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WELCOME TO THE FINAL 2020 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE!!!
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What time is the debate?

Starts at 6pm-7:30pm PST / 8pm CST-9:30pm CST / 9pm-10:30pm EST

How do I watch?

The major news networks — ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and NBC — will air the debate on TV as well as stream it on their apps and websites. C-SPAN will air it on TV, its website and its YouTube channel. Stream will be linked here when it's up.


Where?

Belmont University in Nashville.

Who is moderating?​

Kristen Welker

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Candidates-​

Donald J Trump​

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Joseph R Biden​

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The debate will cover six topics:
1) The fight against COVID-19
2) American families
3) Race in America
4) Climate change
5) National security
6) Leadership

New rule: Seeing as the debate is digital, the commission has to give two minutes to let a candidate speak for a given topic. From there it goes into a large back and forth. If one candidate over-speaks or speaks when it's the other's turn, he will be muted.
Well, it’s almost over.

Thursday’s matchup between President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden will mark the end of a presidential debate season that has spanned 16 months. Since June 2019, Americans have been asked to watch more than 30 hours of robust discussion spread over 13 Democratic primary events, one presidential debate and one vice presidential debate.

The final debate follows weeks of surprise illness, controversy and the Trump campaign’s feuds with both the Biden team and the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates. What was meant to be the second presidential debate, scheduled for last week, was canceled after Trump rejected the commission’s decision to hold a virtual event in light of his COVID-19 diagnosis early this month. Instead, the two candidates participated in dueling town halls.


Tension between the president’s campaign and the commission grew this week when the the commission announced it would cut off sound to the candidates’ microphones when it wasn’t their turn to speak. The panel is aiming to prevent the kind of constant interruptions — mainly from the president — that plagued the first debate. Trump’s team also criticized the subjects announced by moderator Kristen Welker, an NBC News White House correspondent.

Here’s what you need to know:

What time is the debate?​


The debate will start at 6 p.m. Pacific time Thursday and last 90 minutes, with no commercial breaks. It will be held at Belmont University in Nashville.

How do I watch?​


The major news networks — ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and NBC — will air the debate on TV as well as stream it on their apps and websites. C-SPAN will air it on TV, its website and its YouTube channel.

Who is moderating?​


NBC’s Welker is moderating the debate, which will cover six topics: the fight against COVID-19, American families, race in America, climate change, national security and leadership. The topics Welker chose were announced Friday.

Three days later, Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien wrote to the commission that the campaign had expected foreign policy to be the focus and had been promised as much, an assertion the commission said was not true. The letter also accused the commission of engaging in “pro-Biden antics” such as not rescheduling debates based on the Trump campaign’s requests.

No debate in 2020 was ever designated by CPD as devoted to foreign or domestic policy,” the commission wrote on its Twitter account. “The same was true in 2016, when President Trump participated in the CPD debates. The choice of topics is left entirely to the journalistic judgment of the moderators.”

Biden campaign spokesman TJ Ducklo challenged Stepien’s characterization.



“The campaigns and the commission agreed months ago that the debate moderator would choose the topics,” Ducklo said. “The Trump campaign is lying about that now because Donald Trump is afraid to face more questions about his disastrous COVID response.”


What does Trump have to say about Welker?​


The president has a long history of clashing with debate hosts. This year he accused both Fox News’ Chris Wallace, who moderated the first debate, and C-SPAN’s Steve Scully, who would have moderated the Oct. 15 debate, of being biased. Scully was suspended by C-SPAN after he admitted to lying about a tweet he sent to former Trump aide and now critic Anthony Scaramucci.


Trump reserved the same treatment for Welker.

As recently as January, the president congratulated Welker on her new role as a co-anchor on NBC’s “Weekend Today,” saying the network made a “very wise decision.” But in the days leading up to the debate, the president and his allies have attempted to undermine her. The campaign has pointed to reports from Fox News and the New York Post on her parents’ donations to Democratic candidates, though Welker herself is an independent, according to the Associated Press.

What do the candidates think of the microphone rule?​


Asked about the rule change during an extensive phone interview with the hosts of “Fox & Friends” on Tuesday, the president said, “The whole thing is crazy.” He repeated a false claim that the commission purposely “stifled out,” “muted” and “modulated” his mic during a 2016 presidential debate with Hillary Clinton.

“They actually had to write me a letter of apology,” he said during the call.

(The commission put out a brief statement at the time saying, “There were issues regarding Donald Trump’s audio that affected the sound level in the debate hall.” The sound issue was not apparent on television broadcasts.)

Biden supports the rule change. “I think it’s a good idea, I think there should be more limitations on not interrupting one another,” he told Milwaukee’s ABC News affiliate WISN in an interview Tuesday.

What are the candidates going to talk about?​


Based on the debate topics and recent comments by the campaigns, Biden will probably focus on the president’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, which has left more than 221,000 Americans dead and millions unemployed.

The president has falsely accused Biden of supporting defunding the police in the past and will probably repeat that claim Thursday. Trump is also expected to bring up Biden’s past comments on fracking and his plan to raise taxes on the wealthy.

Both candidates are likely to hit the other on China. Although the Trump campaign has tried to portray Biden as weak on China and misrepresented his son Hunter Biden’s business dealings there, members of the president’s family, including daughter Ivanka, also have had dealings in China. The New York Times reported this week that President Trump has a Chinese bank account through one of his businesses and paid nearly $200,000 in taxes to China between 2013 and 2015.



Regardless of the topics, the former vice president’s son is likely to be a main target of the president. The New York Post has reported on emails provided by the president’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, that he said were retrieved from the hard drive of a laptop purportedly left at a Delaware repair shop by Hunter Biden. It’s unclear whether any steps were taken to verify the authenticity of emails found on the laptop, nor do they support the unfounded allegations that Joe Biden misused his authority as vice president to help his son’s foreign interests. Trump’s claims dovetail with a Russian disinformation effort that U.S. intelligence officials say is designed to undermine Biden’s candidacy.

Is the president going to try a different debate strategy?​


Probably not. Brian Kilmeade of “Fox & Friends” asked Trump whether he was planning on changing his debate strategy or introducing new people to his prep team, and whether he would take time to correct any falsehoods from Biden.

“Will you take some of your time and answer the previous question, like Mike Pence did, and then answer their question?” Kilmeade asked the president Tuesday.

“Well look, I do my own debating. I do fine, and I do my own debating, and a lot of people said I won,” Trump said. “Look, when somebody stands there and he lies, lies, lies, I like to challenge it at the time, because you don’t have time to go back.”

Although Biden at the last debate incorrectly said the U.S. had a higher trade deficit with China now than before Trump took office, Trump made multiple false statements, including about mail voting, the economy and his administration’s approach to healthcare.

The president did acknowledge that some people had suggested he let Biden finish his thoughts. “There are a lot of people that say, ‘Let him talk,’ because he loses his train, he loses his train, he loses his mind, frankly,” Trump said.

When is the next debate?​


We’ll get back to you in 2023.

After the debates a poll will be posted on who you think won the final debate. Have fun!
Thank you to everybody following the 2019-2020 presidential cycle and tuning into the debates, it's been a lot of fun and I hope you guys had as much fun as I have. These only come once every 4 years and seem like a slowly fading tradition, I hope the entertainment can be kept alive for future generations. I really enjoy seeing the replies, live takes, responses and memes.

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One sec, turning off that Sir Swag video about the election's policies because idc and it's not about that, I just hate niggers.

Trump better win. Idk what I'll be sad about more, Trump losing or the SJWs not giving us a fountain of tears to drink from on twitter. I feel like they've been assraped the past four years hard enough that they realized to down their shots of cope in silence and quickly so as to not give us comedy material. I better have the same panic attack out of every SJW on the platform.
 
Damn we just said we didn't like it. We didn't mean stop, if you're hype run us over and trip a red light. So what criteria are you going by to be so genuinely sure Trump will come out ahead?
I'm not 100% sure Trump is coming out ahead. It's all gut feeling. I'm basing it on three things.

1) The incumbency issue. I don't think it's gotten brought up once, but there are people that will absolutely vote for Trump because he's the devil they know. It won't be a big advantage, but it's very rare for a sitting president to lose reelection. You have to fuck up royally like H.W. did. The only thing people can even claim Trump fucked up royally was COVID, but the election happened "too late." If the election was in August, maybe COVID would still scare people. But I think normies are getting sick of COVID, and Biden is all but threatening to lock people up again while Trump says he wants everything reopened. COVID may actually be a positive in Trump's column by now with Biden's fearmongering.

2) The enthusiasm gap. In 2016, people were voting FOR Hillary to see the first women president. Nobody is voting for Biden. They are voting against Trump to be fair. But I just see thousands of people at rallies and parades to show support at a time where showing support for Trump makes you a racist. Meanwhile Biden can't get 100 people to gather for anything. It may not be a good metric, but it can't be nothing.

3) The walk away movement. Again, probably in a bubble, but I've heard plenty of people say that they didn't vote Trump in 2016 but they will in 2020. I've heard nobody say the same for Biden. Maybe it's the TDS people that didn't vote in 2016 and will in 2020, but I'm skeptical.
 
"As long as you are black, and you’re gonna be black till the day you die, no one’s gonna call you by your goddamn name. So no matter what you are called, nigger, you just let it roll off your back like water, and you’ll make it. Just pretend you’re a goddamn piece of furniture."


wow golly i guess the narrative's changed a bit in the last five years
LOL. The "landmark programs to alleviate poverty" ended up thwarting so many of the gains black Americans, as a group, might have made thanks to the Civil Rights Act and Voting Act. They disincentivized family formation, and created a perpetually dependent, self-destructive underclass. THANK YOU, LBJ.
 
I'm not 100% sure Trump is coming out ahead. It's all gut feeling. I'm basing it on three things.

1) The incumbency issue. I don't think it's gotten brought up once, but there are people that will absolutely vote for Trump because he's the devil they know. It won't be a big advantage, but it's very rare for a sitting president to lose reelection. You have to fuck up royally like H.W. did. The only thing people can even claim Trump fucked up royally was COVID, but the election happened "too late." If the election was in August, maybe COVID would still scare people. But I think normies are getting sick of COVID, and Biden is all but threatening to lock people up again while Trump says he wants everything reopened. COVID may actually be a positive in Trump's column by now with Biden's fearmongering.

2) The enthusiasm gap. In 2016, people were voting FOR Hillary to see the first women president. Nobody is voting for Biden. They are voting against Trump to be fair. But I just see thousands of people at rallies and parades to show support at a time where showing support for Trump makes you a racist. Meanwhile Biden can't get 100 people to gather for anything. It may not be a good metric, but it can't be nothing.

3) The walk away movement. Again, probably in a bubble, but I've heard plenty of people say that they didn't vote Trump in 2016 but they will in 2020. I've heard nobody say the same for Biden. Maybe it's the TDS people that didn't vote in 2016 and will in 2020, but I'm skeptical.
I'll read it in a moment. ty
 
I don't know how a debate where a candidate promised to kill the oil industry could in any way be considered fine. It's one of the biggest fuckups in presidential debate history.
That segment is so bad. His reason is the "oil industry pollutes".. like a first-grader learning about all this for the first time.

 

Key takeaways from the second and final Trump-Biden debate

Key takeaways from the second and final Trump-Biden debate​

By MARK Z. BARABAK,
MELANIE MASON
OCT. 22, 2020
7:36 PM
If you’re one of more than 48 million Americans who have already cast your presidential ballot, not to worry.
Although they managed to behave better than their last raucous debate — a mute button helped — nothing that President Trump or Democratic challenger Joe Biden said or did onstage Thursday night seems likely to change a great many minds.
Coming just 12 days before election day — or what might be more accurately described as the voting cutoff — the mostly tame 90-minute session presented Trump his last best chance before a national audience to change the trajectory of a race he seems to be losing.
It will take at least a few days for the impact, if any, of Thursday night’s socially distanced scrap in Nashville to become clear. Meantime, here are some key takeaways:
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Trump tones down
The president’s strategy in the first debate was to never let Biden, or moderator Chris Wallace, squeeze a word in edgewise. He thought it was a terrific success; many others, including some of his staunchest supporters, did not.
This time, it was the tale of two Trumps.
At the start, the president largely tamped down his combative impulses. He interrupted less, spoke softly and even sprinkled in a few niceties toward Kristen Welker, the debate moderator, whom he had been attacking in recent days. But the president’s more familiar instincts ultimately shone through.


He ran through the greatest hits of his Twitter feed — falsely claiming he was subject to a years-long “phony witch hunt,” accusing the Obama administration of spying on his campaign.
Having recovered from COVID-19, he seemed none the worse for wear, seemingly gaining strength and growing more animated as the evening went on.
One constant throughout: the president’s tenuous relationship with the truth. Fact-checkers were kept busy with his claims of an imminent coronavirus vaccine or his exaggerated toughness toward Russia.
Biden holds his own
He didn’t suffer a brain freeze or open his mouth and spray buckshot into his feet. Indeed, he more than acquitted himself.
Trump has consistently sought to disqualify Biden by painting him as too old, even though a mere three years separate the 74-year-old president and Biden, who is 77. The strategy counts on help from the former vice president, who has a longtime penchant for mangling his words. That, in theory, would illustrate the case the Democrat was long past his sell-by date.
It didn’t happen in the first debate. Thursday night’s installment, with millions of voters watching, was another chance for the vice president to badly stumble.
It didn’t happen in the second debate, either.
Crisp speaking and linear presentation have never been the former vice president’s strong suit. There were long and winding responses. There was the occasional far-fetched claim, like an extraordinarily high projection of COVID-19 deaths that appeared rooted less in fact but hyperbole. There was garble and a verbal stumble now and then.
But the night produced nothing remotely close to a death blow to Biden’s candidacy.
Night and day on COVID-19
When it came to the coronavirus that has ravaged the country and tanked the economy, the differences between the candidates were as stark as black and white, night and day, or a fairy tale vs. a pathology report.
More than 223,000 Americans have died of COVID-19 and the country is now experiencing its third surge of the pandemic, with cases exploding and some states reporting record infection and hospitalizations.
Still, Trump persisted in minimizing the onslaught of the deadly virus, praising his handling of the pandemic, promising the delivery soon of a vaccine — despite what scientists say — and suggesting the worst is past.
“We’re rounding the corner,” he said contrary to the evidence. “It’s going away.”
A grim-faced Biden had none of it.
“Anyone that is responsible for that many deaths should not be president of the United States,” he said bluntly, adding later, “We are about to go into a dark winter. A dark winter.”
Let’s clear some things up
Trump often gets questions where a simple yes or no would suffice: Will you renounce white supremacists? Will you accept the results of the election? Do you reject QAnon, which perpetuates a wacky theory that Democrats are cannibalistic child traffickers?
Usually, the president offers caveat-loaded or grudging answers that inspire more confusion than clarity. On Thursday night, Trump again had the chance to address racially inflammatory rhetoric, such as sharing video of a supporter shouting “White power!”
His wordy response stopped short of the unequivocal denouncement of such language.
After criticizing Black Lives Matter groups for anti-police chants, he vouched for his own non-racist bona fides. “I am the least racist person in this room,” he said multiple times.
Pressed by Welker on why some people see him as inciting more racial strife, Trump seemed flummoxed.
“I don’t know what to say,” he said. He then returned to more comfortable territory, assailing Biden for his work in the Senate passing a 1994 crime bill that critics say contributed to mass incarceration of Black and brown Americans.
Family feud
Biden’s son, Hunter, has lurked on the fringes throughout the campaign. His business dealings in Ukraine, and unfounded charges that his father used his power as vice president to help him, were at the heart of the impeachment case against Trump.
In recent days, the president and his allies sought to shove Hunter Biden front and center, seizing on a sketchy report in the pro-Trump New York Post to assert the former vice president used his office to promote his son’s business interests in China.
Trump repeatedly raised allegations of self-dealing and corruption, accusing Biden and his family of enriching themselves to the tune of millions of dollars, doing business with Russia, China and Iran. “Malarkey,” Biden responded, saying, “I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life.”
When Trump persisted, Biden accused Trump of purposely trying to distract from the kitchen-table issues that voters care about it. “We should be talking about your family,” he said, looking earnestly into the camera.
“Typical politician,” Trump scoffed. “C’mon Joe, you can do better.”
Immigration, at last
Trump’s signature issue has been immigration and his policies have been some of the most controversial of his presidency.
Yet the topic has been notably absent from much of the campaign dialogue, until Thursday night.
Trump was pressed on recent news that his administration cannot locate the parents of 545 children who were separated from their families at the U.S. border with Mexico, part of a strategy to deter immigrants from entering the country illegally.
Trump was vague on efforts to reunite these families, blaming Biden for the detention policy. “They built the cages,” Trump said of Biden and President Obama, referring to temporary enclosures to hold unaccompanied minors.
“They separated them from their parents,” Biden lashed back, his anger rising. “It makes us a laughingstock and violates every notion of who we are as a nation.”
The outlook abroad
Originally, when three debates were scheduled, the session Thursday night was supposed to focus on foreign policy. That changed after last week’s debate was canceled when Trump refused to participate virtually.
That left a variety of topics to be covered, drawing criticism from Trump’s team. The president often brags of his international acumen, in particular brokering peace deals between Israel and some of its Arab neighbors. (The more time spent on matters overseas, the less discussion of issues like COVID-19.)
It might have been more truncated than Trump would have liked, but the president did get the chance to strongly defend his unorthodox policy toward North Korea. He said his surprising decision to meet with dictator Kim Jong-Un was a success, staving off a nuclear war.
“He’s a different kind of guy but he probably thinks the same thing about me,” Trump said.

Biden saw things rather differently.
“He’s legitimized North Korea,” the former vice president said. “He talks about his good buddy — who is a thug.”

The mute button worked
Welker, NBC’s White House correspondent, had the difficult task of moderating Thursday night’s debate and avoiding a repeat of the last session, which proved as decorous and edifying as a 2-year-old’s tantrum.
She largely succeeded.
Her main weapon was a mute button, agreed upon by the bipartisan commission overseeing the debate, which silenced the candidates during a two-minute period whenever a new topic was introduced. Any subsequent interruptions counted against their remaining time.
It helped that a far more subdued Trump showed up. While his exasperation was clear in split-screen moments where Biden spoke — frowning, a look of skepticism or disbelief passing over his face — he largely waited his turn and was notably courteous to Welker; he lifted a finger, or politely raised his hand to signal a wish to respond, displaying a kind of politesse — “excuse me,” “thank you.”
“I respect very much the way you are handling this,” Trump said at one point.
For his part, Biden laughed, grimaced, shook his head and sometimes theatrically gaped at Trump. But he largely waited his turn to have a say and even allowed his rival more than once to have the final word — no small feat for the famously loquacious Biden.
It might not have changed a whole lot of votes. But at least it wasn’t painful to watch.
 
Biden holds his own
He didn’t suffer a brain freeze or open his mouth and spray buckshot into his feet. Indeed, he more than acquitted himself.
He lied constantly. wtf? Oh, its LA Times. Their pounce into being one of the prominent media shitholes is at least impressive.

Trump was pressed on recent news that his administration cannot locate the parents of 545 children who were separated from their families at the U.S. border with Mexico
All journalists are scum.
 
There is a certain type of god forsaken cunt of a American out there. This type, to be fair to Obama, is the reason that didn't allow him to be passionate enough.

A type of American who hates passion and being able to relate to people. They just want civility and G-rated language and think everything should be prime and proper. They hate players celebrating touchdowns in the NFL, they will have a stroke if they see how Eurocucks and South American bros celebrate their goals in soccer. They don't give two fucks about policy as long as they live in their bubble.

I think everyone has met those types at least once in their life. These cunts are the ones who will turn out for Biden.

I understand mud people and illegals and pajeets and upper class neoliberal rich fucks voting for Biden but not these lot, they are a insufferable lot. Fuck them to be honest.
These are the people who think of the President as being a kind of King or Emperor and think there should be a certain standard to their behavior when the reality is the President is closer to an average Joe like me and you than they are some kind of royalty, which is by design, the whole point of American government was to get away from Monarchies and all that pretentiousness.
 

This was the first thing that came to mind like maybe the second time he just said "come on!" by itself... Like I said before it was so weird that they seemingly coached him to specifically drop the "man" from the end every single time. It's almost like they were just trying to screw up everyone's drinking games because he said it a BUNCH tonight, but never the whole thing.

Even besides all the drinking games though, I had been seeing all these commercials on TV the last few days for a betting site where the main bet was how many times he said "c'mon man!" so I wouldn't be surprised if they were making money off of that somehow over autistic nitpicking in the end screwing over many people on what must have seemed like a sure bet.
 
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For future reference, you might want to avoid having this woman represent you in court. She seems a bit ... Not smart.
I don't even care to keep track of immigration and human trafficking and I know 'coyotes' are the people who sneak illegals across the border, not literally the animal coyote. How embarrassing.
 
This was the first thing that came to mind like maybe the second time he just said "come on!" by itself... Like I said before it was so weird that they seemingly coached him to specifically drop the "man" from the end every single time. It's almost like they were just trying to screw up everyone's drinking games because he said it a BUNCH tonight, but never the whole thing.
Trump advantage of saying so much stupid shit trough the years the repertoire he has for catchphrases and one liners is endless and diverse.
All poor Biden has is "come on man", which sounds more like an old dog whine than a jab at an oponent
 
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