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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 61 7.7%

  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 92 11.6%

  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 180 22.6%

  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 412 51.8%

  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 50 6.3%
  • Total voters
    795
Aidan said:
The cast was fine and Sam is stupid for thinking they should feign secrecy after the wave of realization swept the room. If you don't want fans to recognize fans then don't bring on fans as contestants.
Really tired of the contestants being blamed for poor aspects of the show. The fault doesn't lie with any of the fish that they realized almost all of them are infiltrators when they were all tasked to find the infiltrator(s) from day 1. Consider contingencies instead of bitching about them ruining inflexible plans on a reality internet show.
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It is absolutely a problem with Production.

All of this season had this strange 'Who is the target' thing. Like, is it Production who are the real Fish? Is it the audience? etc. The infiltrator schtick didn't have to be secret between the Fish at all. They could all have been in on a joke aimed at the audience, sworn to keep a secret among themselves to pretend to not be fans for the show. It actually worked for the first few days but the stress of being outed had a very detrimental effect on the Fish. I think Production took a very bad path with the situation they ended up in, with the rushed casting ending up with a lot of fans. In the future they are inevitably going to be back to casting fans as the show gets on, so if the lesson is; 'fuck bringing on fans'', they are really screwed.
 
attractive_pneumonia said:
Taylor got removed from her job as a card dealer because casinos are obsessive about giving zero surface for complaints from the people gambling. She is literally in the one of the worst business regarding the business wanting a clean presentation. Also it only occured within the wake of the show still being on the air or just ending, give it a year and no haters will give enough of a shit to call up another casino she works at to get her in trouble.
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Can confirm, I worked at a Casino in IT for a while. They have a million rules about anything and everything and they are all a 1 strike policy. There are no second chances. Between state regulations and bending over backwards for gamblers, Taylor had no chance. She should have known this, honestly.
 
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Jobama said:
Here’s a clip from the latest PGL episode were Sam straight up says the cast sucks because they revealed they were all fans
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Aidan said:
Really tired of the contestants being blamed for poor aspects of the show. The fault doesn't lie with any of the fish that they realized almost all of them are infiltrators when they were all tasked to find the infiltrator(s) from day 1. Consider contingencies instead of bitching about them ruining inflexible plans on a reality internet show.
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Definitely agreed. I think there were several moments leading up to the wave of realization where the cast had pieced together that they weren't the only infiltrator but there was no guidance to transition from that knowledge into "let's keep doing this, forever." Like as soon as everyone met Jimmy they all must have realized, oh, I'm not the only one. And then when Summer went nuts it would've been, oh, I guess there's three of us. Which would have been a logical time to start taking everyone aside one-by-one and saying something like, "Hey, so, the camera is off. As you can tell, ~something~ is going on with the other members of the cast, but the good thing is that the audience hasn't figured out that you're an infiltrator. We've got a whole thing on the website and once enough people send us clipped evidence of you being the infiltrator it's over for you, buddy! So keep a lid on it!"

For Sam to say, they were told to not reveal it, and all rudely decided to, is a solipsistic and narcissistic retelling of history as though 10k people weren't there to see what happened, bordering on delusion. I can only hope Jet told him a half-truth and Sam is retelling that story as a halfer-truth to try to defend Jet, and that's how they can offer such a dumb excuse.

edit: It actually reminds me of how they thought they could keep TTS and Fishtoys a secret from the Season 1 cast. The website was live before the fish started arriving. The fact Chris told Jon about it is not material to the fact that everyone who arrived close to as late as he did could've just pulled up the website.
 
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Jobama said:
Here’s a clip from the latest PGL episode were Sam straight up says the cast sucks because they revealed they were all fans
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This is just paradoxical at this point. It's highly unlikely that someone who's not a fan would choose to stay on the show to debase themselves online and 24/7 for "content" or money with no guarantees. Unless they're extremely desperate or a lolcow already (e.g. ASF). S1 also had MDE fans as contestants, even though it was much more experimental of a setup and still unknown.
Aidan said:
Really tired of the contestants being blamed for poor aspects of the show. The fault doesn't lie with any of the fish that they realized almost all of them are infiltrators when they were all tasked to find the infiltrator(s) from day 1. Consider contingencies instead of bitching about them ruining inflexible plans on a reality internet show.
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I agree with this, and it sounds ridiculous to hear them consistently repeat "let's avoid the fans next season" and claim that any faults lie with the cast at all. All they do is actively avoid their own mistakes and responsibilities and throw the people who have signed up - and are actually vital components of the show - under the bus.

Especially when the solution for the problem mentioned in the video is so simple. Set some ground rules and hold a training session. Just a single day before the show starts. Since you sign random contestants and most of them have no previous background in comedy / acting / film-making, some basic teachings on performance for the show would go a looong way to fix said "immersion issues".
 
Why the fuck would they advertise fishtank casting if they didn't want fans? They got contestants who were ready to win and proceeded to fuck up themselves, and blame them.
 
So let me get this straight guys, Sam and Jet posted links to audition on twitter to their own fanbase and then were upset they got fans as cast members? Seriously?
 
Didn't Jon complain about how working with Sam had lost him many opportunities because of how controversial he was?
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Sicko Hunter said:
So let me get this straight guys, Sam and Jet posted links to audition on twitter to their own fanbase and then were upset they got fans as cast members? Seriously?
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I mean Jet is the leader of the shitshow so I imagine Sam gave him a loose leash to pick who he wanted. Hopefully he reigns Jet in for S3.
 
Sicko Hunter said:
So let me get this straight guys, Sam and Jet posted links to audition on twitter to their own fanbase and then were upset they got fans as cast members? Seriously?
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They did it out of desperation when they were running out of time. I'm pretty sure Jet was in charge of casting and all he did was run ads on Craigslist thinking that would be good enough.
 
Sicko Hunter said:
So let me get this straight guys, Sam and Jet posted links to audition on twitter to their own fanbase and then were upset they got fans as cast members? Seriously?
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Sam had this cool idea that he does all these cult tactics, and it gets really crazy. He realized how fucked up attack therapy made everything and dropped his glorious idea.

Sam had this even cooler idea of using his superpower to turn that lil weirdo boy TJ into a true sigma male. Now he ended up with a stuttering weirdo and an ESL Jap as finalists and didn't even want to do a post-show interview because it would just show his failure as super advice guru Samvagupta Hydeswami.

He doesn't want to face that his forced ideas for Season 2 sucked, so blaming his fans who won't talk back is an easy way to avoid confronting reality.
 
Sicko Hunter said:
Didn't Jon complain about how working with Sam had lost him many opportunities because of how controversial he was?
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He, Sylvia, and Betty all threw fits because they didn't get to do season two. Betty started cutting again, Sylvia shut her Twitter account down for a month, and Jon publicly shit on Sam. It has nothing to do with optics. In his head he saw himself as the "star" of S1.
 
curbside2 said:
He, Sylvia, and Betty all threw fits because they didn't get to do season two. Betty started cutting again, Sylvia shut her Twitter account down for a month, and Jon publicly shit on Sam. It has nothing to do with optics. In his head he saw himself as the "star" of S1.
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They're all unstable. Betty is my fav of the three and you can just feel the PTSD (could be BPD I don't know) in the posts.
 
Tom Myers said:
They're all unstable. Betty is my fav of the three and you can just feel the PTSD (could be BPD I don't know) in the posts.
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I had an attraction to her at first. I dated a crazy bpd girl in high school and she reminds me of her. Her wound sharing discord is where I’ve realized her behavior is potentially dangerous. She encourages others on there to post self harm pics.
 
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