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WELCOME TO THE FINAL 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE!!!
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What time is the debate?

Starts at 6pm-7:30pm PST / 8pm CST-9:30pm CST / 9pm-10:30pm EST

How do I watch?

The major news networks — ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and NBC — will air the debate on TV as well as stream it on their apps and websites. C-SPAN will air it on TV, its website and its YouTube channel. Stream will be linked here when it's up.


Where?

Belmont University in Nashville.

Who is moderating?​

Kristen Welker

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Candidates-​

Donald J Trump​

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Joseph R Biden​

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The debate will cover six topics:
1) The fight against COVID-19
2) American families
3) Race in America
4) Climate change
5) National security
6) Leadership

New rule: Seeing as the debate is digital, the commission has to give two minutes to let a candidate speak for a given topic. From there it goes into a large back and forth. If one candidate over-speaks or speaks when it's the other's turn, he will be muted.
Well, it’s almost over.

Thursday’s matchup between President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden will mark the end of a presidential debate season that has spanned 16 months. Since June 2019, Americans have been asked to watch more than 30 hours of robust discussion spread over 13 Democratic primary events, one presidential debate and one vice presidential debate.

The final debate follows weeks of surprise illness, controversy and the Trump campaign’s feuds with both the Biden team and the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates. What was meant to be the second presidential debate, scheduled for last week, was canceled after Trump rejected the commission’s decision to hold a virtual event in light of his COVID-19 diagnosis early this month. Instead, the two candidates participated in dueling town halls.


Tension between the president’s campaign and the commission grew this week when the the commission announced it would cut off sound to the candidates’ microphones when it wasn’t their turn to speak. The panel is aiming to prevent the kind of constant interruptions — mainly from the president — that plagued the first debate. Trump’s team also criticized the subjects announced by moderator Kristen Welker, an NBC News White House correspondent.

Here’s what you need to know:

What time is the debate?​


The debate will start at 6 p.m. Pacific time Thursday and last 90 minutes, with no commercial breaks. It will be held at Belmont University in Nashville.

How do I watch?​


The major news networks — ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and NBC — will air the debate on TV as well as stream it on their apps and websites. C-SPAN will air it on TV, its website and its YouTube channel.

Who is moderating?​


NBC’s Welker is moderating the debate, which will cover six topics: the fight against COVID-19, American families, race in America, climate change, national security and leadership. The topics Welker chose were announced Friday.

Three days later, Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien wrote to the commission that the campaign had expected foreign policy to be the focus and had been promised as much, an assertion the commission said was not true. The letter also accused the commission of engaging in “pro-Biden antics” such as not rescheduling debates based on the Trump campaign’s requests.

No debate in 2020 was ever designated by CPD as devoted to foreign or domestic policy,” the commission wrote on its Twitter account. “The same was true in 2016, when President Trump participated in the CPD debates. The choice of topics is left entirely to the journalistic judgment of the moderators.”

Biden campaign spokesman TJ Ducklo challenged Stepien’s characterization.



“The campaigns and the commission agreed months ago that the debate moderator would choose the topics,” Ducklo said. “The Trump campaign is lying about that now because Donald Trump is afraid to face more questions about his disastrous COVID response.”


What does Trump have to say about Welker?​


The president has a long history of clashing with debate hosts. This year he accused both Fox News’ Chris Wallace, who moderated the first debate, and C-SPAN’s Steve Scully, who would have moderated the Oct. 15 debate, of being biased. Scully was suspended by C-SPAN after he admitted to lying about a tweet he sent to former Trump aide and now critic Anthony Scaramucci.


Trump reserved the same treatment for Welker.

As recently as January, the president congratulated Welker on her new role as a co-anchor on NBC’s “Weekend Today,” saying the network made a “very wise decision.” But in the days leading up to the debate, the president and his allies have attempted to undermine her. The campaign has pointed to reports from Fox News and the New York Post on her parents’ donations to Democratic candidates, though Welker herself is an independent, according to the Associated Press.

What do the candidates think of the microphone rule?​


Asked about the rule change during an extensive phone interview with the hosts of “Fox & Friends” on Tuesday, the president said, “The whole thing is crazy.” He repeated a false claim that the commission purposely “stifled out,” “muted” and “modulated” his mic during a 2016 presidential debate with Hillary Clinton.

“They actually had to write me a letter of apology,” he said during the call.

(The commission put out a brief statement at the time saying, “There were issues regarding Donald Trump’s audio that affected the sound level in the debate hall.” The sound issue was not apparent on television broadcasts.)

Biden supports the rule change. “I think it’s a good idea, I think there should be more limitations on not interrupting one another,” he told Milwaukee’s ABC News affiliate WISN in an interview Tuesday.

What are the candidates going to talk about?​


Based on the debate topics and recent comments by the campaigns, Biden will probably focus on the president’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, which has left more than 221,000 Americans dead and millions unemployed.

The president has falsely accused Biden of supporting defunding the police in the past and will probably repeat that claim Thursday. Trump is also expected to bring up Biden’s past comments on fracking and his plan to raise taxes on the wealthy.

Both candidates are likely to hit the other on China. Although the Trump campaign has tried to portray Biden as weak on China and misrepresented his son Hunter Biden’s business dealings there, members of the president’s family, including daughter Ivanka, also have had dealings in China. The New York Times reported this week that President Trump has a Chinese bank account through one of his businesses and paid nearly $200,000 in taxes to China between 2013 and 2015.



Regardless of the topics, the former vice president’s son is likely to be a main target of the president. The New York Post has reported on emails provided by the president’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, that he said were retrieved from the hard drive of a laptop purportedly left at a Delaware repair shop by Hunter Biden. It’s unclear whether any steps were taken to verify the authenticity of emails found on the laptop, nor do they support the unfounded allegations that Joe Biden misused his authority as vice president to help his son’s foreign interests. Trump’s claims dovetail with a Russian disinformation effort that U.S. intelligence officials say is designed to undermine Biden’s candidacy.

Is the president going to try a different debate strategy?​


Probably not. Brian Kilmeade of “Fox & Friends” asked Trump whether he was planning on changing his debate strategy or introducing new people to his prep team, and whether he would take time to correct any falsehoods from Biden.

“Will you take some of your time and answer the previous question, like Mike Pence did, and then answer their question?” Kilmeade asked the president Tuesday.

“Well look, I do my own debating. I do fine, and I do my own debating, and a lot of people said I won,” Trump said. “Look, when somebody stands there and he lies, lies, lies, I like to challenge it at the time, because you don’t have time to go back.”

Although Biden at the last debate incorrectly said the U.S. had a higher trade deficit with China now than before Trump took office, Trump made multiple false statements, including about mail voting, the economy and his administration’s approach to healthcare.

The president did acknowledge that some people had suggested he let Biden finish his thoughts. “There are a lot of people that say, ‘Let him talk,’ because he loses his train, he loses his train, he loses his mind, frankly,” Trump said.

When is the next debate?​


We’ll get back to you in 2023.

After the debates a poll will be posted on who you think won the final debate. Have fun!
Thank you to everybody following the 2019-2020 presidential cycle and tuning into the debates, it's been a lot of fun and I hope you guys had as much fun as I have. These only come once every 4 years and seem like a slowly fading tradition, I hope the entertainment can be kept alive for future generations. I really enjoy seeing the replies, live takes, responses and memes.

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So I have news alerts on my phone, and the only stuff talked about from the debates?

Yeah, it's Biden's remarks on oil.

BBC "Biden seeks to clarify remark on ending Oil" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54670269

The Failing New York Times says the Oil Industry only expressed "concern" about the dementia patient's comments on Oil: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/23/business/energy-environment/joe-biden-oil-debate-reaction.html

Meanwhile the WSJ says the Indsutry "bristles"at his remarks: https://www.wsj.com/articles/oil-in...dge-to-transition-away-from-crude-11603482883

So yeah, they got nothing really on Trump and have to focus on Biden's clearly stated intent to put 9.8 million americans out of jobs.
 
I dislike Biden a lot - I want him to lose so badly he dies the next day; however, the one point he (his team) made effectively is how Trump was horribly solicitous to Xi even after his party had infected us and the world. It was a good point, and it was near the beginning. It's truly disgusting Trump was praising Xi back then, and might again in the future, who knows.
Knowing who Xi is, it's wrong that anyone is praising him, especially Trump of all people, and even more so to our country's traitors who all heard the warning, and something something Ron Paul meme.

However, COVID early on was strange; Even though it obviously came from China, the starting information was iffy as well; did the virus come from a wet market and bat soup, or did it come a lab making a bioweapon that happened to release it accidently or through massive incompetence? Either way, the virus spreads, shit gets real, and every country is in a fight to save themselves and the world by defeating the virus.

Trump helps Xi because that commie is the leader of COVID Ground Zero and everyone just want to help each other. Seeing the China is the point of origin, it makes sense that Trump would see any China's positives as worthy of praise despite the straimed relations because Xi is managing to get results (through malicious means).

It only gets nasty when it becomes more politicized; everyone starts sucking off China because they're putting up "a good show of strong leadership and results despite being hit the worst." Given the fact that this is an election year and other countries and our domestic leaders have their chosen leader for the US in mind, everyone starts bashing the US and Trump. "Journalists" would especially love to cite the numbers of foreign countries as a form of spite towards the US. And once Trump becomes aware of what China is doing, he goes back to being tough on them.

I'm pretty sure that his initial response was out of care and now he's back t1o his old self. And now, Xi's snark about the whole matter, including his contempt towards Drumpf and the US with COVID during the State of the UN conference on helped to make sure that China pays.

Nice catch on that point nevertheless! Even though I can see the projection from Democrats, I hope that in the future (if Trump is reelected), if something happens worldwide and China is the apparent catalyst, he presses them immediately and calls out anyone who tries to give them an inch.
 
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Knowing who Xi is, it's wrong that anyone is praising him, especially Trump of all people, and even more so to our country's traitors who all heard the warning, and something something Ron Paul meme.

However, COVID early on was strange; Even though it obviously came from China, the starting information was iffy as well; did the virus come from a wet market and bat soup, or did it come a lab making a bioweapon that happened to release it accidently or through massive incompetence? Either way, the virus spreads, shit gets real, and every country is in a fight to save themselves and the world by defeating the virus.

Trump helps Xi because that commie is the leader of COVID Ground Zero and everyone just want to help each other. Seeing the China is the point of origin, it makes sense that Trump would see any China's positives as worthy of praise despite the straimed relations because Xi is managing to get results (through malicious means).

It only gets nasty when it becomes more politicized; everyone starts sucking off China because they're putting up "a good show of strong leadership and results despite being hit the worst." Given the fact that this is an election year and other countries and our domestic leaders have their chosen leader for the US in mind, everyone starts bashing the US and Trump. "Journalists" would especially love to cite the numbers of foreign countries as a form of spite towards the US. And once Trump becomes aware of what China is doing, he goes back to being tough on them.

I'm pretty sure that his initial response was out of care and now he's back t1o his old self. And now, Xi's snark about the whole matter, including his contempt towards Drumpf and the US with COVID during the State of the UN conference on helped to make sure that China pays.

Nice catch on that point nevertheless! Even though I can see the projection from Democrats, I hope that in the future (if Trump is reelected), if something happens worldwide and China is the apparent catalyst, he presses them immediately and calls out anyone who tries to give them an inch.
I see what you're saying, but because details were "iffy" at the beginning of this mess, he shouldn't have been praising him. I understand diplomacy but considering the context it becomes absurd, and really awful actually, imo.

I'm sure Biden would have been doing more than praising him were he the President at that time though.
 
I'm sure Biden would have been doing more than praising him were he the President at that time though.
How dare you! Xi is an excellent leader, and China is a strong and rich country. How dare you to try and imply that glorious Xi is corrupt!

Biden would totally clear out pharmacies, drug stores and shopping malls just to give supplies to Xi. Or he'll just give him a small loan of a trillion dollars, pay back never. And just like the Chicoms who raided our stores before shit hit the fan and brought the goods back to China, Xi will grift us and sell shoddy essentials or sell back at double what they brought from us.

He's too compromised.
 
Rewatched the whole debate last night/caught up where I stopped. Biden said stuff that is beyond out of touch covered with that typical politician styled method of address. This guy wants to:
  • Give citizenship to millions of illegals
  • Raise minimum wage to $15 federally
  • Transition out of the oil industry
  • Rejoin the Paris accord
  • Do all of this during a Covid induced recession.
Those aren't Trump talking points or numbers, those are things Biden himself has said he wants to do, straight from his mouth. This seems so out of touch with what Americans outside of these big cities want. I'm not American, but if I was, this should be setting off alarm bells.
 
I'd say a good part of them are being willfully obtuse. Orange man says ridiculous lie, claims feral canines are carrying Mexican children across the border! Problem for them is that pretending to be retarded to own the Orange Man has some really diminishing returns on it.
Some of them legitimately don't know. They are perfect low information voters. You have to portray yourself as a fucking retard? That's a Trump tactic. I thought they hated him. So they're embracing him now? Do they ACTUALLY fucking expect people to be as fucking retarded as them? I've known what a coyote was for...fucking....I don't know, 15+ years? The term is over a century fucking old and has no ethnic basis aside from associating human smugglers with trash eating animals that prey on the weak. Which is fairly accurate.

Also if you're saying the term coyotes is racist, you're a dumb faggot who doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about and are making an attempt to save face. Trump's bleach comment was an obvious joke, this is just showing you're fucking an uneducated mongoloid that has no place opening their fucking mouth. These people are so ill informed it is nauseating. They are just like "I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE" to politics and history. They don't know fucking anything about it, but constantly open their mouths like they're experts. If you don't know what a 'coyote' is in terms of border smuggling, you're too stupid to exist. And of course all of these idiots are blu check marks. That little tick is an indication of how much of a fucking retard you are,
 
How dare you! Xi is an excellent leader, and China is a strong and rich country. How dare you to try and imply that glorious Xi is corrupt!

Biden would totally clear out pharmacies, drug stores and shopping malls just to give supplies to Xi. Or he'll just give him a small loan of a trillion dollars, pay back never. And just like the Chicoms who raided our stores before shit hit the fan and brought the goods back to China, Xi will grift us and sell shoddy essentials or sell back at double what they brought from us.

He's too compromised.
Forgive me Xi...hope he sees this
 
If Biden does win, this should be Trumps concession speech:

'"I'm not much on speeches, but it's so gratifying to leave you wallowing in the mess you've made. You're screwed, thank you.'
It's not that simple. Trump was some weird catalyst for something greater than him or either party, as autistic as that sounds.
Win or lose, whenever Trump leaves the White House the ride continues.

Personally, I think that whenever the Dems regain the ability to shoehorn legislation, they're going all out on preventing the Republicans/right/not-Dems from ever regaining power. The US crossed the Rubicon in 2016.
 
It's not that simple. Trump was some weird catalyst for something greater than him or either party, as autistic as that sounds.
Win or lose, whenever Trump leaves the White House the ride continues.

Personally, I think that whenever the Dems regain the ability to shoehorn legislation, they're going all out on preventing the Republicans/right/not-Dems from ever regaining power. The US crossed the Rubicon in 2016.
The good thing trump did for certain was get people to drop their masks.
 
Not sure if it's already been mentioned, but someone (I don't think it was the moderator, because she seemed caught off guard when it happened) cut Trump's mic a few times.
 
I noticed that too. I think they expected Trump to act less civil than he did and jumped the gun.
I liked that Democrats were saying (and somewhat correctly) that Trump lost the first debate because he wouldn't shut the fuck up.

They then demanded protocols put in place to shut Trump up and let Biden speak more. Then Biden said he was going to destroy the oil industry.

Either the Democrats were lying about Trump losing the first debate, or MONUMENTALLY stupid.
 
I liked that Democrats were saying (and somewhat correctly) that Trump lost the first debate because he wouldn't shut the fuck up.

They then demanded protocols put in place to shut Trump up and let Biden speak more. Then Biden said he was going to destroy the oil industry.

Either the Democrats were lying about Trump losing the first debate, or MONUMENTALLY stupid.
I know, I love it. Complete backfire. Almost looks like 4d chess on Trump's part looking back LOL.
 
Or lessons with Mike Pence.

Or Trump is at 12th dimensional underwater steel cage shogi at this point.
Any instance where I can imagine Mike Pence as Trump's tard wrangler is what I'm going to go with because it's funnier.

If Biden had some hidden ear piece, Trump had some hidden shock device and Pence pushed the button every time Trump was getting out of line.
 
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