US First Democratic Debates - Night one discussion ends at pg41

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Welcome to day 2 of the democratic primary debates, tonight will feature:

Joe Biden, former vice president, establishment choice and likes to sniff women
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Andrew Yang, entrepreneur and reddit incarnate
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Bernie Sanders, senator from Vermont
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Marianne Williamson, self-help author and totally wacko
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Pete Buttigieg, homo mayor of South Bend, Ind.
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Michael Bennet, senator from Colorado
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Kamala Harris, senator from California
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John Hickenlooper, former governor of Colorado and watched "Deep Throat" with his mom in theaters when he was 20yo
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Kirsten Gillibrand, senator from New York and #MeToo internet activist
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Eric Swalwell, representative from California
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Bernie prestream: https://live.berniesanders.com/
NBC livestream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX7hni-zGD8
Backup stream:

A new poll will be posted after the debates are done (without Trump this time for clarification), polling result from the first night:
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Thanks to @Top Skink for getting the party started
 
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So we have a
White Chick pretending to be Native American
White Dude Pretending to be Black
Irish Dude pretending to be Mexican
Commie Dude pretending to be American
Stoned Dude
And a bunch of people that Americans have no idea who the fuck they are, and will never be bothered to try and answer that question.

Wow! It's 1972 all over again!

It's like the clone debate ftom Futurama. They all sound identical.

Even Futurama realized Nixon would win that. And in this context Trump is Nixon


To quote a lesson taught me in College by the late Democratic Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan. Legendarily the smartest man in the Senate. And one of the few that would actually do the math of any proposal. A Society has a choice; Social Welfare, such as Single Payer Healthcare, or open and largely unrestricted Immigration. You can't have both. Social Welfare only works if you have a near zero population delta. And you can see the wheels coming off many of the long established Social Welfare States in Europe as they have been forced to absorb millions of immigrants. The US for it's history has been one of the worlds largest recipients of immigrants. A side effect of that is it would quickly unbalance and swamp any attempts at broader social welfare.
 
It's appeal to emotion after appeal to emotion. "Illegal immigrants die and shit, let's massively damage our border policies"
 
Cory Booker whining about people "criminalizing immigration".



we must warn you that it's not criminalizing immigration...it is illegal immigration
 
Get that river that killed that mexican and his spawn!
 
Another good point lost in the mess. America doesn't know how to handle immigration, mental illness or addiction.
 
Trump threatened me by making me live up to my policies. What's wrong, Jay?
 
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