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[Chuck McGill]

I love the concept of sharks, yeah they are a little goofy sometimes but it creates a layer of separation between the contestants and production.

I think they should, if/when S3 rolls out of the hanger to have Sam exclusively interact, face to face, with contestants infrequently and only within the confines of status updates as well as challenge announcements, etc.
The rest of staff should be faceless and silent. The least enjoyable parts of this season was when the contestants would be negotiating with staff, clearly because they were comfortable with doing so. You can’t bend the rules or negotiate with a set of costumed, faceless individuals who will not speak to you.

I was saying this before. When the show started, I was under the impression that Sam and Jet were the hosts of the show that are openly permitted to mess with the fish, while Ben, Vance, etc. were intended to be the Lawful Neutral officials that are just there to hold cameras and make sure no one gets injured. By the first quarter, this dynamic was entirely thrown off and the other production members were about as unreliable and antagonistic as Sam and Jet. Hell, I would even say at times they were actually more unreliable than Sam. Sam will occasionally lie to you or misdirect you, but he will generally give a direct answer if given a direct question. Weirdly, I think he was maybe the only one that had any sense of fair play here, if you set aside the obvious rigging towards TJ towards the end. Some of the other members of the production will lie to you outright and keep the lie going for yuks. If they were going to start fucking with the Fish, they needed some easy way of delineating between referee and antagonist. Say for instance, a unique costume of some sort. Maybe something that obscures their face to remove the human element. I dunno, I'm just spitballing here.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

I think the real moment when Tay lost the show was when she made fun of fatty to the point were he was really questioning wether or not he should be on the show. Sam had to come up and reassure him that he wasn’t using him and he really seemed like he was being serious with him. It also really showed howw nasty Tay could be when she was saying shit like
"Your mom had fucking cancer and died. See? I can go there. But I won't."
or "At least my parents are alive and I get to talk to them. I could go there Chris but I haven't." I don’t entirely disagree with her that they’re using Chris as a sort of circus freak but I do think that Sam genuinely cares for him. If he had actually walked from the show after that she probably would have been immediately eliminated. I also think her cutting her hair for no reason was test to see how much she was willing to debase herself and I don’t think she passed it.

The problem with this argument is that Tay wasn't even interested in arguing until Fatty brought up her father and shit talked him, which is touching the third rail for her. She was trying to tell Fatty to fuck off from talking about her parents by elaborating what she could dig into but refused to. I agree wasn't a good strategy in an argument at all, but she was getting frustrated with him because she had backed off and thought all the beefs had been squared, only for him to fly off the handle in an over the top manner when she said he needs to stop getting naked and sitting his bare ass on all the furniture because it probably gave TJ pinkeye. There was a brief spat over the pinkeye thing because she cared that TJ was both injured in the ribs and then got pinkeye and felt Fatty sitting his unwashed ass on all the furniture was the cause. It ended quickly only for there to be an offhand comment from Tay about vaccines causing autism that made Fatty go into the frothing rage and this is where Tay started going nuclear because Fatty brought her father into it.

Its a big irony that TJ was in B1 resting thinking Tay was a bitch, evil, and hated him while she was arguing with Fatty out of concern for his health since she felt it ruined his chances as a competitor in the finale.

 

[laoyang]

I like Ben a lot, but I think I'd consider him a wigger like anyone else on Sam's crew. They're all SoundCloud rappers at the end of the day.

SmokeTeam6 kind of goes hard, though.

I liked Ben too until he followed Jet's downward spiral into thinking the show is about him. My ire with the wiggers is pretty much solely because they're wiggers and have the work ethic and values that come with that. If they were metal heads or grunge kids, I think we'd all like them more.

I was saying this before. When the show started, I was under the impression that Sam and Jet were the hosts of the show that are openly permitted to mess with the fish, while Ben, Vance, etc. were intended to be the Lawful Neutral officials that are just there to hold cameras and make sure no one gets injured. By the first quarter, this dynamic was entirely thrown off and the other production members were about as unreliable and antagonistic as Sam and Jet. Hell, I would even say at times they were actually more unreliable than Sam. Sam will occasionally lie to you or misdirect you, but he will generally give a direct answer if given a direct question. Weirdly, I think he was maybe the only one that had any sense of fair play here, if you set aside the obvious rigging towards TJ towards the end. Some of the other members of the production will lie to you outright and keep the lie going for yuks. If they were going to start fucking with the Fish, they needed some easy way of delineating between referee and antagonist. Say for instance, a unique costume of some sort. Maybe something that obscures their face to remove the human element. I dunno, I'm just spitballing here.

Production was weirdly antagonistic and personal towards the contestants this season, which contributed to the off-vibe in the house. When Sam, Jet, or Ben would gaslight or fuck with the fish in season 1, it never felt malicious or sadistic, it was just part of the show. Sam was neutral and professional like in season 1, but Jet and co. treated the show like a chore and were resentful towards the fish, even Vance got in on it. I have to roll my eyes when Jet and Ben get praised for working a 14 hour day while sitting down in air conditioning or whatever. People in Appalachia work 70 hours a week in coal mines for a pittance and die at 60 from black lung, so don't get so carried away with how hard your wiggers work, Sam.

 

[Chuck McGill]

Production was weirdly antagonistic and personal towards the contestants this season, which contributed to the off-vibe in the house.

I can't find it anymore and I'm pretty sure I remember it from this thread, but I recall a tweet of someone saying there was a slightly evil feeling in the Fishtank house. Not as a direct result of any one participant or member of production, just generally an uneasy vibe. I started the season feeling slightly jealous of the contestants(mainly because having so many people your age around is a rarity in adult life), but now that the season has wrapped, I'm realizing that if it was a choice between sleeping under an overpass or at the Fishtank house, I'm picking the overpass.

 

[laoyang]

I can't find it anymore and I'm pretty sure I remember it from this thread, but I recall a tweet of someone saying there was a slightly evil feeling in the Fishtank house. Not as a direct result of any one participant or member of production, just generally an uneasy vibe. I started the season feeling slightly jealous of the contestants(mainly because having so many people your age around is a rarity in adult life), but now that the season has wrapped, I'm realizing that if it was a choice between sleeping under an overpass or at the Fishtank house, I'm picking the overpass.

Betty had posted that which granted, I have to take her concern with a grain of salt since she is a BPD hole who will say or do anything for attention, but I have to agree, the vibe in the house was off from the word go, even before Jimmy or Summer went schizo. I wonder if Sam's cult idea and the bizarre Eyes Wide Shut symbolism jinxed the entire thing.

 

[Nigger Faggotson]

"Not to mention all the fake Nazi shit."

What is it with retards here not understanding that being based doesn't make you a "fake Nazi"? It's not the first time I've seen one of you brainwashed normie faggots reference this when talking about Tayleigh, completely missing the point of her saying that.

Tayleigh is based. She knows what's going on. She's woke on niggers, faggots and Jews and prefers her own kind. You retards act like there's something wrong with that because you've fallen for this psy op that being based automatically means she must want to genocide or subjugate all other races and her being friendly with the literal nigger faggot in the tank somehow discredits her in this regard. Nah nigga, that's retarded.

Let me break it down for you: There's nothing wrong with the 14 words and 88 is just a rebellious fuck you to the current pearl clutching homos in charge. I guarantee you Tayleigh doesn't think of herself as a "Nazi", that's just the gay slur you brainwashed niggers get psy opped into using on any non-self-hating whites. She's not a literal German National Socialist or some cringe wannabe neo-nazi because of the above. It just means that she's just not retarded.

So what is she? Just a high IQ white girl who knows what's going on and refuses to hate her race like everyone wants her to. That's all it means.

Edit: literally just saw someone say "why wouldn't she call DumGay a nigger to his face then"? Because she's not retarded? Why are people thinking that's something she would have any reason to do? She admitted in front of him that she prefers her own kind, that she supports the 14 words, isn't that saying enough? Honestly probably why DumGay respected her, blacks are based when it comes to race realism, but I digress. All these arguments are bottom of the barrel retard logic applied without a second thought or any real understanding. A stark reminder of the bell curve.

 

[foam rolla]

Someone as damaged as Betty can't enjoy the wholesome charm of Greg.
I wonder if Greg could fix her?

She just hates him because Greg has a better set of tits than her.

 

[The Tall Man]

You’re misunderstanding my post

It was meant to illustrate that production framing something can change a narrative.

She was perfectly fine calling Duanyey a nigger in private, but to his face?

She just kind of rolled over and listened to his orders at first.

I don't expect a skinny women to full on confront a grown man.

It is far more likely that Tay was either not a Nazi but pretending to be one to gain favor (which is strategical) or she was sincere in those beliefs but played it up to the camera, which would again be for the sake of strategy.

This is speculation, I don't know what she truly believes and you don't. Her not screaming Nigger at a 6'2 Gay Nigger illustrates nothing.

She kept the same non confrontational strategy with him like she did most of the show.

I have read this argument a few times in the thread and it's silly.

A racist has to hate niggers.

I am pretty sure most people would consider David Duke a racist. He definitely believes the White race to be superior to all other races. He is very friendly and polite with people of other races. He works with them and calls some of them his friends.

Being racist doesn't mean you are evil, it means you believe a race is better than another.

I would also like to ask, where and when did production make this meme that Tayleigh was the cringe one?

They didn't make it, like most Fishtank memes TTS came up with it and production perpetuated it.
Case in point the "Jimmy fucks dogs" sound effect wasn't made by TTS.

It's the same with the soytax.
This antagonism towards contestants that were more interesting or entertaining than TJ definitely stemmed from everyone in production wanting to believe that they are fixing TJ.

They decided with their shitty grand story arc that TJ would be the hero.
Shinji was always the non-confrontational chill guy, who managed to stay out of forced production stories.
Tay became the villain by default, the weird thing is that production seemed to have fallen for their own shitty story arc, believing Tay to be evil.
TJ was such a horrible hero that the only way to make it work was to tear down Tay, conscious or unconscious.
I don't believe this was a preplanned idea, they definitely believed they could turn Lubecooch into a man but he stayed a weirdo. If your hero is a weirdo than for him to shine others have to be dragged below the weirdo.

Wiggers starting to believe their own lies and gaslighting is pretty pathetic.

We agree on more than you think. Tay should’ve won and she got screwed over. That doesn’t mean she was a hall of fame fish.

Shinji or Tay would have been okay with me. Making the retarded pervert loose was what I wanted.

He was the same loser retard at the beginning and end of the show.

Shouldn't have lumped you in with the TJ fans. I have been the retard in this case.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

Tayleigh is based. She knows what's going on. She's woke on niggers, faggots and Jews and prefers her own kind. You retards act like there's something wrong with that because you've fallen for this psy op that being based automatically means she must want to genocide or subjugate all other races and her being friendly with the literal nigger faggot in the tank somehow discredits her in this regard. Nah nigga, that's retarded.

Tay and Danye were talking at the bar at one point around 3-5am and the topic came up at TTS prodding. What Tay described her views as would likely be more likened to racial profiling, she has a template of each racial group and what to expect from them and some of these groups she wants to keep as far away from her as possible as they bring nothing but trouble, when Danye obviously wasn't some niggerish thug, she warmed up instantly to him. Danye didn't even disagree with her logic, he said the way Tay thinks is entirely normal and its how he operates as well to an extent. Hell, Danye probably slung more racist insults and made racial stereotype arguments than anyone in the house, even more than Jimmy. Charleston was closer to the thug template that she was expecting but since the guy was just walking around having fun, and trying to tell jokes or rile them up she didn't feel compelled to be overtly hostile, just wary, which is why she kept her eyes open in the bunk almost the entire night while TTS was riling Charleston up and dropping some of the most hilarious bits in the entire season.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

Who could have possibly seen that coming?

unironically i wouldn't have. unless someone was watching and clipped it immediately and doxxed her like a psycho how the fuck would that have been possible. Then there's the whole your employer somehow knowing or caring about what you did on a streaming show as a white girl who works a trashy job at a casino. Every woman in there has probably gotten fucked on camera before.

. Stein said season 3 fish are all going to be influencers.

you mean the only group of people extremely likely to know who Sam Hyde is? great. can't wait for another Season 2 situation where half the cast leaves extremely early so the show just spins its wheels the rest of the season because they're too afraid of the rest leaving.

, they are all sick and taking their sweet time"

It really is like they brought someone from 2014 onto the show. He's exactly the type of guy to go "they targeted gamers" there's a reason people here love him. Its almost like they brought on Kip from napoleon dynamite.

Imagine not realizing immediate that it's a fucking joke, holy shit

i mean the alternative is letting jet, Jet it up again.

She flashed her tiny boobs and

thats literally enough for some men.

 

[luigismanslave]

I was saying this before. When the show started, I was under the impression that Sam and Jet were the hosts of the show that are openly permitted to mess with the fish, while Ben, Vance, etc. were intended to be the Lawful Neutral officials that are just there to hold cameras and make sure no one gets injured. By the first quarter, this dynamic was entirely thrown off and the other production members were about as unreliable and antagonistic as Sam and Jet. Hell, I would even say at times they were actually more unreliable than Sam. Sam will occasionally lie to you or misdirect you, but he will generally give a direct answer if given a direct question. Weirdly, I think he was maybe the only one that had any sense of fair play here, if you set aside the obvious rigging towards TJ towards the end. Some of the other members of the production will lie to you outright and keep the lie going for yuks. If they were going to start fucking with the Fish, they needed some easy way of delineating between referee and antagonist. Say for instance, a unique costume of some sort. Maybe something that obscures their face to remove the human element. I dunno, I'm just spitballing here.

all the wiggers wanna play badcop but forget you need a good cop for that to work. they just needed to assign the more trustworthy wiggers to be good cops that reliably explain rules and address serious concerns. if you're gonna have ben rambling insane stories to fuck with the fish you also need someone who can sit them down and address their concerns when reddit jimmy throws a chair at them.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

"I still haven't gotten paid yet, they are all sick and taking their sweet time"

I wouldn't shit too hard on production on this, its been all of two days since the show ended and they probably need to let the accounts reconcile before they can start writing checks, often times this can take 2-3 days before everything is settled with the bank. At the bare minimum they needed to wait until Monday to take the money crate to a bank and deposit it back into the business account.

 

[Nigger Faggotson]

Being racist doesn't mean you are evil, it means you believe a race is better than another.

It's a low bar. Just believing that races exist, or acting like they do, is racist now. Same as preferring your own race over others, you don't have to even consider one superior, you just need to have your own personal preference and that makes you racist. Hell, I don't even hate black people yet I bet you everyone would call me racist because I say nigger out of spite to those who wish to control language.

This is speculation, I don't know what she truly believes and you don't. Her not screaming Nigger at a 6'2 Gay Nigger illustrates nothing.

The things she's said on the tank gives us an idea of her thoughts and beliefs. We know she hates faggotry and sees them as predators, that she doesn't like niggers hating on whites, that she knows that the Jewish mafia is in control of most nations and institutions, that mainstream WW2 history is allied propaganda. I don't believe she was lying or performing when she said those things; she strikes me as all round being pretty genuine.

And yeah, you can be civil with individuals while acknowledging the realities of group statistics. Hell, you can even be civil with people you don't like. European society 200 years ago was the height of manners and etiquette; that shit is in our blood, no matter how propagandised and psy opped we get. There's a reason why behaviours track with group statistics. Race is genetic and so is a large component of your personality and behaviour.

Totally agreed with the rest of your takes, btw.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

that mainstream WW2 history is allied propaganda.

This is your brain on /pol/ info-graphics. What a fucking retard.

 

[luigismanslave]

It's a low bar. Just believing that races exist, or acting like they do, is racist now. Same as preferring your own race over others, you don't have to even consider one superior, you just need to have your own personal preference and that makes you racist. Hell, I don't even hate black people yet I bet you everyone would call me racist because I say nigger out of spite to those who wish to control language.


The things she's said on the tank gives us an idea of her thoughts and beliefs. We know she hates faggotry and sees them as predators, that she doesn't like niggers hating on whites, that she knows that the Jewish mafia is in control of most nations and institutions, that mainstream WW2 history is allied propaganda. I don't believe she was lying or performing when she said those things; she strikes me as all round being pretty genuine.

And yeah, you can be civil with individuals while acknowledging the realities of group statistics. Hell, you can even be civil with people you don't like. European society 200 years ago was the height of manners and etiquette; that shit is in our blood, no matter how propagandised and psy opped we get. There's a reason why behaviours track with group statistics. Race is genetic and so is a large component of your personality and behaviour.

Totally agreed with the rest of your takes, btw.

sir, this is the fishtank thread

edit:

 

[Nigger Faggotson]

This is your brain on /pol/ info-graphics. What a fucking retard.

Imagine disagreeing with the idea that the victor determines what's written in the history books. Or questioning basic maths.

sir, this is the fishtank thread

Hence the discussion of Tayleigh and her views. Though if by that you meant that there are literal brain washed retards present, I won't argue with that.

Looking forward to seeing how the wiggers fuck up season 3.

 

[luigismanslave]

Imagine disagreeing with the idea that the victor determines what's written in the history books. Or questioning basic maths.

Hence the discussion of Tayleigh and her views. Though if by that you meant that there are literal brain washed retards present, I won't argue with that.

Looking forward to seeing how the wiggers fuck up season 3.

There's talking about Tay's views, and there's getting derailed with full 1488 talk in the middle of whatever thread you happen to be in.

also since we're offtopic shitflinging anyway, flat earth is a psyop used to lump people who point out every enemy of the clinton dies in a mysterious car crash with tards who... believe in flat earth.

 

[FailurePersonifiedV2]

Typically I would say "just get off the internet" but for Zoomers that grew up with the internet and were taught that its a necessity of life, I don't think the solution would be as simple as telling them to go off cold turkey. Not to imply that that was what you were getting at.

You’re correct.

I mean like “get off the Internet” in the sense that I would myself. Which mostly just means avoid social media (outside of family/friends) and avoid the news or anything that gets the blood moving.

It is concerning that I can easily go without using the Internet for a week though people even 6 yrs younger than me go through withdrawal if they don’t doomscroll for two-three days.

 

[foam rolla]

all the wiggers wanna play badcop but forget you need a good cop for that to work. they just needed to assign the more trustworthy wiggers to be good cops that reliably explain rules and address serious concerns. if you're gonna have ben rambling insane stories to fuck with the fish you also need someone who can sit them down and address their concerns when reddit jimmy throws a chair at them.

Agreed. Last season Jet was more neutral and Ben was neutral most of the time but then would play the bits where he's trauma dumping on the Fish or telling them how he's jealous of them.
In S2 they're both hostile towards the fish. Bens general attitude seemed to blur more from doing a bit to making you wonder if he actually doesn't like the contestants. Even Vance seemed indifferent towards the end. Plus you had Airsoft Fatty coming in from the get go and telling them how they're all shit and not as good as S1. But he's a obese NEET so no one is going to take him seriously.

The only staff who were positive to the fish were Scott, Chris Lynch and Sams weight lifting coach. But they had limited time with the fish. Also Sam was more positive than production. And if anyone should be antagonistic, it should be him. This is why I'd rather have the sharks back in being a faceless antagonists and Jet and Co so back into the basement and only come out to give challenges and cig deliveries. At least then Jet can just sit in the basement and smoke like he wants to.

 

[Karen Horney]

Here's something funny I didn't see mentioned in the thread, Tay handed her paintball gun off to Frank for a second and he almost shot Judge who had to wrestle it away from him. Video should be timestamped to 24:28.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGYAkMZDdVo&t=1468s

There's another clip I've been looking for but can't find, just after Tay was kicked Jet talked to the camera in bedroom 1 for a bit, but I only heard the last couple words where he called her the most serious contestant. Does anyone have that?

Also, trying to find these two clips convinced me production is getting their ideas from youtube. Catching a glimpse of the comment section gave me eye cancer.

Also Sam was more positive than production.

It was so weird how you could actually see the fish calm down when Sam showed up.