- Joined
- Aug 3, 2021
There was an attempt with a cross-world linkshell on Crystal, but that didn't get much traction. I think there were three people in there at most, including myself?
It's not impossible, but it's a bit of a hassle. It also doesn't have to expose opsec, but as I think this thread goes to show, many users imagine themselves as better than they actually are at opsec.
As about the only way I could really see myself getting back into the game (given how the next expac looks to be more of the same: the game) would be to be able to chat with people who I can reasonably assume aren't mouth-breathing retards, I'd again lay out the steps you'd have to take to reasonably make it happen.
First off, Discord. Not linkshells. Not FCs. Linkshells and FCs operate within the game, and if you're speaking at all like actual humans speak, it's easy grounds for termination. No reason to risk throwing your account away because you like the word retard. Yes, some people have been actioned for shit they say out of the game, but that largely concerns the area of harassment campaigns as far as I can tell, which is more generally actionable even by other games that are more lenient. It's also harder to prove that this player is this account, which brings me to the next point:
Throwaway discord accounts. If your actual discord account has details pertaining to your identity, just make a throwaway one lacking it with a throwaway email. These don't play nice with VPNs, but the trick is that you can log into one on a particular web browser. So, say, if you use le shill lion for most things, use firefox to log into a burner discord and only ever interface with it there. If your actual discord account has no information that could reveal anything about you, then you wouldn't need to worry. You have to make sure you don't log out of that account, as if you run a VPN, Discord will require you to give them a phone number and otherwise lock you out. (Even then, you could just make another burner and ask for another invite, really.)
Most of the power level / opsec concerns stem from two points: people have usernames that are easily tracked, and people get comfortable in ways they shouldn't and reveal too much about themselves. These are both easy to sidestep, and yet you also have to know that they will not be sidestepped by at least a few people. Not unlike the forums here.
And there - viola. That was it? That was it. You can set up a chat channel, an LFG channel, an ERP channel, a channel to debate whether the breadbasket of the western hemisphere has bread meat and cheese, whatever the fuck you want. It really is that simple both to make the thing and to make a burner account to interact with it.
But this brings me to the final considerations, and what usually torpedoes this: sensitivity.
Some peoples' in-game character names will be tied to their real-life information, and there's no real way around that.
Some peoples' characters operate in positions of authority within the game's features that would be compromised if some dedicated, permanently-online retard spent the effort to join the server and try to 'dox' their character name.
For both of these concerns, there isn't really a way around it... well, except to make an alt character that is in no way associated with your main.
Given FF14's overall structure, I imagine most people stick with one and then drop it, but if you really wanted to find more people to play the game with who weren't total retards, you could take this route and bite the bullet. Hell, you could make a whole FC of fresh characters with no ties to anything else, and thus the only sensitivity exposure would be if you, yourself, had a blabbermouth. Well, and if someone in the FC said something that was verboten, the getup could get the kibosh, since the GMs can still see what other characters are on the account.
Which brings me to the final overall hurdle: lots of kiwis are avowedly antisocial. So even getting enough interest to get as low-maintenance of a project as this off the ground requires a bit of dedicated effort to keep advertising the idea. Because a lot of people just... don't like interacting with people.
And there's also the more clinical side of antisocial - there are a lot of people here who are not the best examples of functioning humans. Whoever runs the project expressly has to dedicate a small amount of space in their head to culling, say, people who are in their late 50s who jewsperg every fucking minute of every fucking day while lusting after women under the age of 20.
That said, it isn't like that's generally that common. Yes, if you advertised the server on something like the old MATI server, you'd probably get a lot of the underaged edgelords in the middle of transitioning that populated that server.
If you just advertise here, and you only give it to people who send a message - presto, you've got a small little server of a few folks who can shoot the breeze and (probably) just spend the entire time bitching about trannies while they grind eureka shit or whatever you people do.
Throwaway discord accounts. If your actual discord account has details pertaining to your identity, just make a throwaway one lacking it with a throwaway email. These don't play nice with VPNs, but the trick is that you can log into one on a particular web browser. So, say, if you use le shill lion for most things, use firefox to log into a burner discord and only ever interface with it there. If your actual discord account has no information that could reveal anything about you, then you wouldn't need to worry. You have to make sure you don't log out of that account, as if you run a VPN, Discord will require you to give them a phone number and otherwise lock you out. (Even then, you could just make another burner and ask for another invite, really.)
Most of the power level / opsec concerns stem from two points: people have usernames that are easily tracked, and people get comfortable in ways they shouldn't and reveal too much about themselves. These are both easy to sidestep, and yet you also have to know that they will not be sidestepped by at least a few people. Not unlike the forums here.
And there - viola. That was it? That was it. You can set up a chat channel, an LFG channel, an ERP channel, a channel to debate whether the breadbasket of the western hemisphere has bread meat and cheese, whatever the fuck you want. It really is that simple both to make the thing and to make a burner account to interact with it.
But this brings me to the final considerations, and what usually torpedoes this: sensitivity.
Some peoples' in-game character names will be tied to their real-life information, and there's no real way around that.
Some peoples' characters operate in positions of authority within the game's features that would be compromised if some dedicated, permanently-online retard spent the effort to join the server and try to 'dox' their character name.
For both of these concerns, there isn't really a way around it... well, except to make an alt character that is in no way associated with your main.
Given FF14's overall structure, I imagine most people stick with one and then drop it, but if you really wanted to find more people to play the game with who weren't total retards, you could take this route and bite the bullet. Hell, you could make a whole FC of fresh characters with no ties to anything else, and thus the only sensitivity exposure would be if you, yourself, had a blabbermouth. Well, and if someone in the FC said something that was verboten, the getup could get the kibosh, since the GMs can still see what other characters are on the account.
Which brings me to the final overall hurdle: lots of kiwis are avowedly antisocial. So even getting enough interest to get as low-maintenance of a project as this off the ground requires a bit of dedicated effort to keep advertising the idea. Because a lot of people just... don't like interacting with people.
And there's also the more clinical side of antisocial - there are a lot of people here who are not the best examples of functioning humans. Whoever runs the project expressly has to dedicate a small amount of space in their head to culling, say, people who are in their late 50s who jewsperg every fucking minute of every fucking day while lusting after women under the age of 20.
That said, it isn't like that's generally that common. Yes, if you advertised the server on something like the old MATI server, you'd probably get a lot of the underaged edgelords in the middle of transitioning that populated that server.
If you just advertise here, and you only give it to people who send a message - presto, you've got a small little server of a few folks who can shoot the breeze and (probably) just spend the entire time bitching about trannies while they grind eureka shit or whatever you people do.
I've had plenty of positive experiences with kiwis outside of the site through the burner-discord method, but I'm also a fairly social person who isn't retarded enough as to expose any alias I use anywhere else through that. FF14 is just as doable, but it does have a few extra hurdles to consider that make it a bit more involved than organizing people to play something like SS13 or even WoW.
blivion character creator as a phenotype.
