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Scream Aim Fire said:
So, since DT is basically "Fuck All: The Expansion", I want to go ahead and post a topic for anyone curious:

What jobs do you guys hope to see in the future? Me, I'm interested in Green Mage; we got taunted with it plenty before DT came out, and I've been interested in getting a proper hammer job in the game for a while now - yes, I know Warrior has some hammers, but they're axe mains first - so it's at the top of my list currently. Aside from that, I'd like to see more Ranged jobs, like a crossbow user, and I know there's been some interest in a Musketeer job. Also, a new Pure Healer job; last one we got was Astrologian all the way back in Heavensward.

Any jobs you guys want to see?
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Green Mage would be awesome, I was in the camp that it was on lock since it was teased (and then they pulled a fuck you and gave us PCT).

But my biggest desire has always been a rework of BLU to be a one job, three roles deal. Remove it from the Limited Job nonsense, and once you collect the necessary spells, allow it to become a set tank/DPS/healer that can join normal content. It has the movepool, with some tweaking and balancing it could fill any role with ease and be a great way to add three jobs for the price of one.
 
BruhSheep said:
Green Mage would be awesome, I was in the camp that it was on lock since it was teased (and then they pulled a fuck you and gave us PCT).
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It honestly feels like they were going to drop it, judging from the amount of teasers all pointing towards it; Picto just feels like something they slapped together, from what I've seen.

Who knows; maybe Green Mage will show up later?
 
Sheep King said:
For me at least healers feel somewhat different to play with abilities that play off eachother in different ways and slightly different resources to manage between lilies, aetherflow, addersgall.
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Lillies, Aetherflow, and Addersgall are all just X resources / minute, with SCH giving you the choice to directly turn the resources into damage as opposed to roundabouting like WHM. SGE has to spend that gall for mana return, like AST, which also gets so many cards / minute but mostly just has oGCD heals it banks for AoE damage moments without spending resources on it.

These differences are more pronounced when everyone is dying left and right or when you're playing at the tippy-top of progression, but outside of that... you 12111111111111111 with a few damage oGCDs in there, and the cooldown/refresh timing on oGCD heals feels the same because it's always available when you need it.

Tanks aren't really much different at all, but the fact that they go 1234 winds up feeling a lot better than 1111111111. They're both pretty trash right now.
 
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SnowBall said:
If you ever plan on doing it again use the Sophist set you get during the EW msq as a glamour for extra shit posting mileage.
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I should have re-enabled Glamourer for this, but my visual mods are stored on my external hard drive which i didn't have plugged in.

Rich Evans Ayypologist said:
Lillies
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Lilies are GCD so they aren't the same as Aethersgall.
 
Scream Aim Fire said:
It honestly feels like they were going to drop it, judging from the amount of teasers all pointing towards it; Picto just feels like something they slapped together, from what I've seen.

Who knows; maybe Green Mage will show up later?
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While I'd love to agree with this, I think the tease of it being Green Mage was deliberately done when PCT was always going to be the job. Maybe at some point it started as Green Mage, but they didn't like how it was shaping up so they pivoted. Rather than toss out some of the design work, they repurposed it (the earring being the Green Mage icon from Tactics Advance, even the mogshop green warden outfit).

Edit: for clarity, if Green Mage existed at some point, it was super early in development, and then went PCT. What little they did was repurposed, and they actively chose to tease the job when it wasn't going to be Green Mage anymore.

Another two jobs with 8.0 would be par, but at this point I want less jobs and more identity for the existing ones.
 
Is this game even worth getting into? It plays identical to SWTOR but its weebshit, helmets don't exist, and the subscription model is not nearly as generous. The Japanese insisting on a wide adoption of military grade hairgel instead. Which really kills whatever cool medieval knight theme they're going for with some armor sets.
 
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Tari said:
Lilies are GCD so they aren't the same as Aethersgall.
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Lilies are kinda interesting tbh, since they can be a DPS gain if you use them during movement or spend them so you get Afflatus Misery under buff windows.

Also, dumping lillies to get Afflatus Misery casts is a DPS gain below level 94. Misery is the potency of 4 Glare IIIs so at level 100. Misery is like a damage refund for the GCDs you spent healing so at level 100 it's got the same potency as 4 Glares. But they based the potency off of Glare III. So it's always a DPS gain if you don't have Glare III yet.

Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
Is it me or was Picto really fucking dull?
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It's helping my ass in FRU right now. I can always tell the difference when we have a Picto versus when we don't. It's probably the worst they've fucked up balance for an ult in a long time. A load of PFs are locking spots to PCT-only.

I mean, look at this distribution on FFlogs. Statistically, a 25th percentile Pictomancer is better in FRU than the best Black Mage. The PCT in my static prefers BLM as a job, but the raw damage that PCT has in this fight is just too massive to be without and lets us get away with a lot more.

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Welsh Catgirl Enjoyer said:
Lilies are kinda interesting tbh, since they can be a DPS gain if you use them during movement or spend them so you get Afflatus Misery under buff windows.

Also, dumping lillies to get Afflatus Misery casts is a DPS gain below level 94. Misery is the potency of 4 Glare IIIs so at level 100. Misery is like a damage refund for the GCDs you spent healing so at level 100 it's got the same potency as 4 Glares. But they based the potency off of Glare III. So it's always a DPS gain if you don't have Glare III yet.


It's helping my ass in FRU right now. I can always tell the difference when we have a Picto versus when we don't. It's probably the worst they've fucked up balance for an ult in a long time. A load of PFs are locking spots to PCT-only.

I mean, look at this distribution on FFlogs. Statistically, a 25th percentile Pictomancer is better in FRU than the best Black Mage. The PCT in my static prefers BLM as a job, but the raw damage that PCT has in this fight is just too massive to be without and lets us get away with a lot more.

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Jesus look at poor Machinist. Parsing below even dancer has to sting.
 
Welsh Catgirl Enjoyer said:
Lilies are kinda interesting tbh, since they can be a DPS gain if you use them during movement or spend them so you get Afflatus Misery under buff windows.

Also, dumping lillies to get Afflatus Misery casts is a DPS gain below level 94. Misery is the potency of 4 Glare IIIs so at level 100. Misery is like a damage refund for the GCDs you spent healing so at level 100 it's got the same potency as 4 Glares. But they based the potency off of Glare III. So it's always a DPS gain if you don't have Glare III yet.


It's helping my ass in FRU right now. I can always tell the difference when we have a Picto versus when we don't. It's probably the worst they've fucked up balance for an ult in a long time. A load of PFs are locking spots to PCT-only.

I mean, look at this distribution on FFlogs. Statistically, a 25th percentile Pictomancer is better in FRU than the best Black Mage. The PCT in my static prefers BLM as a job, but the raw damage that PCT has in this fight is just too massive to be without and lets us get away with a lot more.

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The worlds greatest MCH doesn't even get close to the damage of the worlds worst PCT.

This is god tier shitposting I-I kneel to you Yoshida-san.
 
Tari said:
Lilies are GCD so they aren't the same as Aethersgall.
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Addersting aspect of gall makes it the exact same, using a GCD heal/shield to fill 3 blips of a gauge to use on an offensive spell. Only difference is SGE isn't rewarded with a big hit, just even more free movement.
 
Green Mage would suck in the current role system. I get the concept, but it'd just be a gimmicky SCH/SGE, most like.

They really need to flesh out job roles a bit better instead of the overall homogenized mess they are now. But that comes with the tradeoff of 'All Jobs Are Good (tm)' not happening as inevitably the parsing trannys will find the 'optimal' configuration and tough shit MCH or SMN or whatever.
Racial Slurs the Movie said:
The worlds greatest MCH doesn't even get close to the damage of the worlds worst PCT.

This is god tier shitposting I-I kneel to you Yoshida-san.
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They really shouldn't have swapped out our aether-bullets for rubber bullets.

Is this game even worth getting into? It plays identical to SWTOR but its weebshit, helmets don't exist, and the subscription model is not nearly as generous. The Japanese insisting on a wide adoption of military grade hairgel instead. Which really kills whatever cool medieval knight theme they're going for with some armor sets.
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If you're at all nostalgic about the Final Fantasy series or are the 'married dad with 4 kids' or whatever and have an MMO itch to scratch, or have friends who play, sure. There is a lot of content, a lot of which can be experienced on the free trial. Doesn't hurt to set up a trial account and check it out yourself.

If immersion and actual role-playing is important to you, probably not. Too many of the current sets use contemporary/modern fashion which can be immersion breaking for some folks. If reading or endless cutscenes bore you, no. If you enjoy telling people to neck themselves or want high-end content on par with WoW design, no.
 
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RIPRhongoBongo said:
I'm only level 35, but Black Mage is growing on me. Don't know if was leveling Picto or just not really having anything pressing to accomplish
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BLM is still popular despite being outmoded by the funny paint class for a reason. PCT feels like a disappointing combo of BLM and Endwalker era SMN, still more fun than VPR though

I just finished levelling all my Casters on my alt, mainly for the Arbiter title. I'd like to play magic DPS more but I really can't feel like getting into it in hard content knowing that I'll just be a picto substitute.
 
I just want them to nuke PCT to the ground so that people can stop accusing me of being a meta whore or just outright saying they don't respect me because I play a busted job even though I liked PCT and thought it was cool before everyone realized it mogged everything else.
I go back to my lair now.
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Sheep King said:
I really can't feel like getting into it in hard content knowing that I'll just be a picto substitute.
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Well, that really applies to FRU and other encounters where there's a fuckton of downtime. But here's M4S:
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BLM still kills it in more conventional fights, as you might expect of a pure-damage class.
This also explains why Dancer performed better in FRU: the constant downtime allows Dancer to seemingly always have its batshit busy burst-phase ready to go.
You can look through the rest of the MxS roster here and you'll find the distribution to be similar.

Phys-ranged is obviously in a terrible, terrible spot at basically every level, though.
Dopey Cunt said:
I just want them to nuke PCT to the ground
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I don't think they really can, because the reason it's busted has to do more with their encounter design. Tinkering with the potency still probably makes it busted in fights with lots of intermissions, but maybe there's an argument that it shouldn't both be the undisputed king of those encounters while also being near the top-dog in Savage alongside.
 
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