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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 59 7.5%
  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 91 11.6%
  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 177 22.6%
  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 408 52.2%
  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 47 6.0%

  • Total voters
    782
Betty once again went to Discord to accuse Jet of being a BLM supporter, says he's into doing whippits, calls him a yes man, says how they only "act edgy" on camera for their audience (???) She also brings up a woman raping him. This chick needs to be in a mental hospital.
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Foolish of me to have believed the fighting was over, I guess they're scrabbling over who the second-worst person in the tank was after Simmons.

The context for some of those Betty posts makes them stupider, I just wanted to dive into that.
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Do these retards not know what a contact sport is? How the fuck can you moralfag boxing?

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I don't remember this moment in particular, I just remember the time when she realized it didn't matter because Jon brought it up first.
To take you to the scene:
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Vance confronts Letty with the revelation that Jon double-crossed her and he knows that Letty was snitching to Jon.
Letty says she saw a note in the basement which led her to conclude that Jon talked to his girlfriend on the phone and she changed his attitude towards Letty. She starts to tell the footsie story, Vance tells her Jon told him an opposing version of the story already. Letty says she didn't want to tell the story at first because it would "fuck with his life."

It is funny as an aside that Letty's focus during this conversation is telling Vance that she wants Damiel out that week and him pretending to agree, knowing now he goes home three days later. A stupid TTS also prompts Vance to tell Letty that if she farts on his pillow it's gonna be "a serious fuckin' problem," which is lol.

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The problem here is it seems like Betty is too retarded to understand what is funny. The whole house was full of retards pretending to be black people for two days, and then they were forced to shout "Black Lives Matter!" all the time. That's funny.
If one of the fish was like actually Dontarius, All Lives Matter, take that, fucking nigger! That would be cringe. That's not "showing spine" or "defending your beliefs," it's sharting on the bit.
In order to vibe in the tank and, I guess, in life, you have to know how to take a fall when it doesn't cost you anything. If everyone is laughing at your bald spot or your lazy eyes or your rhoticism or your weight, laugh. Betty has that particular defiance disorder where everything is a fight, it was too obvious in the tank during the times she was in conflict with Letty that she was taking it all personally, to the core, she practically sounded on the verge of tears every time.

So when everyone in the apartment was calling back to the Black Lives Matter bit, she has to reinvent the situation as her winning against a roomful of liberal cucks instead of her being too insecure and petty to even say a liberal phrase ironically. So Jet made her hold the camera because she was being a buzzkill.
 
So when everyone in the apartment was calling back to the Black Lives Matter bit, she has to reinvent the situation as her winning against a roomful of liberal cucks instead of her being too insecure and petty to even say a liberal phrase ironically. So Jet made her hold the camera because she was being a buzzkill.
Betty appeals to the people at the start of fishtank screaming about TTS being too strict and Jet/crew being too nice to the fish on day 2. At the end of the day the show is a slow burn. I don't find TTS spamming nigger funny. And I don't find Betty screaming nigger over and over again funny. It's way too try hard and it's clear she does these things to appeal to /tv/ fags. The fish saying BLM ironically while acting like hood rats will always be one hundred times funnier than Betty saying nigger. Sometimes less is more.

Betty also seems to bounce back and fourth between pure hatred of Letty and appealing to her when confronted about it. She's a pick me e-girl who does the most popular thing in the FT community to stay relevant. I'm not sure if this is because she has a genuine mental illness (not unlikely) or because she's just a cunt. Either way, Betty was pretty keen on acting buddy buddy with Letty after the show ended and Letty love was at an all time high. But now that Letty hate is once again on the rise she switches up. I don't care of people hate Letty, just stay consistent.

On top of this I'm getting tired of people critiquing fish for doing sketchy shit on the tank. "OMG GUYZZZ LETTY SAID BLM AND SANG ABOUT HASHTAG ME TOO IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PRETENDING TO LIKE IDENTITY POLITICS IS DONE IRONICALLY!!! SHE WAS TRYING TO CONFUSE OTHER FISH BY TELLING THEM LIES!!!" Remember when Alex Stein got all the fish and freeloaders to do a gay pride play? That shit was funny as fuck. And yet people didn't think Stein was a closeted fag. Because it was clearly ironic. The fact that Betty and her deranged fans cannot apply this same logic to Letty proves how retarded they are. Letty derangement syndrome in action. Who the fuck cares if Letty muddied the waters during the show? That's what made things fun. Vance and Damiel told lies to Jon, gaslighting all the time, but they're based and epic because self insert.

On the topic of Jon getting the shit beat out of him, that's not really a good argument. Jon enjoyed that immensely, and was given the choice to not box with Goldstriker. He did it because he was retarded. I'd like to see Jon's reaction to getting called a retard by Hassle and getting toilet water splashed in his face. Dude would have a freakout. Also, just a reminder, Betty was a huge Jon fan before coming on the show. Shortly after the show ended Jon called Betty a slut on twitter and blocked her ass lmao. So her defending him makes it seem like she wants tard dick.

Betty does not understand subtle humor, and she will forever be the second worst freeloader. Only because Ella was on for a day.
 
On top of this I'm getting tired of people critiquing fish for doing sketchy shit on the tank. "OMG GUYZZZ LETTY SAID BLM AND SANG ABOUT HASHTAG ME TOO IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PRETENDING TO LIKE IDENTITY POLITICS IS DONE IRONICALLY!!! SHE WAS TRYING TO CONFUSE OTHER FISH BY TELLING THEM LIES!!!" Remember when Alex Stein got all the fish and freeloaders to do a gay pride play? That shit was funny as fuck. And yet people didn't think Stein was a closeted fag. Because it was clearly ironic. The fact that Betty and her deranged fans cannot apply this same logic to Letty proves how retarded they are. Letty derangement syndrome in action. Who the fuck cares if Letty muddied the waters during the show? That's what made things fun. Vance and Damiel told lies to Jon, gaslighting all the time, but they're based and epic because self insert.
I think the number of morally questionable things that even happened is pretty fucking low. Like it has to exceed certain limits in order to be really questionable: was it spite for no gain, was it non-mutual violence, was it intended to cause problems with someone's life irl? I'm completely scratching "Destroying possessions" off the list because they were never promised the safety of that shit.

I can think of a few, just off the top of my head:
  • Chris violently shoving and holding Vance and Josie during the gang war
  • Frank trying to pick on Letty, discovering she is in the basement, and loudly talking shit about her to Brandon (not a contestant, so why does he give a fuck) where she couldn't hear him and touching her stuff in ways she wouldn't discover.
  • Frank throwing the shit-covered necklace and hitting Letty in the head with it
  • Sylvia hitting Letty in the head with a vape
  • Damiel threatening Letty with violence while she is asleep (no gain)
  • Sylvia wiping her ass with Letty's clothes and then throwing them out (this falls under "no gain" because it couldn't be on camera and didn't serve Sylvia in any way, she even described it as "revenge")
  • Chris opening Letty's pads (no gain)
  • Jon during the fakeout ending threatening to mess with Letty after the show regarding Jeremy
  • Betty holding and pushing Letty when they fought with soup
  • Jon and Letty both being too loud when harassing contestants
  • Josie holding and shoving Letty during some finale challenges
  • Jon trying to rip Letty's passport
Anything else (unless it was something I forgot) was ultimately justified within the boundaries of trying to win. I'm not even putting Mauro slapping Vance and Chris on here because, even though Mauro was tricking them, they did agree to it. I think Letty could have full-on successfully me-too'd Vance to the other contestants (as long as it was clear to the audience that it wasn't true) and as long as it was fruitful and not pointlessly spiteful or something I would call it justified.
 
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I hate that Betty and her fans refer to her as a "fish". She wasn't a fish, she was a freeloader, and she was there for less than 3 days. It's like stolen valor or something.

I have no idea why people act like she's an authority on being in the tank for anything other than brief time when she was there. Other than that she is basically just another opinionated fan of the show like us schmucks.

Got to give it to Sam though, he really had her number right away.
 
Overview of Josie's streams yesterday.

Her planned stream was a collaboration with Ghetto Smosh but it didn't go over so well with the viewers. Donations and morale were low.
Feeling bad or wanting more money, she decided to do an impromptu stream and polled channel members on if it should be public or members only, ultimately going public with it. This stream was lucrative and more entertaining.

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The terrible stream is with a pair of guys from the Ghetto Smosh channel. If you enjoy niggerbabble, loud talking and a lack of creativity, then you'll love them. They plug their stuff throughout.
Viewers in the 400-600 range until viewbotting spiked it into the 4000s.
Less than $200 in donations, very meager relative to her usual streams.
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  • They plan to do Minecraft even though Josie is up front about not knowing how to play. They won't be teaching her.
    Clip summing up Josie's thoughts throughout
    • They play on a shitty Minecraft server (play.ghettosmosh.com)
      • The server ends up falling apart due to lag as people join and load new chunks
    • A user named "fishtanklive" joined with a Jason Goldstriker skin. One of the ghetto guys ponders if it's truly Sam.
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    • Their made-up goal to have something to do is "build a mansion"
      • Josie tries to build but spawn protection or something prevents it which confuses her
      • Ghetto retards barely acknowledge Josie repeatedly saying she's confused
      • The only thing Josie learns about Minecraft is that creepers blow up
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  • Errol Baer, notorious Josiecel, is shouted out for becoming a channel member ($5/month)
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  • Total TND Death now that Josie knows what it means
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  • All_seeing_Knap, a top paypig, donates $20. He needs more attention and probably still vying for mod.
    I'm sorry I cant be him....I'm sorry I can't be THEMAN. But can second and third place get sumn love tho..pweez. 5k is a tough nut to crack

  • Josie pushes for playing Wild Animal Racing since Minecraft is a mess
    • If you've ever wondered what Wild Animal Racing is, here ya go



    • As usual, when Josie's ideas are applied the stream improves, at least in mood
      • these guys are too loud and often ignore Josie so it's still rough
    • The less obnoxious guy seems to pick up on chat not having a good time but isn't able to wrangle his peer
  • They try to move onto another game but Josie's internet conveniently cuts out beforehand.
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Viewer range 600-700
Didn't track donations but ~$1,000 seems about right. theman, her whale, was quick to drop $500.

Chat reads are set to $5 so more people send in chats for the chill vibe. A winning strategy, I think. She admits keeping up and drawing is harder than anticipated but rolls with it.

Fishtank question
What was the beast meal you had in the tank?
Erm... best meal? Hmm... hmm.. best meal? Um.. I really like- I don't know. The last few days, during that last challenge, when Chris made oatmeal it was like a blessing cuz a lot of the other food was nasty and when he made oatmeal, I knew he couldn't fuck it up and it was just like... it was like a saving grace. That one really came from the heavens to give me nutrients when I needed it most, when all of the other food was undercooked fish... I was thankful for the oatmeal.
  • Josie decides to read chat and draw a t-shirt design on stream. She has music to play in the background for the first time courtesy of Bill Jobs (Youtube Channel)
    • She is instantly self-conscious about her methodology and drawing
    • She doesn't finish the t-shirt design since she felt weird with everyone watching her draw it
  • Mentions plans for members-only streams, saying it feels awkward to do 2 streams in a day.
    • She did a poll on this as well
    • Later mentions that the elf/gnome stream may be member's only
  • Her dad likes the anime One Piece. She doesn't. (people can stop asking now)
  • A video will be made from her time at Anime Expo in LA.
  • She admits to hating posting on Twitter
    • A superchat says she forgot to tweet the stream out, she explains it was intentional
  • Fishtank clips make her sad and she says it's time to move on and that it was an amazing time
  • She stops drawing the t-shirt design, saying it makes her anxious since it'll be on merch and offers to draw requests

  • theman returns with a $500 dono, Josie says he still hasn't revealed himself and has so many questions
    • She says it's almost poetic how she can't talk to him, only him to her, really
    • I think this is interesting because it means he has so far shown no interest in reaching out independent of the streams
  • Shares her two PC monitors are a TV and a cheap monitor
    • TV she's had since elementary or middle school
    • Monitor she got for $4
  • Hilariously took protein advice seriously after criticism on her goyslop
    • Plans to eat more eggs
    • Further evidence she reads a lot of comments and takes them seriously, for better or worse
  • Casually mentions she has trouble visualizing things when trying to think about a drawing

  • While doing a suggested drawing of theman (her whale) she says he must be a furry artist because the richest people she knows are furry artists
  • Someone asks if Josie is into "gothic bad boys" and she says they're a bit c-word and not her thing

  • She weighed herself for the first time since pre-Fishtank and lost 10lbs

  • "Peep what we got! We got flamin hot funnyn!"
    "It's not goyslop!!"
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  • Boosts chat reads from $5 to $20 to let her catch up and end the stream.
  • Mentions probably eating too many "microplastics"
    • Microwaved a to-go box of pasta from Cheesecake Factory and the styrofoam melted. She still ate it.
  • Briefly mentions an idea she has that will work best as an Instagram Q&A
    • Not sure if she means a livestream or general post

Josie enjoyed her time in Rhode Island



With art requests opened, chat is flooded with "Draw Chris"


A super chat wondering why she has drawing anxiety now but not in Fishtank


Chat asked her to kill Queso JJJ


Josie on male hamsters


Not good at drawing feet. If you are that's kinda weird...
"Foot enthusiasts are c-word"

All drawings done that were requested by super chats.

Chicken
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Trollface from memory
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"Essence"
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Ground Beef, Josie's pet hamster who died while she was doing Fishtank #RIPGroundBeef
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theman, Josie's top paypig
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Red Shark with loot box
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Jet as jet
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Elf vs Gnome
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Josie being sqeezed to death by a giant hand (reminder: requested by super chat)
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Robo-Josie
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Betty once again went to Discord to accuse Jet of being a BLM supporter, says he's into doing whippits, calls him a yes man, says how they only "act edgy" on camera for their audience (???) She also brings up a woman raping him. This chick needs to be in a mental hospital.
What is that IG profile in the top right of the screenshot supposed to be?

Is that supposed to be the girl that Betty is claiming Jet hooked up with?
 
I keep seeing rumors of a Simmons stream today.

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Unrelatedly for a joke people are sending Vance emails in phoenetic Chinese (because Rainier is a Chinese brand... it doesn't matter lol) and someone suggested, since Simmons has been on social media, let's ask Simmons?

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("Is this a slur?")

Vance thought this was a great idea, and... yeah
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The current plan is I think to keep calling Simmons until he picks up and if he does pick up for Vance to tell him that everyone was wrong about him and then ask him for improv advice.
 
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Betty continues her rampage of Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria, complains about being invited back for the afterparty while "politely" blotting out people's names so that the accusations are not specific.

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TL;DR: She had a bad time at a party which is the worst thing that can happen to anyone, and it's everyone else's fault!

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Tyson actually mentioned her during the interview posted yesterday and said something about how, given what went into him going on the show (his tweet, the existing content of him on YouTube that Jet could look at and the support of his own fans, Jet's reaction when Tyson said he also works as a delivery driver, and media of his own face to see the similarity) he didn't know how Betty was cast given she hadn't shared her face on public social media before.

Personally, I bet they had a few people reach out but they were looking for the most psycho chick possible to upstage Letty, and Betty had that in authentic spades.

On a different topic: Ben looks fucking terrible for 23, I don't even think Betty is accurate here
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While Betty chimps out, there is a different type of turmoil in Lettyland
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Sylvia decides to learn from her biggest mistake by repeating it again
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Wonder how long the fish tank "hype" will live on for the contestants. I don't have the parasocial relationship to find any of Josie's or Vance's streams entertaining and as far as I know Letty has pretty much just been shitposting on twitter and I was expecting a bit more out of her since she seemed to be the one most "prepared" for that type of content.
 
Wonder how long the fish tank "hype" will live on for the contestants. I don't have the parasocial relationship to find any of Josie's or Vance's streams entertaining and as far as I know Letty has pretty much just been shitposting on twitter and I was expecting a bit more out of her since she seemed to be the one most "prepared" for that type of content.
I predict it will die out hard when S2 starts. It's already petering out as it is.
 
I predict it will die out hard when S2 starts. It's already petering out as it is.
I'd venture to say it has petered, at this point. The Vance/Lance crossover stream woulda gotten like 800 live viewers if they had done it shortly after the show ended but that only barely got 100 since neither Jet nor Sam retweeted it or anything.

Part of it I think is that Sam was retweeting the fish when they'd announce a stream, for a while, but has since left them to their own devices. It's probably easy for us to say but I would have scrambled while his attention was still focused to put out merch like Sylvia and Tyson have done (although Sylvia is definitely late) and streamed as much as possible.

Someone - probably Jet, not Sam, was on the Sam & Nick's Perfect Clips commenting on Sylvia when she did her weird-ass "Simmons hunting" stream last night. And Jet retweeted her merch also. But it'll only last as long as they all stay in touch with each other, which is rapidly coming to an end.

edit: summoning the brain trust. I have a clip and I thiiiiiink I can tell what Frank says in it but I'd prefer to see what you guys say.
Context: Chris has just been turned down by the hooker. Letty has been down to the basement and returned. Frank slipped and fell in the hall, then encountered Letty and stood on the clothes she was picking out for her next shower. Vance and Josie have been heckling Chris to come out of the bathroom and try again, and Letty for being in Chris' way, or whatever. Ben comes upstairs to retrieve Frank to the basement. Frank says, "Am I in trouble?" "No." "Not even a little bit?" "Maybe a little bit of trouble."
Frank returns five minutes later in a fresh shirt and calls Alex over to the downstairs hallway, they exchange words and return to the group.


"We have to be nice to them"?
Which sounds strange but sounds like Frank re-interpreting what he has been told. He did this before during his prior visit when Sam came up and showed him "no physical contact" on his phone, he started huffing about how it was all Letty's fault even though Sylvia was the one who complained.

edit - nvm i found him blurting it out later, and the weird Sam and Frank soul gaze people were talking about. Honestly it looks like he's staring at Vance but you can't tell. Ben turns the camera to Frank so maybe he is staring at Frank, or maybe it's because Frank is laughing?

 
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Josie did a random IG Live today to play some drum rhythm game . Reached over 200 viewers at one point, a few notable bits. Driving glasses pictured.
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  • Kept Chris/Airsoftfatty painting
  • The rhythm drum set she has is $300+ but she got it free + shipping from some guy.
  • Big fumo ($1000+) , unboxed in one of her tiktoks, was a group effort gift
  • Her dad has a bunch of One Piece anime stuff
  • Doesn't seem to want to do more "slop posting" as she got flak for it
    • Struggles saying this around 34 minutes in
  • Somewhat incidental house tour
  • Cutting scars seen up close n personal
  • Asked about a job, she says she will get one if she stops making money doing "her own thing"
  • Notable josiecels in chat
    • autisticmmaguy
    • hooterhottoes
 
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Just watched a group instagram live with Jon, Taxcin, and some randoms. Tax dipped pretty early. Someone asked Jon if he will be in World Peace 2, and Jon was like, "what's that?"

They explained it's a sketch comedy show run by Sam and then foolishly mentioned that other fish including Vance, Josie, Sylvia, and Letty were on it. Jon pulled back saying there's some people who don't like him from the show who he doesn't ever want to see again.

Everyone immediately started gaslighting him like, "Oh, Damiel isn't on it, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure Josie is on it but I don't think Letty is, I haven't heard whether she is. Anyway you should ask Sam if you can be on because that would be great..."


Ben also did a live. He said he was getting fresh air because he accidentally cracked an expensive Smart TV by hooking it onto the wall wrong so that it detached and fell forward, then took it into the kitchen where Tax was and smashed a hole through it with a monkey wrench out of anger. Somehow Ben things still happen to him irl.


Sylvia did a live like right after both of them finished, she didn't explain herself but she was just recording some song in a studio and the microphone quality was fucked. And her music sucks. But we knew that.
 
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Yeah Betty seems like the biggest cow on the show, except for maybe Jon.

Here's an interaction she had on twitter after she was blocked by Jet where she convinces herself her fans are her friends and totally not orbiters, because her tits are small.
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She's really milking her two minutes of fame for all it's worth. I went in her discord and it is filthy, it's amazing how she has a weaponised army of simps who seemingly believe her victim story. Sam got her 100% and made a very smart move pulling her.

As for the others, I think Letty is doing well acting in WP2 and that seems like a more dignified life choice than streaming, hopefully it works out long term
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Letty went live about two hours ago. Here's a clip of her shouting out Kiwifarms and Jersh. She of course looks up who Jersh is before shouting him out lmao



"I hope it's a good following on Kiwifarms because I know sites like that can... well... you know what they're like."
 
So mad, lmfao! The one stream I was waiting for and she kicks it off secretly late at night.

I just wanted to pull this part out for the thread, though, because it's important. I haven't gotten through the rest:

Said filming WP2 was her best day post-tank. Sam asked her to write for WP2. Describes her role as "big." Said she was acting, all day. Letty says she wrote a "substantial" amount for the sketch she was in, seems to have written the questions that the actresses ask the daddy doms and maybe other things. Said she loved hearing the audience laugh when actresses said the lines she wrote, and loved hearing them add more improvise based on her lines. Said Sam, Charls, and Nick shook her had at the end of the day and said she did a great job, and that she looked up to them when she was a teenager so it felt amazing to be recognized.

I just wanted to put all that down in writing because we'd pieced together as much from various disparate sources and vague assumptions.

Also said she would consider moving to Rhode Island but isn't seriously considering it and doesn't want to be quoted on it, so maybe it's more accurate to say she would be "open" to it.

Edit: Someone asked when she would stream with Frank, she said "that is coming up" and that they have been messaging each other. She said it would've been this week but he is traveling.
Maybe I'm autistic but I'm surprised they can vibe, I guess it's just that she is just really fucking resilient so she doesn't care about it, but there were times in the tank where it really seemed like he was verging on A-log. I think the only reason Frank pulled off her is that production told him the audience wouldn't be satisfied if a freeloader and not a contestant was responsible for a finalist leaving.

edit: So there is this Telegram that was shouted out a lot on TTS during the show and Betty joined it at some point (she confirmed it was her using a photo) and I noticed she had some pointed commentary during Lettys stream last night
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