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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 59 7.5%
  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 91 11.6%
  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 177 22.6%
  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 408 52.2%
  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 47 6.0%

  • Total voters
    782
I think Tay looks better without the wig because she has a very weak mid and lower face. The wig really makes her upper face look top heavy and the hair frames the face and forces the viewer's eyes downward to her mid and lower face, which you can't help but notice her weaknesses. Whereas without the wig, her features appear more balanced since there's nothing that frames and highlights the weak areas.

As for what I mean by "weak areas", what makes Tay sometimes look "off" is that she has a thin upper lip and a very huge gap between her lips and nose (AKA the philtrum). If you compare her philtrum length to other women like Trish and Taylor, theirs are MUCH shorter. Tay's philtrum is about what you'd expect from a 70+ year old grandma, not a 23 year old young lady. This is part of why people kept saying she sometimes looks like a grandma, it's because you don't normally see this feature on young people. The other issue is her nose is quite big. But, it's hard to say if it's too big for her face or if it only looks bigger because of her very unbalanced mouth area

Don't just take my word for it though, you can test this out yourself by holding your hand over this picture. Cover up only mid and lower face, you'll notice she has very pretty eyes and a good upper face area. Now cover up only the upper face area and you'll see how when you can only see her mid/lower face, it looks like one that belongs to a much older woman. The issue is that her mid/lower face looks like it doesn't match her upper face area. I'm sure her years of bulimia are part of the reason her mouth area looks aged, but most of this is genetics.
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Most people don't need lip lift surgery, but Tay is one person I'd say could definitely benefit from it:
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For the record though, I don't think Tay is ugly. She's not a model but she's certainly not ugly.
 
I think the danger for Tay's streams over the long haul is that these guys eventually move on
I still think If she keeps most of the tranny hate, Chris Chan, 1488 (I know it was a joke) stuff she could still amass a decent women YT following. I think she’s got mostly the right personality to keep women engaged and the crotchet streams would be fun for her audience to crochet too. Throw in some murder mystery stuff and they will really flock to it. YT is also pushing a lot of 100 sub tubers because they’re trying to keep up with Tik Tok.

“Tay's philtrum is about what you'd expect from a 70+ year old grandma, not a 23 year old young lady”

I’d imagine the years of abuse and drug taking (I think she said she did drugs) probably also did a number on her stress can really mess up a person.
 
I’d imagine the years of abuse and drug taking (I think she said she did drugs) probably also did a number on her stress can really mess up a person.
She said she spent 2 years constantly smoking weed, and has mentioned taking various pills as well and even meth during the drug talk they all had when Delaney was there
 
Yep. Even Sylvia, who is also kinda dumb, I would say I care more about what she has to say because she's got a bit of good taste and her day-to-day is pretty unique and worth a little time to hear about, with her band practice and her touring and whatnot. It's not "I wanna hear about this twice a week" interesting but it's, hey, that's not like my life at all, tell me about it.

With Trish, it's, boobs which work at a deli. Boobs which boob boobily when you pay them money and get offended when you point out that they're boobing visibly.
(Anyone is free to jump in to correct me / call me out if im wrong on this) I saw someone mention somewhere that Brian once pointed out (possibly during his first streams/after he left the house) That Trish has either done some seriously messed up shit / got some skeletons in her closet besides the army base fiasco. I wonder if her dim but bubbly almost kid like persona (with the plushies & what not) is some kinda coping mechanism / shield ?. I could be talking absolute balls but it makes you wonder
 
I wonder if her dim but bubbly almost kid like persona (with the plushies & what not) is some kinda coping mechanism / shield ?.
I think it’s just a Philippines thing. Knew someone who lived there and to live in the Philippines you ether are poor and eat re-washed chicken or you fight your way to the top. You don’t really have time to make a personality unlike America so you end up following trends and what your “supposed to do”.
 
I think it’s just a Philippines thing. Knew someone who lived there and to live in the Philippines you ether are poor and eat re-washed chicken or you fight your way to the top. You don’t really have time to make a personality unlike America so you end up following trends and what your “supposed to do”.
That could explain it. I also remember her saying her childhood was rough (didn’t her dad call her a whore at one point 💀)
 
That could explain it. I also remember her saying her childhood was rough (didn’t her dad call her a whore at one point 💀)
Probably I knew someone close to me who was almost sold off as a child and the person who was letting her room at her place had to buy her back. Shits lawless and unforgiving there.
 
Tay had really good numbers last night; averaged 650 viewers, peaked at 800+, after 6 hours she still had 500 watching; she also made at least 550 in donations. This was specially surprising coming after her last stream where her internet took a shit and was a powerpoint presentation with 150 viewers by the end. Doing this a b series is a good idea, it's going to give her content with secured viewers for a while, even though personally I can't watch recaps cause it annoys me how they skip so many things that were important for me, but that just shows there are even more potential viewers after she's done with this type of content.

Jimmy will be fine. I think he's immune to psycho bitches by being a bigger autist psycho himself. They are the ones trapped with him, not the other way.

I couldn't see TJ's stream with the goblin, so no strong opinion. I just hope he gets to nut in her at least before she runs with the money, if that's her plan. Jared will happily raise the kid.

On the topic of comparing autists; my 3 cents: Cole is a high functioning autist, his type of tism makes him overthink things and he ends up fucking himself over; other than that he's just a regular dude with mild tism. Jimmy and Jon are more alike cause they are barely functioning autists, with Jon being even worse, almost a literal retard; they are gullible, unaware and prone to childish outbursts. The difference is Jimmy has ASPD as well, unlike Jon, aka a psycho. In other words, Jon wouldn't hurt Innocents unless accidentally due to his retardation; and the only thing keeping jimmy from hurting innocents is social pressure/norms.
 
(Anyone is free to jump in to correct me / call me out if im wrong on this) I saw someone mention somewhere that Brian once pointed out (possibly during his first streams/after he left the house) That Trish has either done some seriously messed up shit / got some skeletons in her closet besides the army base fiasco. I wonder if her dim but bubbly almost kid like persona (with the plushies & what not) is some kinda coping mechanism / shield ?. I could be talking absolute balls but it makes you wonder
I wouldn't even make it that complicated, really. She was expelled from high school because she banged a dude in the bathroom. I bet it was even the right move for her, I'm betting she wasn't getting anything out of school considering, so why not find a penis attached to some blue collar hands for money instead?
There was no secret, hidden Einstein brain she was trying to conceal for self defense. If it was self defense she would have dropped the act when push came to shove instead of doubling down and acting like a more severe retard
 
Most people don't need lip lift surgery, but Tay is one person I'd say could definitely benefit from it:
I disagree that anything should be done about it, the thin upper lip helps give Tay something of a quirky look and demeanor cannot be replicated when she does her pursed lips kind of smile. Her personality matches her face and expressions perfectly, she really is a good hearted dweeb. People have largely forgotten that beauty resides in imperfection and asymmetry, there has been too much emphasis on airbrushing, photoshop touch-ups, and worst of all instagram filters that people are beginning to forget what real humans look like.

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I disagree that anything should be done about it, the thin upper lip helps give Tay something of a quirky look and demeanor cannot be replicated when she does her pursed lips kind of smile. Her personality matches her face and expressions perfectly, she really is a good hearted dweeb. People have largely forgotten that beauty resides in imperfection and asymmetry, there has been too much emphasis on airbrushing, photoshop touch-ups, and worst of all instagram filters that people are beginning to forget what real humans look like.

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Most people that get lip lifts don't actually need them and that's why they end up look uncanny and botched. Tay is one of the few people that could get it and actually look better while still looking like herself. Her smiling right there in the photo is proving my point, she looks cuter here because the smile brings her lips closer to her nose and shrinks the philtrum area.

That said, I don't think she needs it, I think she's fine and she seems content with herself. Just pointing out why she sometimes looks grandma-ish and why she looks better with a shaved head, it's because she has a weak mouth area.
 
I wouldn't even make it that complicated, really. She was expelled from high school because she banged a dude in the bathroom. I bet it was even the right move for her, I'm betting she wasn't getting anything out of school considering, so why not find a penis attached to some blue collar hands for money instead?
There was no secret, hidden Einstein brain she was trying to conceal for self defense. If it was self defense she would have dropped the act when push came to shove instead of doubling down and acting like a more severe retard
That’s all fair. Another interesting thing is her flat out refusal to do an O.F (which is actually fair enough). she definitely originally struck me as someone who either had/ would open one
 
Just chiming in with the last page's discussion, but during S1 I didn't particularly like Sylvia but I came to respect her after the show, I think being on Fishtank gave her a boost in self-awareness to really blossom. Her tweets are usually funny and her sporadic goofy streams are really good, that one with Jon was legendary. I'd like to see the wigger crew involve her in some capacity going forward, she clearly wants to and I think her humor now meshes really well with them.
 
That’s all fair. Another interesting thing is her flat out refusal to do an O.F (which is actually fair enough). she definitely originally struck me as someone who either had/ would open one
If her family is FOB, that's probably a line she can't cross without getting some serious repercussions. Gold-digging and being mildly slutty is fine, but flat-out hoeing for cash, especially in public on Only Fans, that would bring shame.
 
If her family is FOB, that's probably a line she can't cross without getting some serious repercussions. Gold-digging and being mildly slutty is fine, but flat-out hoeing for cash, especially in public on Only Fans, that would bring shame.
That’s true. If what she says about her dad basically being a no nonsense Filipino hard ass is true i could absolutely see her getting booted to the curb for staring an O.F
 
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