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This is pretty interesting. The suggestion, here, is that the guy was making private VODs (for whatever reason), which are different from unlisted ones in that unlisted videos can still be accessed if you have a link to them. Getting access to a youtube video that has been privated is much more difficult, unless you have access to the user's account.

So the suggestion here is that some butthurt bench-warmer actively hacked into another member's account in order to find and leak the video footage. That's pretty funny if true. That or the speaker was using private more colloquially, though the suggestion of "unusual login activity" makes me lean towards 'some retard had their character name as their password' or something.
 
Honestly, the japs are even fucking more retarded than I thought if their whole motivation for all this was salt that a JP team didn't win the last WF and to stick it to the westnerners.

Now they've earned the collective hate of the JP community as well as their shame and japs are big on honor and all that.
 
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Honestly, the japs are even fucking more retarded than I thought if their whole motivation for all this was salt that a JP team didn't win the last WF and to stick it to the westnerners.

Now they've earned the collective hate of the JP community as well as their shame and japs are big on honor and all that.
Sounds like Japanese gaming to me. Japanese arcade gamers make the western FGC tard fights look like nothing from what a friend who visited Japan told me about that had to involve the police to get everyone to stop tard fighting in a fucking arcade. Now translate that into MMOs WF racing and add national pride into the mix, its perfect.

Those damn gaijins had won too many races.
 
I've been telling people for years that the JP playerbase is basically the same as everyone else and people always think I'm full of shit and/or wrong. The only reason why their clear rates are higher is because JP raiders autistically carry everyone in their FCs through content.

Basically if NA and EU raiders could get over their crabs-in-a-bucket mentality, then we'd probably see similar clear rates across the regions.
 
What was it like with WoW? From what I understood, WoW turned their WF races into the Superbowl and there's money involved but I seem to get mixed info that it's not officially by Blizzard. What makes this incident pathetic is that they're cheating over clout and a thumbs up from the team.
 
What was it like with WoW? From what I understood, WoW turned their WF races into the Superbowl and there's money involved but I seem to get mixed info that it's not officially by Blizzard. What makes this incident pathetic is that they're cheating over clout and a thumbs up from the team.
I don't think Blizzard actually pays out for WF, it's just that there's an assload of money to be made by streamers during the races, and since WoW's hard content is designed by a chimp in an eternal arms race against the developers of DeadlyBossMods, the races usually go for a week if not more. Sometimes they only get beaten because Blizzard nerfs the boss halfway through the race. If anything, everyone except streamers going for the WF in WoW is losing money, because they have to dump thousands of dollars on WoW tokens to buy gear at the start of the patch to stay competitive.

I know Blizz used to host official e-sports tournaments for shit like Mythic+ speedrunning, but I'm not sure if that's still going because they had a slight oopsie a few years back. (they were selling mounts to fund a prize pool for the tournament, and it turned out they were pocketing the money instead)
 
Video of one of the players associated with the zoomhacker getting his shit taken away with a translation of the GM message.

tl;dr: GM basically said "I know you're associated with cheating, but we can't prove you yourself cheated so you won't get banned. Instead we will be revoking your clear (title/achievement + item) in its entirety in the coming days."

 
What was it like with WoW? From what I understood, WoW turned their WF races into the Superbowl and there's money involved but I seem to get mixed info that it's not officially by Blizzard. What makes this incident pathetic is that they're cheating over clout and a thumbs up from the team.
WoW's RWF was basically not that much different from how FFXIV's currently is up until 2016 or so. There's no in-built prize money. The big game-changer was Twitch. RWF teams could now make solid bank off of streaming their prog and roping in sponsors. But it was also a double-edged sword - the money involved meant that there was even more cash to splash on WoW tokens for gold. Which meant that serious contenders for the RWF now needed to be bankrolled because raids started being insanely overtuned (along with the general WoW problem of there being really too much gear)

IIRC it's not uncommon for Echo to spend the equivalent of ~$30,000 of WoW gold to compete in a single race. Now that's not all actual cash money they pay out (a lot of it they borrow from moneylender guilds and pay back by selling clears), but a big chunk of it is.

It's kinda weird actually. A lot of FFXIV raiders will stop playing once they've gotten BiS and finished content. But the serious WoW raiders basically do it full-time because they need to sell runs to bankroll their future prog.
 
What was it like with WoW? From what I understood, WoW turned their WF races into the Superbowl and there's money involved but I seem to get mixed info that it's not officially by Blizzard. What makes this incident pathetic is that they're cheating over clout and a thumbs up from the team.

"No, we didn't blow up the Lich King's platform with engineering bombs to give us space and save the others from falling off, it's part of the rogues' rotation, clever use of game mechanics."
 
WoW's RWF was basically not that much different from how FFXIV's currently is up until 2016 or so. There's no in-built prize money. The big game-changer was Twitch. RWF teams could now make solid bank off of streaming their prog and roping in sponsors. But it was also a double-edged sword - the money involved meant that there was even more cash to splash on WoW tokens for gold. Which meant that serious contenders for the RWF now needed to be bankrolled because raids started being insanely overtuned (along with the general WoW problem of there being really too much gear)

IIRC it's not uncommon for Echo to spend the equivalent of ~$30,000 of WoW gold to compete in a single race. Now that's not all actual cash money they pay out (a lot of it they borrow from moneylender guilds and pay back by selling clears), but a big chunk of it is.

It's kinda weird actually. A lot of FFXIV raiders will stop playing once they've gotten BiS and finished content. But the serious WoW raiders basically do it full-time because they need to sell runs to bankroll their future prog.
That's insane and a bit scary. $30k just for gearing at that?

If I was a retail player knowing this was going on, I think I would've just quit by now, mostly out of disgust for everything involved in those circumstances.

Then again, I know gil selling is rampant in XIV and RMT basically goes hand-in-hand with selling clears, making money, possibly market board manipulation, and people poorly writing erotic words into a chatbox. I think the one saving grace here is that we don't have some "XIV token" equivalent for real money to translate to, thus basically legitimizing RMT.
 
That's insane and a bit scary. $30k just for gearing at that?

If I was a retail player knowing this was going on, I think I would've just quit by now, mostly out of disgust for everything involved in those circumstances.

Then again, I know gil selling is rampant in XIV and RMT basically goes hand-in-hand with selling clears, making money, possibly market board manipulation, and people poorly writing erotic words into a chatbox. I think the one saving grace here is that we don't have some "XIV token" equivalent for real money to translate to, thus basically legitimizing RMT.
I don't even know if major clear sellers even take gil these days, Ultimate clears cost actual money because everyone kind of knows gil doesn't matter much in FFXIV after a certain point. Xeno outright admitted he paid his crafters real money at one point for his early prog. I believe Ultimates a year or so ago cost about 1.1k for someone to pilot your character to the clear. Ucob I know cost over 1k back when it was the big thing in Stormblood to early ShB.

Gil doesn't go nearly as far in FFXIV, and after awhile no one really cares about gil. I don't think XIV token would be as effective as it is in WoW Token is in WoW.
 
That's insane and a bit scary. $30k just for gearing at that?

If I was a retail player knowing this was going on, I think I would've just quit by now, mostly out of disgust for everything involved in those circumstances.

Then again, I know gil selling is rampant in XIV and RMT basically goes hand-in-hand with selling clears, making money, possibly market board manipulation, and people poorly writing erotic words into a chatbox. I think the one saving grace here is that we don't have some "XIV token" equivalent for real money to translate to, thus basically legitimizing RMT.
It's a little difficult to explain since the gearing rules are different, so I'll break down some of the major gold sinks for raiders in WoW:

1) Raid BoEs. These are items which only become bound to you once equipped so if you get one as a drop in a raid, you can just sell it. This gear is sometimes fantastic for prog but is on a weekly lockout so people who get the right ones can sell them for incredibly high prices. They talked about removing this in Shadowlands but it's such a big source of gold for players who get lucky that the playerbase pushed back and it's still in AFAIK.

2) Splits. WoW has personal loot for raids tailored to whatever your class can wear. Personal loot can be traded to other people who took part in the raid for a certain period after you complete it. So world first raiders will literally put a single member in with a full raid of 20-30 non RWF raiders who share their armor type and have everyone trade their personal loot to the RWF runner to maximize the chances of the RWF person getting all the pieces they need in a lockout. If the RWF raider doesn't get all their pieces, then they switch to an alt, grab 20-30 different people, and do it again. Everyone who takes part in splits gets paid in gold for their participation.

3) Consumables. There's no omnicrafters and the economy is run by the Chinese. Because no one who actually plays the game for fun really crafts the good shit, the prices you spend on raid consumables can really start to add up.

4) Misc. Depending on the expansion there can be other costs. Artifact/legendaries/etc (basically the WoW equivalent to relics which are usually pretty good gear unlike in XIV) can often cost the gold equivalent of hundreds of USD if you buy the materials to turn in for the quest off the auction house. For every alt a RWF runner has, they have to buy this shit if they're using the legendary whatever for that xpac. Adds up quickly. Not every expansion or patch has this but Shadowlands had a ton of it.

Basically being cutting edge requires large and continuous expenditures of gold.

I don't even know if major clear sellers even take gil these days, Ultimate clears cost actual money because everyone kind of knows gil doesn't matter much in FFXIV after a certain point. Xeno outright admitted he paid his crafters real money at one point for his early prog. I believe Ultimates a year or so ago cost about 1.1k for someone to pilot your character to the clear. Ucob I know cost over 1k back when it was the big thing in Stormblood to early ShB.

Gil doesn't go nearly as far in FFXIV, and after awhile no one really cares about gil. I don't think XIV token would be as effective as it is in WoW Token is in WoW.
Yeah basically this. Crafting is also mostly deterministic and straightforward to progress and you can be self-sufficient if you want. I haven't crafted in WoW in a long time but last I checked certain recipes for the good shit(tm) are RNG drops so even getting a crafter raid ready in a single profession can be a massive undertaking.

EDIT: Looks like Neverland and Aether Group 3 have finally cleared TOP 'legit' and posted POVs. One of the AG3 POVs I saw had the task manager pulled up at various points to show that they weren't using any addons. JP seems pretty split - lots of congrats and shit but also plenty of JP spergs showing up in the comments reeeing about how the clears aren't real unless the groups show all of their prog from start to finish in VOD form.

I don't have the patience to put in time reading a lot of moonrunes right now but I get the impression that the JP scene might unironically be imploding over this whole thing.

Anyway the final gimmick of the fight is a constantly recharging LB3 and it's unironically one of the coolest things they've put in this game in a long time.
 
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Is the ride starting again?

The channel in question seems to have removed that video since this was tweeted.
 
Now that there's been time to let 6.3 sink in I wanna say it's kinda weird how the Garlean reapers have a doll that looks like a goth e-thot as a training dummy. I guess the in-universe implication is that since there's only one guy who can make these things they just had to put up with him inserting his fetishes?
 
This just slide across my desk today, I'm not fully aware of the all of the details but coders fucking up their own software out of spite is funny.

Their is something fucked up with Gshade where if you try to use another program, which as far as I can tell is just a better installer for presets or something, it'll force restart your computer due to some line command error.

Relevant tweets here (Archive 1) and here (Archive 2)

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"Consider it similar to what anticheat software does" Because everyone loves Denuvo, what a great sale pitch to try to calm people down.
 
This just slide across my desk today, I'm not fully aware of the all of the details but coders fucking up their own software out of spite is funny.

Their is something fucked up with Gshade where if you try to use another program, which as far as I can tell is just a better installer for presets or something, it'll force restart your computer due to some line command error.

Relevant tweets here (Archive 1) and here (Archive 2)

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"Consider it similar to what anticheat software does" Because everyone loves Denuvo, what a great sale pitch to try to calm people down.
Very smart to do this and it has ended wonderfully for everyone who has ever attempted it.

No wait, it always ends with the creator imploding because the implications of being able to deliver a genuinely malicious payload make everyone dump your project like a hot coal.

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lol, lmao.

He is right in that someone is going to learn a lesson, it's not going to be this 'NotNite' person tough.
 
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This just slide across my desk today, I'm not fully aware of the all of the details but coders fucking up their own software out of spite is funny.

Their is something fucked up with Gshade where if you try to use another program, which as far as I can tell is just a better installer for presets or something, it'll force restart your computer due to some line command error.

Relevant tweets here (Archive 1) and here (Archive 2)

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"Consider it similar to what anticheat software does" Because everyone loves Denuvo, what a great sale pitch to try to calm people down.
I heard some friends vaguely bring up that there's been issues with Gshade recently, but nobody would say what. Guess this was the issue.
 
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