US Final Presidental Debate 2020

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WELCOME TO THE FINAL 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE!!!
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What time is the debate?

Starts at 6pm-7:30pm PST / 8pm CST-9:30pm CST / 9pm-10:30pm EST

How do I watch?

The major news networks — ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and NBC — will air the debate on TV as well as stream it on their apps and websites. C-SPAN will air it on TV, its website and its YouTube channel. Stream will be linked here when it's up.


Where?

Belmont University in Nashville.

Who is moderating?​

Kristen Welker

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Candidates-​

Donald J Trump​

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Joseph R Biden​

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The debate will cover six topics:
1) The fight against COVID-19
2) American families
3) Race in America
4) Climate change
5) National security
6) Leadership

New rule: Seeing as the debate is digital, the commission has to give two minutes to let a candidate speak for a given topic. From there it goes into a large back and forth. If one candidate over-speaks or speaks when it's the other's turn, he will be muted.
Well, it’s almost over.

Thursday’s matchup between President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden will mark the end of a presidential debate season that has spanned 16 months. Since June 2019, Americans have been asked to watch more than 30 hours of robust discussion spread over 13 Democratic primary events, one presidential debate and one vice presidential debate.

The final debate follows weeks of surprise illness, controversy and the Trump campaign’s feuds with both the Biden team and the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates. What was meant to be the second presidential debate, scheduled for last week, was canceled after Trump rejected the commission’s decision to hold a virtual event in light of his COVID-19 diagnosis early this month. Instead, the two candidates participated in dueling town halls.


Tension between the president’s campaign and the commission grew this week when the the commission announced it would cut off sound to the candidates’ microphones when it wasn’t their turn to speak. The panel is aiming to prevent the kind of constant interruptions — mainly from the president — that plagued the first debate. Trump’s team also criticized the subjects announced by moderator Kristen Welker, an NBC News White House correspondent.

Here’s what you need to know:

What time is the debate?​


The debate will start at 6 p.m. Pacific time Thursday and last 90 minutes, with no commercial breaks. It will be held at Belmont University in Nashville.

How do I watch?​


The major news networks — ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and NBC — will air the debate on TV as well as stream it on their apps and websites. C-SPAN will air it on TV, its website and its YouTube channel.

Who is moderating?​


NBC’s Welker is moderating the debate, which will cover six topics: the fight against COVID-19, American families, race in America, climate change, national security and leadership. The topics Welker chose were announced Friday.

Three days later, Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien wrote to the commission that the campaign had expected foreign policy to be the focus and had been promised as much, an assertion the commission said was not true. The letter also accused the commission of engaging in “pro-Biden antics” such as not rescheduling debates based on the Trump campaign’s requests.

No debate in 2020 was ever designated by CPD as devoted to foreign or domestic policy,” the commission wrote on its Twitter account. “The same was true in 2016, when President Trump participated in the CPD debates. The choice of topics is left entirely to the journalistic judgment of the moderators.”

Biden campaign spokesman TJ Ducklo challenged Stepien’s characterization.



“The campaigns and the commission agreed months ago that the debate moderator would choose the topics,” Ducklo said. “The Trump campaign is lying about that now because Donald Trump is afraid to face more questions about his disastrous COVID response.”


What does Trump have to say about Welker?​


The president has a long history of clashing with debate hosts. This year he accused both Fox News’ Chris Wallace, who moderated the first debate, and C-SPAN’s Steve Scully, who would have moderated the Oct. 15 debate, of being biased. Scully was suspended by C-SPAN after he admitted to lying about a tweet he sent to former Trump aide and now critic Anthony Scaramucci.


Trump reserved the same treatment for Welker.

As recently as January, the president congratulated Welker on her new role as a co-anchor on NBC’s “Weekend Today,” saying the network made a “very wise decision.” But in the days leading up to the debate, the president and his allies have attempted to undermine her. The campaign has pointed to reports from Fox News and the New York Post on her parents’ donations to Democratic candidates, though Welker herself is an independent, according to the Associated Press.

What do the candidates think of the microphone rule?​


Asked about the rule change during an extensive phone interview with the hosts of “Fox & Friends” on Tuesday, the president said, “The whole thing is crazy.” He repeated a false claim that the commission purposely “stifled out,” “muted” and “modulated” his mic during a 2016 presidential debate with Hillary Clinton.

“They actually had to write me a letter of apology,” he said during the call.

(The commission put out a brief statement at the time saying, “There were issues regarding Donald Trump’s audio that affected the sound level in the debate hall.” The sound issue was not apparent on television broadcasts.)

Biden supports the rule change. “I think it’s a good idea, I think there should be more limitations on not interrupting one another,” he told Milwaukee’s ABC News affiliate WISN in an interview Tuesday.

What are the candidates going to talk about?​


Based on the debate topics and recent comments by the campaigns, Biden will probably focus on the president’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, which has left more than 221,000 Americans dead and millions unemployed.

The president has falsely accused Biden of supporting defunding the police in the past and will probably repeat that claim Thursday. Trump is also expected to bring up Biden’s past comments on fracking and his plan to raise taxes on the wealthy.

Both candidates are likely to hit the other on China. Although the Trump campaign has tried to portray Biden as weak on China and misrepresented his son Hunter Biden’s business dealings there, members of the president’s family, including daughter Ivanka, also have had dealings in China. The New York Times reported this week that President Trump has a Chinese bank account through one of his businesses and paid nearly $200,000 in taxes to China between 2013 and 2015.



Regardless of the topics, the former vice president’s son is likely to be a main target of the president. The New York Post has reported on emails provided by the president’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, that he said were retrieved from the hard drive of a laptop purportedly left at a Delaware repair shop by Hunter Biden. It’s unclear whether any steps were taken to verify the authenticity of emails found on the laptop, nor do they support the unfounded allegations that Joe Biden misused his authority as vice president to help his son’s foreign interests. Trump’s claims dovetail with a Russian disinformation effort that U.S. intelligence officials say is designed to undermine Biden’s candidacy.

Is the president going to try a different debate strategy?​


Probably not. Brian Kilmeade of “Fox & Friends” asked Trump whether he was planning on changing his debate strategy or introducing new people to his prep team, and whether he would take time to correct any falsehoods from Biden.

“Will you take some of your time and answer the previous question, like Mike Pence did, and then answer their question?” Kilmeade asked the president Tuesday.

“Well look, I do my own debating. I do fine, and I do my own debating, and a lot of people said I won,” Trump said. “Look, when somebody stands there and he lies, lies, lies, I like to challenge it at the time, because you don’t have time to go back.”

Although Biden at the last debate incorrectly said the U.S. had a higher trade deficit with China now than before Trump took office, Trump made multiple false statements, including about mail voting, the economy and his administration’s approach to healthcare.

The president did acknowledge that some people had suggested he let Biden finish his thoughts. “There are a lot of people that say, ‘Let him talk,’ because he loses his train, he loses his train, he loses his mind, frankly,” Trump said.

When is the next debate?​


We’ll get back to you in 2023.

After the debates a poll will be posted on who you think won the final debate. Have fun!
Thank you to everybody following the 2019-2020 presidential cycle and tuning into the debates, it's been a lot of fun and I hope you guys had as much fun as I have. These only come once every 4 years and seem like a slowly fading tradition, I hope the entertainment can be kept alive for future generations. I really enjoy seeing the replies, live takes, responses and memes.

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Wow, if they're giving him that much slack he must have absolutely destroyed Biden. I haven't watched it yet but from what I'm gathering Trump basically was much more reserved and just let Biden make an absolute fool out of himself and say several things that would tank him with certain demographics? Is this real life?
 
I have to think these people know exactly what the term means but they hope/think the general public they look down on doesn't. Deep down I know it isn't true but my brain hurts too much when I acknowledge these people are that stupid.
 
I am a dirty Jock and even I know what it fucking is. Do these people never watch television or read a newspaper or a book? It really is amazing when you see the middle class and how detached they are from the real world. Amazing.
City Californians/New Yorkers. Beyond ignorant on matters in their bubble, let alone matters outside it.
 
Wow, if they're giving him that much slack he must have absolutely destroyed Biden. I haven't watched it yet but from what I'm gathering Trump basically was much more reserved and just let Biden make an absolute fool out of himself and say several things that would tank him with certain demographics? Is this real life?
When all Joe Biden is willing to tell you is "Scranton Pennsylvania" it's not hard to beat him. Everything else is a "Trump did bad stuff" or "that didn't happen/is not proven."

Biden did enact Hitler, but not by comparing Trump to him. He missed a golden opportunity.
Georgia's finest; pretty sure they're the state who had/has a senator who thought the island of Guam would capsize... ... ... yes, I'm fucking serious.
 
Betting markets still have Trump the loser with x2.5 payoff for victory. After that debate I've never been so tempted to gamble
x4.25 if he wins the popular vote. I'm tempted as well. I won a couple hundred bucks on the last election, although I would've withdrawn my bet on election night if I could have. This time he feels much more likely to win, but you never know.
 
Wow, if they're giving him that much slack he must have absolutely destroyed Biden. I haven't watched it yet but from what I'm gathering Trump basically was much more reserved and just let Biden make an absolute fool out of himself and say several things that would tank him with certain demographics? Is this real life?
Maybe they were hoping Trump would just double down on how he acted in the first debate and just start debating the moderator while she shielded Biden and muted Trump to make him look unhinged. If that was the case he didn't take the bait, Biden started out strong but fell apart in the latter half of the debate and fucked himself over with attempts at humor and mic drop moments that just ended up being awkward gaffes. Then Trump managed to get him to admit to wanting to kill the oil industry which is the kill shot of the night if there was one.
 
I just wonder how long before the dictionary sites start yanking down the informal/alternate definitions for "coyotes".

They can try and news sites can pretend it's uncommon, but I think that one is a bit too much to try and sell to the public.

Just in case though:
Wikipedia: https://archive.vn/1mNHd
Wiktionary: https://archive.vn/0JBPe
Merriam-Webster: https://archive.vn/yCyDa
Dictionary.com: https://archive.vn/xvj2I
Cambridge: https://archive.vn/GTg8X
Urbandictionary: https://archive.vn/XzRj3

Articles that use the term:
WaPo: https://archive.vn/PHU3F
NY Times: https://archive.vn/AiOxl
LA Times: https://archive.vn/WLzot
PBS: https://archive.vn/SAWQ4
NPR: https://archive.vn//lP2bg
AP: https://archive.vn/fGMrD
Reuters: https://archive.vn/PtLmF
Univision: https://archive.vn/Zicvm
Newsweek: https://archive.vn/XGzEA
Vice: https://archive.vn/n3P0h
Vox: https://archive.vn/DpQKx

A handful of those had been archived within the last couple of hours so it seems that plenty of people are expecting the memoryhole.
 
The Telegraph (probably the last unfucked newspaper on Fleet Street in Bongland) has had one of its columnists call the debate and election for Trump.

Which is quite something considering four years ago they were sucking the same dick as CNN et all.
 
This is the latest "prediction" from the Finland's biggest bigliest newspaper. Your smooth brain may not understand Elvish but you can read numbers, probably.
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I'm pressing ⓧ on this one.
 
>135 third party
this is what europoors REALLY believe
Yellow is for undecided. They really think Corn Pop may end up with 414 electoral votes. Even we are not stupid enough to believe that Burgerland could have a viable third party, Also in our defense the newspaper sources their polling data from "reputable" Burgerpravdas.
 
>135 third party
this is what europoors REALLY believe
You have the Tory party in the UK actively supporting Biden for President, in spite of the relationship Trump has with Boris. They are either that cucked/globalist or Biden has some dirt/done some corrupt dealings with them.
 
Fingers crossed
This is the latest "prediction" from the Finland's biggest bigliest newspaper. Your smooth brain may not understand Elvish but you can read numbers, probably.
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I'm pressing ⓧ on this one.
It would be amazing if we get big Trump and Amberlynn meltdowns in the same year. Can't wait for the election day.
 
I wonder if this debate will actually have any impact on the election? I mean enough to actually matter. guess we will find out.
I guarantee you Trump is having an ad made about the oil bit, and will play it on loop for the next two weeks.
 
WRPI (CBS, I believe) - Trump 24%, Biden 74%
ABC - Trump 51%, Biden 49%
NJ - Trump 55%, Biden 44%, 171k~ votes
That leftie tweet - Trump 49%, Biden 41%, Tie 9%, 94k~ votes

I still haven't seen a CNN interactive poll.
Final update of the evening

WRPI (CBS) - Trump 11%, Biden 88%, Tie (good) 0%, Tie (bad) 0%, Didn't change my mind - 87% - 133,265 responses

ABC - Trump 51% (3.3/5), Biden 49% (3.1/5), 'mute was used just the right amount of times', 'I don't want more debates' 62%, 'Didn't change my mind' 90%, 'I haven't voted' 59% - ????? responses

NJ - Trump 54.79%, Biden 45.29% - 197,982 responses

Leftie Tweet - Trump 49%, Biden 41%, Tie 10% - 93,787 votes

CBS is out here going for the unironic 90% Biden win. Even CNN didn't try to pull that. Every other poll puts trump slightly or clearly ahead, and people pretty much unanimously feel they already knew by now who they were voting for.
 
IMO Trump supporters will say Trump won and Biden supporters will say Biden won. What it might do is flip a few people who were on the fence. Then again flipping a few undecideds in PA, MN and MI might flip the election. However, even if the polls were honest there's no way they'd be high resolution enough to detect that. And the polls aren't honest. Luke Smith made an interesting video on why the polls are not honest.

Even though it's unnecessary because this shit ain't going away my autism compels me to archive this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPiofmZGb8o
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Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4
 
This is the latest "prediction" from the Finland's biggest bigliest newspaper. Your smooth brain may not understand Elvish but you can read numbers, probably.
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I'm pressing ⓧ on this one.
Poor Finns in the grip of vodka (or whatever) induced mental breakdown. Well no, but it's a sad comfort blanket bit of cope posting.
 
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