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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 58 7.4%

  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 91 11.7%

  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 177 22.7%

  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 408 52.2%

  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 47 6.0%
  • Total voters
    781
I thought the whole investment thing was a joke they played along with to abide by wefounder's rules since that's probably the only one platform that won't ban their fundraiser.
 
Osama Bin Laden said:
Fishtank reaches over $500k in funding
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The average "investor" in this sucker has spent $387 on this. Holy shit.

They've added another 50k in ~6 hours.

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Aidan said:
Yeah they seem to focus on whales to the detriment of the common viewer. Yes, whales will generate most of the money, but you need a base to keep it going and make it a "thing." I am also very doubtful they've actually accrued hundreds of thousands in a short time authentically. Looking forward to when no one sees any practical returns on their "investment" and some people complain on Twitter only to be blocked by Jet and Sam.
Granted, I'm not even a media amateur, let alone expert.

Someone brought it up to jet on Twitter but it wasn't properly acknowledged.
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Anyone who trusts Sam or Jet to keep customer data in house is naive. Even if they have best intentions, there is no chance they have proper data policies and procedures so mistakes will happen. For example, some idiot may copy and paste customer emails into the "to" line.
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I know it's functionally the same thing, but this feels even dumber that just accidently pasting emails into the CC instead of BCC line. Like at that point, you go from massively inept to retarded.
 
Josie should be heading out to New York today for the Mondo Megabits + Fishtank premiere weekend. She said she's not going to do an IRL stream after all due to a lack of mobile data but will try to record a video. At least two josiecels are going to go to the party to meet Josie in person and may be part of the video as cameramen or even on camera.
She should return home Monday.

People who stalk her on Steam have noticed that she's been staying up super late playing games. Considering the parties go from 10pm-4am each night this weekend and the time difference is 3 hours so that 4am is 7am her time it's funny if she's been preparing herself to stay up that way.
 
Swamp_Donkey said:
i posted this in the sam hyde thread but wefunder also says they are under no legal obligation to pay anyone back.

this is a pinky promise from the guy that invented the term debtmaxxing.

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I'm no crayon munching business major, but I did a bit of research into SAFE notes. To the layman (I hope I'm getting this right):

  • SAFE notes (like the ones Sam is pedaling) are basically investment terms to where your money goes into the startup as an angel investor under terms that could potentially benefit the investor if the right conditions are met.
  • After your money is invested, you cannot refund. Sam keeps the money. In exchange, you get a legal note stating that you have a stake in one of the "liquidity events" (acquisitions, initial public offerings, etc.). A liquidity event serves as an unveiling of the startup's valuation. At these points, you have the option to reconvert your shares and equity back into liquid, hopefully with a lot of interest. In this case, the big sell is that you, an investor on the groundfloor, can potentially receive 25% more equity just by virtue of taking this risk
  • The catch: if a liquidity event is never reached (meaning the company is not valuable enough for serious negotiations/IPOs or has fallen into general hard times) your money is gone. You do not get that equity, that equity has never been reached. Because there is no maturity date, a liquidity event can either never be reached or isn't reachable when, say, you need that money back for whatever reason. There is no legal obligation for Sam to give your money back if a liquidity event is not reached.
  • Think of it as putting your money in a rocket in hopes it reaches orbit. If the rocket does reach orbit, you get a lot of equity and everyone is happy. If the rocket falls short and crashes, your money is burnt to a crisp.
The main thing about SAFE notes is that they are used for startups that people believe in. The reward of being on the groundfloor and having a lot of discounted and high value equity/ownership of different features of the business can outweigh the risk if the risk of shit hitting the fan and everybody losing their money is low. IN A POOL OF POTENTIAL INVESTORS WHO ARE AWARE OF THE RISKS AND LIMITATIONS OF SAFE NOTES, THEY REALLY WANT TO ENSURE THAT THEIR MONEY IS SAFE AND SOUND WITHIN THE STARTUP AND WILL GROW BIG AND STRONG. If I told a group of seasoned and stone cold day traders about this new form of media, but it has little to no advertisement, unclear thoughts around whether or not the next season will even do well, and is run by an art major who can't even find the BCC button on an email, nobody would invest. However, these are NOT seasoned, stone cold investors, these are Sam Hyde fans. They think that this is some new investment hustle, unaware of the fact their money is gone until a liquidity event is met, a key facet Sam kind of glosses over and doesn't directly mention in his video.

Econ sperg over.
 
I remember during the show people went on and on about how ugly Letty was and even drew her super fucked and gross but she's highkey the only attractive woman who was on fishtank.
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Sam is pretty much blacklisted from mass media for the rest of his life. There's no chance he's getting institutional investors on board with any of his projects and I don't think advertisers are going to want to run ads on skits like "Worlds Next Best Daddy Dom" or "Dominican Domestic Abuse Police Robot". The only place his funding is gonna come from is his audience, either through gumroad subs, merch sales, or crowdfunding. It's been this way for almost a decade now so I don't see why people are taken by surprise by this new round of money collecting. At least this time theres a nonzero chance you get an ROI, although if you guys listened you'd be able to resell the camo Epstein shirts for at least $200 each on Grailed
 
Gotta love people who want to act professional, that don't know they should always use blind carbon copy for mailing lists.

It's like a competency litmus test, are these people able to understand what's the difference between carbon copy and blind carbon copy is? No? Then you should never trust them if they can't get the basics right.
 
Sicko Hunter said:
I remember during the show people went on and on about how ugly Letty was and even drew her super fucked and gross but she's highkey the only attractive woman who was on fishtank.
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In comparison to Josie and Sylvia? Sure. But IRL? She's average/ok. And being in FT is a big red flag, and it's probably not the only one. Also she's got an unhinged cuckold stalker who didn't do his diligence in going to a hardware store and buying rope.
 
Slav Power said:
Gotta love people who want to act professional, that don't know they should always use blind carbon copy for mailing lists.
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I'm very surprised that an email list of fishtank viewers or other information of a sensitive nature during fishtank with the competency level of Sam's pet wiggers.
 
Sperglord666 said:
I know it's functionally the same thing, but this feels even dumber that just accidently pasting emails into the CC instead of BCC line. Like at that point, you go from massively inept to retarded.
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Another edition to the list of retarded things Jet and crew have done. Earlier in the thread a person mentioned how Jet never sent emails to the people who bought season passes about updates on season two, instead they had to manually go to Jet’s Twitter to see anything. The one time he sends an email (only for monetary reasons and to get paypiggies invested of course) they can’t even put the email recipient’s names in the right line lmao

I don’t want to jump the gun on how good or bad season 2 will be, but I am genuinely curious as to how the angle they are taking for season 2 will go. This season will either be an improvement over season one where they learn from their mistakes, or they will go all in on their retardation for the sake of shekels. They have to balance the shows integrity as entertainment with money making tactics that they could take. For example, they could probably get another Josie in order to appease the simps and make money, but this gets rid of the whole random fun of contestants. That's a complete hypothetical, but since they're already trying to get people to fund the show without the show even existing in the long run it wouldn't surprise me that Jet tries to repeat some of the things that made season one unique.

I mean, how many times were season one jokes/skits repeated? This is the reason why I think season 2 is truly make or break for the quality of the show. Either it becomes a great comedic mark in entertainment history, or it becomes a gimmicky shekel producing machine.
 
We loved Season 1 for all it's retardation and shenanigans, and here we are getting it again before Season 2 begins!
 
Lowercase I internet said:
I don’t want to jump the gun on how good or bad season 2 will be, but I am genuinely curious as to how the angle they are taking for season 2 will go. This season will either be an improvement over season one where they learn from their mistakes, or they will go all in on their retardation for the sake of shekels. They have to balance the shows integrity as entertainment with money making tactics that they could take. For example, they could probably get another Josie in order to appease the simps and make money, but this gets rid of the whole random fun of contestants. That's a complete hypothetical, but since they're already trying to get people to fund the show without the show even existing in the long run it wouldn't surprise me that Jet tries to repeat some of the things that made season one unique.
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That is the main issue. Sam and Jet pretty much expect the thing to go swimmingly and without any issues judging from the recent happenings. This could bite them in the ass later. I genuinely hope that they aren't a bunch of niggers and suffocate on their own farts from the first season and are clear-minded on giving a solid show for S2. The CC/BCC sitch, essentially doxing customers, was a huge fuck-up. People usually get fired for this.
The tweet from Jet scouting houses from random retards from twitter was another big mistake. Be professional, for fucks sake. This is a opportunity that you shouldn't fuck up.
 
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