particularly hurt by Hamilton's accusations, and he is due to issue a statement today defending the governing body's calls on the day.
In fairness, race director Michael Masi, the Australian who took control after the sudden death of the respected Charlie Whiting in 2019, was damned if he allowed racing to go ahead and damned if he didn't.
Former supremo Bernie Ecclestone told Sportsmail that he favoured the grand prix continuing as close to normal as possible.
The 90-year-old said: 'I would have said at 3pm when the race was due to start, let's try again at 4pm or 4.30pm. It doesn't look as if conditions will improve but I don't know. But regardless of what's happening it will start then.
'If you want to race, fine; if not, fine. Nobody could put a pistol to anyone's head. It was up to them. If I was at the back of the grid, I might decide it's not worth the risk because it's bloody dangerous out there. If I wanted to score points for the team and for myself, I might think I wanted to go ahead.
'We have raced in worse conditions than that and not called off the race.
'I remember 1976 at Fuji when James (Hunt) was going for the world championship and Niki (Lauda) decided he wouldn't race on. He pulled out. James won the title. They should have done the same on Sunday — a choice.
'People screamed at me saying the race should be called off in Japan, but I said it must be on.'
John Watson, who raced in Fuji that dangerous year and rates Spa a needlessly treacherous track, said: 'I agree with Bernie. I think the FIA were paranoid.
'In the preceding days, they had seen a near fatal accident in W Series and with Lando Norris in F1 qualifying, where he was over-confident and driving too fast, and that was factored in.'
F1 bosses 'apoplectic' at Hamilton for Belgian Grand Prix greed claim
EXCLUSIVE BY JONATHAN McEVOY: Formula One bosses are said to be raging at the seven-time world champion after he accused them of greed.
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Perez learned of his new Red Bull deal ‘a couple of races ago’
Posted on 31st August 2021, 12:07Written by Dieter Rencken and Keith Collantine
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Sergio Perez’s Red Bull contract extension was signed well before its announcement at last weekend’s Belgian Grand Prix, the driver has revealed.
Team principal Christian Horner and motorsport consultant Helmut Marko told the driver he would remain alongside Max Verstappen next year last month, Perez indicated.
“I went into the summer break knowing what I was going to do,” he said. “But obviously everyone went on holiday, so it took us longer to get it ready. I signed on Friday once everyone was back.
“We committed a long time ago. It was a couple of races already ago that Helmut and Christian told me that they’re very happy to keep me and that I shouldn’t be looking anywhere else, they wanted to continue with me and vice-versa. So it was just clear for both sides that we wanted to continue.”
Since joining Red Bull from Racing Point, Perez has scored his second career victory in Azerbaijan and took another podium finish for the team in France. Red Bull announced his new deal on Friday at Spa-Francorchamps.
Perez said he’s eager to drive next year’s car, which will be produced to a drastically different set of technical regulations.
“It’s a massive opportunity,” he said. “Next year everyone starts from zero.
“There’s no secret that I’ve been struggling with the car at times to get the maximum. So right now I can also think in the bigger picture, testing some of the things that can influence next year’s car. So definitely a big opportunity.”
“Given that it is going to be such a different concept of car with my experience there’s a lot I can influence I can bring to the team,” Perez added.
“I think coming into a project at the end of the year, at the end of an era, I don’t think the team can see much of a benefit in bringing an experienced driver. But I think going forwards for next year it will be very important having stability and experience across the team.”
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High praise from Horner and Marko, although it's interesting they stopped short of offering Checo a contract until the end of 2023 to align with the end of Max's contract. I say this because he obviously knows his place and has played his role so well. Maybe they're concerned that Checo could get sick of playing second fiddle to Max between now and the end of 2022?
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F1 without Kimi... damn, there's something in my eye.
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If there is a definitive season for Kimi, it was 2005.
Him being an absolute monster of a qualifier.
Him pushing his car to the absolute limit against all odds, only for his car to fail at the last lap.
His magnum opus of a race. He started from 17th, only to win the race by driving his ass off against all odds.
The fact he only won one WDC is due to Newey giving him fragile time-bombs in 2003 and 2005 that were just as likely to have a catastrophic engine failure as they were to win a race. Which they usually did when the engines weren't exploding.
Him being an absolute monster of a qualifier.
Him pushing his car to the absolute limit against all odds, only for his car to fail at the last lap.
His magnum opus of a race. He started from 17th, only to win the race by driving his ass off against all odds.
The fact he only won one WDC is due to Newey giving him fragile time-bombs in 2003 and 2005 that were just as likely to have a catastrophic engine failure as they were to win a race. Which they usually did when the engines weren't exploding.
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Räikkonen being a legend:
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I'd argue his most definitive moment in 2006 was him going straight to his yacht after his engine blew up.
You're not gonna see anyone do this in F1 again.
You're not gonna see anyone do this in F1 again.
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It's simply one of F1's greatest moments of all time. There's glorious victories, crushing defeats... and then there's Kimi just taking a stroll after blowing up his engine and hanging out with his bros on his yacht. No fucks given, what a legend.
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