Still a bad look when Jet stands on a soapbox about how he wants everyone to do well, wants Fishtank's community to be people who like a bit of fucked up shit but care for each other, and will always be more than willing to talk with Shinji when he was down, only for nobody from staff to have contacted Shinji or replied to Crash.
Season 2 cast sucked so hard that the challenges themselves didn't really matter to me. They really fucked up with how they wrangled them in the second season. Season 1 was set up as a competition where the contestants were supposed to endure the house as long as possible. Season 2 was clearly ran with the mindset that they were performers, not contestants. It wasn't just about enduring the hellhouse anymore, it was who could be the biggest content farm. Anything they did to fuck with each other just felt fake and gay as a result. Maybe Josie was boring simpbait, but you didn't get a sense from her or any of the other fish that they were acting outside of their normal selves. I thought Letty probably deserved the win on the first season, but honestly could not care less about which retarded puppet they chose to win the second one.
They were even yelled at to be interesting at one point. Why should production make a good show when they can just yell at the contestants to make the content for them.
At this point, I'm feeling 50/50 about the contestants for season 3, as the cast for the next season could be either better or worse, especially given the direction season 2 had
Season 1 managed to have a satisfying ending despite how tedious the final Cell challenge was a lot of the time. I don't think I am biased in any way either. When Season 1's ending is put up against Season 2's its no contest.
I think, even though it wasn't that long ago, people are forgetting how shitty production was. Absolutely no fucking ideas to make anything entertaining happen. The cast itself was fine, maybe even good(?) but there was nothing for them to do most of the time. The challenges were usually pointless, and didn't really inspire much competitive spirit in the Fish. Hell, they would STOP Fish from doing entertaining things, for no fucking reason.
The reason why I'm more forgiving of the season 1 finale is because of the hilarious Willy Wonka ending that tied everything together perfectly. You are 100% right the finale cell 2 challenge it was pretty directionless and also dragged on and on and on with only a few really good highlights.
I remember the last week just wanting it to end. I was sick of the show and did not care about the finale 3 but had invested so much time into watching it I had to finish it. It sucked.
Wrong, this is another thing people romanticize. Season 1 had...Letty and Jon that's about it, Vance on rare occasion when he wasn't trying to play master manipulator "yeah" man. Everyone else was either nontent or did stuff too rare, Simmon could've made for an entertaining character if he didn't get booted. Freeloaders saved season 1, try to imagine season 1 without tai, "lance", or fatty. Even if people dislike fatty, they were still integral to keeping the show alive and interesting and causing conflict.
This is exactly the type of shit i'm talking about. Did you even watch season 1 dude? Josie won through popularity, she was rarely fucked with or put through hard conflict. Letty endured for sure but she also put on a show while doing it. People have such a weird, warped view about season 2. You think TJ won because he was a content farm? Over Tay and even Shinji? What are you smoking
This is all I need to read to know you're a retard. kys.
Yeah they did most of the S2 contestants dirty. Jet's soapboxing about how he wants everyone to succeed and do-well and make new content creators was bullshit, he really only meant it for the S1 crew I guess. I feel like they fucked Shinji over especially badly. My wish is no more ESL contestants in future seasons if they aren't going to even try working around the language barrier.
I've already said this and very recently but how are you going to say season 2's cast was stronger when so many left so early on? JC gave up in like 5 days, Summer was too mentally ill for the show, Megan left to go play Roblox, Cole threw a tantrum so he could be kicked off how exactly is this a stronger cast? 4 of the 10 people on the show left in like the first 3 weeks how is that a stronger cast?
Because most of the others were a stronger cast: Tay, Jimmy, Shinji, Trish and Brian, whereas like mentioned before S1 only had Letty and Jon. While Cole did leave early he was a strong contestant until he broke, just like Jon. While some of them were weaker than the others they were still stronger than the entire S1 cast aside from Letty.
Season 2 started with a significantly stronger cast, and that's not even subjective, the execution is where they fucked up miserably. Anyone making particularly high amounts of content was targeted and fucked with to their breaking point, then dumped flat on their ass. They constantly told people to do shit but, if season 1 fans somehow didn't know not to stand out from Josie's S1 win, they did from that progression. They continuously fucked with the fishes' food supply with no interesting way of improving it (even the lootboxes were mostly trashy snacks with little nutrition, likely worth 1/20th of their price), then were shocked that poor diets make people less energetic and more likely to be sick. By the end, what was left were sick, tired, demoralized people trying not to be the wiggers' next cow.
This is all subjective and your taste in fish will vary but ranking Damiel below Simmons and Megan is just not accurate. Also putting fucking Cole above Letty is criminal. He was on the show 10 days.
Agreed on Cole, although the execution probably failed here as well. They probably could've milked him for content at least a week more if not longer. They blew the "trust fund kiddy vs the world" angle too fast, to a point where he obviously wouldn't have been comfortable with everyone being against him. I still don't think he'd cross the finish line, and what little was seen of him post-Fishtank seems to confirm he's not exactly a pleasant person, but skillful treatment (in general, not the shit like pampering him with an Xbox) would've likely gotten more out of him.