US Florida starts turning on DeSantis

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TALLAHASSEE — Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has been untouchable for the past year as he commanded the Republican culture wars to become heir apparent to Donald Trump. The latest coronavirus surge is starting to change that.

Covid infection rates continue to climb as the state faces shortages of health care staff, morgue space and even oxygen for patients. About 16,000 people are hospitalized. Child infection rates have shot up. School districts — even in Republican strongholds — have rebelled against DeSantis’ anti-mask mandates. And cruise lines are resisting DeSantis’ vaccine passport ban. Even his recent poll numbers are slipping.


It’s new terrain for a Republican governor who defied dire expectation during the first wave of Covid-19 but has continued his hands-off approach as the more contagious Delta variant infects large swaths of Florida’s unvaccinated population.

The most recent defeat came Friday when Leon County Circuit Court Judge John Cooper ruled DeSantis can’t punish school districts for passing mask mandates, as his administration had threatened after instituting emergency rules aimed at banning mask mandates in schools. The DeSantis administration has said those districts are breaking the law, an assertion directly refuted in a blistering ruling from Cooper read from the bench during a nearly two hour hearing.

The multi-front Covid-19 battle is becoming inextricably linked to DeSantis’ 2022 re-election bid, and more broadly his future White House aspirations. The governor remains popular with conservatives across the country and in Florida, but his steadfast refusal to implement Covid-related restrictions amid hundreds of virus-related deaths in the state and rising infection numbers has the potential to threaten his electability.

“There’s no question it’s impacting him politically,” said a Republican consultant who has previously worked with DeSantis and requested anonymity to speak freely. “You can tout all the freedom and anti-lockdown that you want. There’s no political strategy for sick kids and tired parents.”

A Quinnipiac University poll released this month had DeSantis’ approval rating dipping below 50 percent, with 47 percent approving of his job performance, and 45 percent disapproving. Those numbers dropped to 44-51 when asked about his handling of public schools. The Quinnipiac poll follows other public polling that shows a similar erosion to DeSantis’ approval rating. A St. Pete Polls survey earlier this month showed 43 percent approved of the job he was doing while 48 percent did not.

The poll also brought bad news for President Joe Biden, who is the frequent target of criticism from DeSantis. Biden’s approval rating sits at 40 percent in Florida, while 53 percent disapprove of his job performance. The poll was conducted between Aug. 17 and 21, a time when Biden was facing heavy criticism over his withdrawal from Afghanistan, an issue that has kept the national news cycle from focusing on DeSantis and Florida’s Covid-19 situation.




Yet DeSantis has focused in recent weeks on traversing the state to tout new sites that deliver the monoclonal antibody treatment. The treatment can reduce the likelihood that a Covid-19 patient lands in the hospital if it is given shortly after infection. But it is far less effective than vaccines at preventing severe illness and death. The state has so far opened up 21 of the sites and the conservative media outlet One America News Network will air a 2-day series on the treatments with the title “America's Governor & Florida's Grit: How Antibody Therapy Combats COVID-19.”

“We think the thing that has the most impact to keep people out of the hospital and save lives is to really make sure this early treatment is something people have access to,” DeSantis told reporters Thursday. “Even with a massive number of people vaccinated, you still have prevalence.”

“It’s going to be part of life,” DeSantis added.

His fight with schools over masking children, however has also escalated. Already, 10 school districts have bucked the governor over his order banning schools from implementing mask mandates, including Sarasota County and Indian River County school districts, which are in conservative-leaning regions of the state.

But Cooper, the judge who ruled against DeSantis Friday, opened the door for more local defiance. Cooper not only ruled against the administration, but said that previous legislation DeSantis-championed known as the “Parents Bill of Rights” actually allows districts to craft their own mask policies.

“A school district, adopting a policy, such as a mask mandate, is acting within its discretion it has been given by the Florida Legislature in the Parents Bill of Rights,” Cooper said. “"The doctrine of separation of powers requires that the discretionary power exercised by the school board, cannot be interfered by the judiciary, or by the executive branch of government.”



DeSantis insists Florida will have a 'normal school year', despite Covid surge



DeSantis communications director Taryn Fenske said they would appeal.

“It’s not surprising that Judge Cooper would rule against parent’s rights and their ability to make the best educational and medical decisions for their family, but instead rule in favor of elected politicians,” she said. “This ruling was made with incoherent justifications, not based on science and facts.”

Infection rates for kids under 12, who are not yet eligible for the vaccine, last week increased to 23 percent, up from an average of 15 percent since March 1. Nearly 17,000 Covid-19 patients are in hospitals, far above the 2020 peak. And Florida’s nearly 1,500 deaths reported last week was by far the biggest single seven-day increase since the state started reporting Covid-19 data.

DeSantis' losses over Covid-19 policy have not been confined to land.

Disney, one of Florida’s largest Republican donors, this week joined Carnival, Norwegian and Royal Caribbean in requiring vaccines for passengers older than 12. The wave of cruise operators requiring vaccines was, in part, prompted by vaccination requirements for cruise passengers put in place by the government of the Bahamas, which is the first stop for most major cruise ships. It’s a direct violation of DeSantis-pressed legislation that bars vaccine passports as well as guidance from the federal government over cruise ship safety.

Earlier this month, a federal judge in Miami blocked Florida from enforcing the law against Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings, a ruling that gave cover for other industry operators — like Disney — to go against DeSantis’ wishes on vaccine passports. Attorneys for DeSantis plan to appeal the decision.

DeSantis has continued to use the pandemic to help what has been a well-oiled political fundraising machine. Most recently, the governor’s political committee sent a fundraising email based on a feud he had with the Associated Press, which published a story implying DeSantis was boosting monoclonal antibody treatments to help a political donor.

That story was met with a blistering response from DeSantis press secretary Christina Pushaw, whose attack on the reporter who wrote the story landed her a 12 hour Twitter suspension and prompted the wire service to send a letter to DeSantis asking his office to stop “bullying” reporters.
The governor’s political rivals are also keying in on the pandemic, with Rep. Charlie Crist and Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried, DeSantis’ top 2022 Democratic rivals, turning their focus to the administration’s response.

“Governor DeSantis has made it clear that he wants to put politics over keeping schools open and keeping our economy strong,” Crist’s campaign said in an email. “But today’s ruling makes clear that he’s overstepped his authority.”

 
Yes mr deathsentence of course lost his people. His policies have lead to thousands dead, hope he fucking rots.
Any presidential campaign of his would be hilarious, just show the people who died from his anti vax policies on repeat.
 
Gotta love the irony of people saying that they don't want people to die from not getting the jab/not wearing a muzzle are the same who want to violate basic human rights.

Reminds me of a certain man with a funny moustache, and it's probably not the one you'd typically think of first.
 
Industrial Lathe, Man The only superhero powered by coal.

So you bully yourself?


You really are paranoid about me, no idea why. I follow news from all counties when I can, if I find something interesting but not yet posted here, why wouldn't I post it? I mean that is a normal thing to do on this site.

Hell, do you only post or talk about issues from your country?

I wanted to make you right about no originality, so posting it again will do that. Also, a "no u" as well, because it clearly something you want and my last post to you didn't have it.

Hope I have made your day. Also, look forward to you never posting on topics that don't cover your country.
You glow 🏎🏎🏎
 
Why is it that people who complain about Florida never step foot in the state?
I honestly think they're jealous. Relatively good state governance (local politics are a shit show, though), good and consistent weather, low prices, low taxes, beautiful people, actual diversity, slower pace of life, more sun, more fun, more excitement (both good and bad), great food, a live-and-let-live attitude, expanding populations, multiple distinct and separate economic regions to choose from (e.g. Miami-Ft Lauderdale, Tampa-St. Pete, Jacksonville), bipartisan environmentalism, cultural landmarks (Miami Beach, DISNEY WORLD, Cape Canaveral, etc.), increasingly well-ranked schools (University of Florida is now tied with NYU in the top 30 and it's law school is almost in the top 20, which is insane to anyone who went there even 20 years ago), and so on.

And it's all been run by republicans, who are supposed to be evil and incompetent.

And, finally, despite all that, so many Yankees continually choose to move there from places like New York, adding insult to injury.
 
Yes mr deathsentence of course lost his people. His policies have lead to thousands dead, hope he fucking rots.
Any presidential campaign of his would be hilarious, just show the people who died from his anti vax policies on repeat.
Again, Florida is 20th for coof deaths, your hero King Coumo is #2, that bastion of liberalism New Jersey is #1, why don't we hear about these states on repeat?

Why is a state ranked 20th in coof deaths the constant focus of media attention?
 
Here's an idea.

People that want forever lockdowns and #maskup and endless jabs over what is essentially a stronger cold can all go to New York and California, and everyone else who wants this BS to be rightfully laid to rest can take up residence in Florida and all the other states.

But that won't happen because Covidians can't stand the idea of people not wanting to suffer and be Fauci's sheep like them.
 
Yes mr deathsentence of course lost his people. His policies have lead to thousands dead, hope he fucking rots.
Any presidential campaign of his would be hilarious, just show the people who died from his anti vax policies on repeat.
DeSantis is literally vaccinated and has been non-stop telling people that getting vaccinated is the best way to survive COVID.
Just because he isn't being an authoritarian fuckface an forcing people to get it doesn't mean he is "anti-vax".
 
DeSantis is literally vaccinated and has been non-stop telling people that getting vaccinated is the best way to survive COVID.
Just because he isn't being an authoritarian fuckface an forcing people to get it doesn't mean he is "anti-vax".
These are simple-minded individuals - as far as they're concerned if you aren't actively coercing people to get a vaccine (that doesn't actually prevent you from getting or transmitting the virus, BTW), then you are "anti-vax."
 
These are simple-minded individuals - as far as they're concerned if you aren't actively coercing people to get a vaccine (that doesn't actually prevent you from getting or transmitting the virus, BTW), then you are "anti-vax."
Same reason you're a Nazi if you aren't out there right now gunning them down at a pace that would make B.J. Blazkowicz question your empathy.... thou shalt not suffer an unvaccinated citizen to live.
 
Lol some of the virus spergs we have here now make me think that @Drain Todger deserves an apology. They sperg out more than he did, and he did it when we still knew relatively little about the virus and thought what was seen in China where people were being welded into buildings was going to be the norm everywhere.
 
Lol some of the virus spergs we have here now make me think that @Drain Todger deserves an apology. They sperg out more than he did, and he did it when we still knew relatively little about the virus and thought what was seen in China where people were being welded into buildings was going to be the norm everywhere.
He's also admitted he went overboard too. He might be a sperg, but he's an honest one.

Well, some of those spergs actually try to attack him with angry, impotent one-liners after his giant posts and he just autism-steamrolls over them. It's kind of funny.
That's highly amusing. Could we turn him loose on Menotard?
 
Na. Florida goes from rainy to sunny to cloudy in no time at all during spring and summer, especially on the coasts.
It went from sunny and oppressively hot to full blown tropical storm when I was visiting. Was at a motel with big windows when the storm hit.
 
so when cuomo killed over 10k eldery by stupid covid policies, whitmer kills untold numbers because she refuses to realease the statistics, all fine. DeSantis uses common sense and says the government shouldn't force its citizens to trade security for freedom and they all reeeeeeee! Fuck off I live in florida its fine down here, I of course can not prove it at all, as its entirely anectdotal but I've had so many friends and family who feel fine but get covid tests due to their employement that comes back positive and they have 0 symptoms. I really think its all complete bull shit and the tests are false positives, not all of them, but most of them. If a state wants to reeeee out and give away their freedoms over a virus that has a less than 1% death rate go ahead but the federal governement and the fucking media should stfu when a governor actually stands up for individual rights and tells them to fuck off.
 
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