Fire Emblem series

[The Zekenator]

Is it really an error if it's intentional?

I mean a good portion of spotty translations/localization issues are intentional if we want to be technical, Saizo and Beruka's C support was an artistic choice even if it sucks. The infamous "jelly doughnuts" in the very old Pokemon anime were an intentional choice. I'd consider these all errors in that it improperly represents what the original text was trying to say by marring it with the localizer's own perspectives and wants. It is like taking someone's book and editing it yourself because you don't like certain things that was in it, but saying you're representing the story as it was intended in English.

 

[Ceiling Kitten]

I can't confirm this but I heard that in Blazing Blade Lyndis's supports with whatever that purple haired Pegasus knight is named are more platonic/sisterly in the JP version whereas in the North American version she wants to dive between here legs.

Anyone know if that's true? I've only played the english version.

First time I heard about the Lyn/Florina stuff. I always thought their relationship could be seen in either way, so whatever.

I do remember that they mistranslated Guy and Priscilla's ending: in ENG it's said he left her bc she's a noble and she wept for it, whereas in the original JPN they eloped together. https://kantopia.wordpress.com/2020...-with-priscilla-in-the-jp-version-jpn-vs-eng/

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

I just realized it's not Valerie Arem directing. Its Patrick Seitz. Val is a one trick pony.

 

[cat merchant]

The biggest thing that I recall is, and this is arguable as it really depends on who you ask, that Edelgard was a little more overly aggressive and crazy in 3H because Edelgard is not a very PC or pozzed character so the theory is that the translators made her more bad then she was intended. It isn't really a huge deal from what I remember unless you're a massive Edelgard enjoyer or something, and Edelgard is so controversial that unless you really know how to read moon you won't really know how true those statements unless you do the legwork yourself.

Claude's characterization I recall being kind of fucked because he's hinted at being more passive aggressive and pessimistic in JP, someone who talks about a lot of things he wants to believe but can't really bring himself to believe for most the game. He's like a strange take on the whole "We will stand together my friends!" attitude you see a lot with protagonists in war stories, because it is implied that he doesn't really believe in all that but he says it for his own personal ambitions and as a way to peep talk himself. He's the type who feels like he doesn't really have the same solid convictions as the other lords until the end of the story where he is willing to take a big risk to win the day when in the past he might have run away or hesitated, which a nice contrast from Edelgard and Dimitri who are very conviction driven from the start.

In EN he's more upbeat, snarky, and goody goody to be less offensive I guess. Claude's actions don't change or anything, but how he conveys himself is subjectively weaker because it makes his whole "We will stand together my friends!" speeches by the end weaker because in JP he actually believes that now while EN he just always talks like that so it isn't a big deal. Which is unfortunate as Claude is the most boring of the three lords, albeit by far the least offensive, and he desperately needed some spice in 3H.

Dimitri I'm pretty sure is fine, I don't remember any big scandals with him.

I didn’t know about Claude’s EN change until now. Maybe I should continue learning Japanese one of these days since it seems to be a recurring thing.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

I didn’t know about Claude’s EN change until now. Maybe I should continue learning Japanese one of these days since it seems to be a recurring thing.

He’s still voiced by the same guy; he’s confirmed as much.

 

[ShitLurker]

I didn’t know about Claude’s EN change until now. Maybe I should continue learning Japanese one of these days since it seems to be a recurring thing.

Yeah, the idea always creeps back into my mind, but my laziness tends to win.

I guess I'll pay more attention to Claude's voice (I play subbed) and see if I get a disconnect between words and tone

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

I thought this thread would be going nuts with the new game. Is it not that good?

 

[Sergeant Major Buzzkill]

Is it not that good?

The reception seems to be pretty mixed (which surprised me, cause I expected it to be more negative. but then again, the “mainstream” fans tend to accept whatever shit that’s given to them).

Honestly, I doubt there’s much to be said about it aside from what already was pointed out. I don’t fuck with it because the game looks like shit and the fights aren’t enough to distract me from the story.

I saw some more sperging on Twitter about the localization from both sides. Debating if I should share because reading said arguments are painful as hell lol.

Edit: Decided to share a screenshot of the review score on Metacritic. Goddamn look at the user score and compare that with the critics .

 

[JamusActimus]

This game uses the Awakening style of how reclassing levels work where characters have an internal level while your level for the class is at 1 when you recall. You'd get this same issue if you second sealed Frederic in that game too, or if you learned it like I did where I wanted to make Gregor a Berserker for fun in Awakening, but he had to slowly level up as the brigand to level 10 (because his internal level is far higher then level 1).

Vander is just pants in this game unfortunately, he's like FE6 Marcus at best, which isn't even an issue unique to him just you feel it first with him I feel. The biggest issue I'm seeing right now with this game gameplay wise is this has the Radiant Dawn issue where the "Dawn Brigade" sucks ass save for one or two exceptions but the "Greil Mercs" are amazing because their bases are not shit and their growths are serviceable or better anyway. So you just use those later units whenever possible and ignore half the roster by the endgame unless you use favoritism, are playing purely for fun, or are memeing to make someone like Vander the ultimate Berserker or something dumb like that (or when I used Tormod at endgame for RD). It is a rotating door of replacements. You just get some really good units too fast, like in chapter 11.

Radiant Dawn at least forced you to consider using most the cast for a notable amount of time due to limited options, save for some very unfortunate exceptions. Engage doesn't really have that, you just have all these units with constant new ones added and little reason to use all of them. Also the endgame deployment slots are 14 from what I've heard.

I am pretty sure that Fred had boosted xp gain if you demoted him.

Here with Xander , I am pretty sure he he gains xp just as fast as when he was promoted.
Not sure why the demote option exist you have 0 reason to do it then.

I guess it's also better to promote asap if it does not affect xp gain right?

 

[NerdShamer]

I thought this thread would be going nuts with the new game. Is it not that good?

I genuinely wished that they kept the anime in check.

Between this and the following cutscene that plays after your first turn, I really can't stop chuckling at just how terrible the writing is getting, just look at the tomboy archer stalking people because they're more muscular than her. I also saw the intro for the level after this and it's about as stereotypical as it gets...At least Diamant is sane, though; so that leaves us pretty close to an 50/50 split between "ANIME CHARACTER!" and something that's somewhat believable.

Honestly, I doubt there’s much to be said about it aside from what already was pointed out. I don’t fuck with it because the game looks like shit and the fights aren’t enough to distract me from the story.

But at any rate, this game is kind of brutal, at times, which is essentially the only thing that it has going for it. Other than that, it initially comes off as an piece of terrible fanfiction.

 

[mrs thickness]

I thought this thread would be going nuts with the new game. Is it not that good?

Probably waiting for Mangs's review to drop to regurgitate his talking points, since most of the prerelease dooming has been utterly blown the fuck out unless you're the kind of Fire Emblem Fan that would rather the games be more like Triangle Strategy than Fire Emblem.

Also, anybody making comparisons to Thracia/Conquest style Chaos Emblem should first play on Maddening, which is pretty good shit, from what I've played of it (almost chapter 10.) Enemy formations, reinforcements, and equips are changed and the AI doesn't go for 0 damage/hit fights without backup support. I haven't even been using Sigurd!Louis either, Marth!Alear's been the MVP for almost every chapter by avoid stacking, getting huge EXP/SP gains from Mercurius, and getting 1-2 range and mixed damage from early forging a steel sword into a levin sword. He was promoting by the time Anna's paralogue unlocked, and still very commonly just solos entire sections of maps.

People have been saying later joins generally outclass the shit out of your earlier joins, but I'm not entirely convinced because of the monstrous EXP and SP gains Marth and Micaiah give, and plus your earlier characters will have access to emblems that your later joins won't for a long time, and even some of their cheaper inheritable skills are extremely impactful. A mage Anna, just as an example, stops being weighed down by elfire after getting Build +3 from Lief. I think if you really wanted to make Boucheron or whoever work in the long run on Maddening it's totally feasible without feeding them all the stupid free stat boosters you get, or Tiki, but I'm still pretty early in and may be totally fuckin off base if even midgame gets a lot harder. As is, it seems decently challenging without being overly limiting.

 

[BananaSplit²]

I thought this thread would be going nuts with the new game. Is it not that good?

It's actually pretty good so far (reached chapter 11 which is getting brutal with the ring mechanics turned AGAINST you) but westerners being filtered by the aesthetics and simple story is also rather funny to me considering the franchise. The game itself a huge fanservice to all previous FE games, some of them that were never officially exported in the West which makes it obvious it was aimed for the japanese audience first.

It also makes me very curious to play the older Fire Emblem games in japanese to see if people complaining about the anime archetypes were instead fed 4kids bootleg versions in the end.

 

[Nobody In Particular]

Since I was kind of the first one here who started posting unfiltered details, I guess I will say that I've softened on this game a little. I still don't really like it, and I do not want this game to dictate the future of the franchise. But, playing it is decently fun. I generally like classic Fire Emblem stories, and I play the games specifically for them. If a game is going to sit me down and ask me to spend a number of hours reading text, I would like for the text it wants me to read to contain cool story details. I'm no John Carmack, I like game stories. I know not everyone is like that, so if that is you; if you're just content to click start whenever a text box pops up, there's actually a lot here for you to enjoy. Just know, that's not me.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I really enjoyed Fire Emblem with my Nintendo Gameboy Color.

Is the new Fire emblem good?

 

[Nobody In Particular]

I really enjoyed Fire Emblem with my Nintendo Gameboy Color.

Is the new Fire emblem good?

Gameboy Color??? There were three on the advance, two that released outside Japan.

To answer your question... it depends.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Maybe it was advance. It was so long ago that I barely remember. It was the one with the hero chick who had the samurai sword and the her guy with the rapier.

I've been eying the Nintendo switch in my living room lately, ever since I discovered that Animal crossing was actually a farming/capitalism simulator rather then a cutsey thing for the kids. Willing to revisit an old friend I guess. Should I start with the new one or the three houses?

 

[Nobody In Particular]

Maybe it was advance. It was so long ago that I barely remember. It was the one with the hero chick who had the samurai sword and the her guy with the rapier.

I've been eying the Nintendo switch in my living room lately, ever since I discovered that Animal crossing was actually a farming/capitalism simulator rather then a cutsey thing for the kids. Willing to revisit an old friend I guess. Should I start with the new one or the three houses?

You'd probably enjoy Three Houses more. It's got more busy work than Engage. But, there's a lot more meat to chew on overall. Also, if you like Animal Crossing, Rune Factory 4 is probably up your alley too.

 

[mindlessobserver]

You'd probably enjoy Three Houses more. It's got more busy work than Engage. But, there's a lot more meat to chew on overall. Also, if you like Animal Crossing, Rune Factory 4 is probably up your alley too.

Thanks friend! I really enjoy tactical strategy games, but Fire Emblem has been something I've been out of the loop on for years, even though I loved it as a kid.

 

[Nobody In Particular]

Thanks friend! I really enjoy tactical strategy games, but Fire Emblem has been something I've been out of the loop on for years, even though I loved it as a kid.

By the way it was Fire Emblem Blazing Blade that you played on your Gameboy. Although it released outside of Japan as just "Fire Emblem" with no sub-header. Incase you wanted to load it up on an emulator later on.

 

[JamusActimus]

Thanks friend! I really enjoy tactical strategy games, but Fire Emblem has been something I've been out of the loop on for years, even though I loved it as a kid.

You could try triangle strategy or tactics ogre is you like that type of game.


Weirdly enough lately I really enjoyed expedition rome a ton too.