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Personally i think is time for FF14 to reach the end and make way for something new. It has too many problems and the community are cattle so the only way is to just make something new. Maybe a sequel to FF14 or better yet just remaster FF11.
 
After Endwalker they should have just ended the story entirely instead of trying to milk out more story arcs if they weren't going to make a sequel to XIV. A sequel would have been a perfect opportunity for them to make a new game with a time skip for the world (thus aging up the twins and getting rid of the time bubble) and start a new saga without gluing it to a pre existing game. Though yet again considering how they’re struggling with handling XIV making a new mmo would probably be a disaster.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
The items that a new intern worked on to learn how the system works is going to be sold with premium currency.

People are melting down about this, but in reality it is going to be the ugliest looking pieces anyways so you can completely avoid it unless you want to buy something to let you access the Auction House from your House..then you will have to pay 80 dollars for that.

But you can ignore the cash shop and lose out on very little.
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It's funny to me that you think Blizzard will in no way make the cash shop more and more predatory
 
After EW, there was a glorious chance to start something new. They set the stage for it by essentially wrapping up every loose plot and disbanding the scions.

They had a fantastic opportunity... And they screwed the pooch. Coupling western gender insanity with Japanese corporate customer contempt is suicidal, it will always be suicidal and quite frankly id rather have the Japanese contempt by itself.

However, seeing someone fuck up the perfect play doesnt *have* to spell the end. Id rather see a recovery. Id rather see Squeenix send Wuk Lamat to die on his way back to his home planet, gather their feet from under them, remember that they disbanded the scions for a reason, and get a new story going.

Urging on the burning of the city isnt always the best answer, the internet hate machine not withstanding. Maybe they can recover, and I personally hope they can.
 
Übertroon said:
It's funny to me that you think Blizzard will in no way make the cash shop more and more predatory
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Oh they will try, but the shit they will put in it will be the ugliest asstastic shit they make, just like with mounts and transmog.
 
consul_dondas said:
They'll make infinity money by selling one (1) lghdtv rug for the floor of your house, especially during lghdtv month

Infinity money.
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Yes they will be able to sell fag shit to fags, but Blizzard is hardly the first ones to do that. Typically Real money shit and the trading post shit ends up being the worst looking gaudiest shit that only a retard who is fishing for people to say "ZOMG YOU BOUGHT THAT!" will buy.

Well that and niggers who want to ruin neighborhoods by making the ugliest house in the center of town.

remember that they disbanded the scions for a reason, and get a new story going.
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And people think it is funny that I am being optimistic about Blizzard.
 
Are they done retrofitting the MSQ to a singleplayer experience yet? I feel like looking back, that was a signifier of the game's decline. Not only because chasing a demographic that doesn't like MMOs, and asking them to pay a monthly subscription on top of that is unwise, but also because when they talk about resource costs being the reason they can't develop certain things, this is where they've been spending some of those resources.

(also fuck Chrysalis, of all the duties they decided not to radically change it's this one? I wouldn't care if not for the fact that screwing up the meteors results in a wipe so late in the fight and a couple of clueless people can absolutely cause wipes there)
 
Xerxes IX said:
Are they done retrofitting the MSQ to a singleplayer experience yet? I feel like looking back, that was a signifier of the game's decline.
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You cant win, though.

Not having solo-clear elements is refusing to acknowledge that a significant portion of the playerbase will just refuse to engage with their group if they get [insert dungeon/raid] one more time.

That's not a developer problem, thats a human one. People may pretend to miss the theoretical "good old days" when "the community" was supportive of itself but...

Cmon man. Nobody does that anymore. Not even the "old" players. They want what they've always wanted: to treat other players like smelly NPCs who are only there to further their own personal Main Characters Epic Story.

I dont like it. I miss SWG where there was actual community and meeting people was a useful, sometimes lucrative experience.

Refusing to acknowledge that the community doesnt like itself isn't salubrious to the games longevity, and that means finding ways to enable a solo player to get through it all.

This is the bed we made, brother.
 
Golfing on the Moon 1971 said:
I have never liked the overt crossover stuff. I would rather have gotten more original FF14 content. That's why I am playing this game and not those games, but it seems like Yoshi-P is creatively bankrupt. I would bet money that 8.0 is going to be yet another lost civilization story and moral grandstanding and his twisted message about how you must accept death and eternal life is evil.
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The series has always been heavily referential
 
Xerxes IX said:
Are they done retrofitting the MSQ to a singleplayer experience yet? I feel like looking back, that was a signifier of the game's decline. Not only because chasing a demographic that doesn't like MMOs, and asking them to pay a monthly subscription on top of that is unwise, but also because when they talk about resource costs being the reason they can't develop certain things, this is where they've been spending some of those resources.

(also fuck Chrysalis, of all the duties they decided not to radically change it's this one? I wouldn't care if not for the fact that screwing up the meteors results in a wipe so late in the fight and a couple of clueless people can absolutely cause wipes there)
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It's always going to be a single-player thing - it's a stated design goal.

It's also very good for what it is, when they feel like using it correctly. It's a great tutorial for group content and a great way to offload story instead of trying to mash it into group content (see the old Praetorium sections). It's also a lightweight way to expose players to new playstyles and classes, even if they've comically overused the "In this section you will play as <other character>" parts. It's also a good way to not have DPS mains get stuck in a 30+ wait for the next mandatory dungeon they have to do as well - which was a massive point of contention (and still is, frankly).

The main issue is that it's a serviceable single-player experience (decent gameplay, decent story) but it's insanely long and not a -good- single-player experience, as community is part of what makes a MMO shine. As like a stand alone SP game, it's very hard to recommend FFXIV over virtually any other FF or most other RPGs in the last decade.
 
consul_dondas said:
After EW, there was a glorious chance to start something new.
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This is the hill I will die on. They literally could have created an all new mmo or a solid continuation by just setting us in one of the unjoined shards. BAM! New setting, new world problems, new WoL. Start from level one, unfuck the stat bloat! The fan favorites can canonically pop in for shenanigans due to Y'Shtola researching the Key and portals and shit (which is currently an abandoned plotline.) Or just ignore the Source people altogether if it's a new MMO, and follow the effort to rejoin the shards without a calamity. They have ALL the tools to unfuck the game and off course will use zero of them.
 
Judy Fenestrator said:
They have ALL the tools ... and off course will use zero of them.
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Japanese corporate culture in action, right here folks.

Japanese IP holders like Nintendo and Square could be forever kings of the industry due to the sheer amount of success they had in the past, but are so fucking arrogant in literally every scenario that they shoot themselves in the foot with an ornate pistol while sneering at their customers.

Because they know so much better than anyone else.

Drives me up a wall.
 
Judy Fenestrator said:
Y'Shtola researching the Key and portals and shit (which is currently an abandoned plotline.)
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It's not really a dead end -- she's still researching it and it has factored into the DT story as it relates to the Macguffin we got from Sphene (and as it relates to Krile and her lineage.) I imagine it's going to come to the forefront for the next few patches, especially if Ascian bullshit is coming back into the mix.
consul_dondas said:
Because they know so much better than anyone else.
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I think it's more that Japan culturally is glacially slow at adapting or making changes. They are a culture who CLING to older technologies and traditions because that's how they've always done it (eg, fax machines) and I feel the issue is less arrogance and more just incapable of making changes until it is too late.

It is also why I think their whole account creation/management/etc process is so fucking obnoxious and why the UX is poor when compared to basically anything released in the last 10 years.
 
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So we're a 2 weeks out from 7.4, and I cant hep but shake the feeling this game dies next year due to only having one singular patch remaining in Dawntrail for an entire year.

Given how much Dawntrail has absolutely bled out the playerbase, can it really survive that? Is SE Stupid enough to leave the game in this state until mid 2027? (yes)
 
Rion said:
So we're a 2 weeks out from 7.4, and I cant hep but shake the feeling this game dies next year due to only having one singular patch remaining in Dawntrail for an entire year.

Given how much Dawntrail has absolutely bled out the playerbase, can it really survive that? Is SE Stupid enough to leave the game in this state until mid 2027? (yes)
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It simply lost its post Shadowbringers population. Once it drops below Heavenswars in player count is when you can start to worry
 
Übertroon said:
It simply lost its post Shadowbringers population. Once it drops below Heavenswars in player count is when you can start to worry
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I think that's what Rion meant.

If the population is where it currently is - there's 7.4 in 2 weeks then some point later 7.5 and 7.55, that's all of the content until 8.0 drops which looks to be the earliest a full year away (Nov 2026). It could be even later then that as well.

Are two patches and three fanfests enough to keep the already dwindling community afloat for a full year?
 
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