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@The Zekenator
Yeah, I was aware that she was a hivemind and a collective that eventually became a repository of dark dynamis essentially. I was more referring to the cinematography and portrayal of that scene before she has that emotional breakdown. It might be an extremely subjective take, but from what I was seeing and how the scene was portrayed (the scene was shot in a dutch angle and was pointing down at her face from a height much higher than her while dark Ridley Scott style music was playing which, to me at first, felt like it was implying she was talking to something omnipotent or larger than her, but you probably saw it as maybe she was looking up into space where her sisters were located) I was curious if there was supposed to a different villain at the time like Lavos or Jehova from FF7.

Before she did the report I was thinking that the Final Days was like an aetherical virus, sort of like the one from Jehova except a bit more "magical and emotional" essentially. Then comes Meteion who does make sense from a technical and lore perspective, but you can write around how a pair of headphones is a chekov's gun who causes the end of the world. The problem for me, and this is very subjective, is the scale just feels off. A little girl bird, in terms of scale, just feels dwarfed compared to what the final days was portrayed as in the game. She makes complete sense and she works, but it's the scaling that deflated the tension of the Final Days for me.
 
Gravemind said:
Was wondering where the hell you went, you sperg. Good to have you back.
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Every now and again I wanted to sperg in this thread, but I couldn't because I made a throwaway email like a retard.

I had no account, but I wanted to sperg about this weeb game.

Dave. said:
@The Zekenator
Yeah, I was aware that she was a hivemind and a collective that eventually became a repository of dark dynamis essentially. I was more referring to the cinematography and portrayal of that scene before she has that emotional breakdown. It might be an extremely subjective take, but from what I was seeing and how the scene was portrayed (the scene was shot in a dutch angle and was pointing down at her face from a height much higher than her while dark Ridley Scott style music was playing which, to me at first, felt like it was implying she was talking to something omnipotent or larger than her, but you probably saw it as maybe she was looking up into space where her sisters were located) I was curious if there was supposed to a different villain at the time like Lavos or Jehova from FF7.

Before she did the report I was thinking that the Final Days was like an aetherical virus, sort of like the one from Jehova except a bit more "magical and emotional" essentially. Then comes Meteion who does make sense from a technical and lore perspective, but you can write around how a pair of headphones is a chekov's gun who causes the end of the world. The problem for me, and this is very subjective, is the scale just feels off. A little girl bird, in terms of scale, just feels dwarfed compared to what the final days was portrayed as in the game. She makes complete sense and she works, but it's the scaling that deflated the tension of the Final Days for me.
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Fair enough, I'm not a cinematography person so I tended to look at what has overall been explained and go from there to piece together what I think is going on. I like analyzing background settings, tone, and other bullshit like that to try and read the mood, but I'm a retard when it comes to camera angles and what the fuck they mean so I didn't even consider the camera at all.

To me the simplest answer and most logical one was that Meteion was communicating with her sisters, and given where we know this is all going to go it seemed logical that Meteion would serve as the catalyst for Hermes/Fandanial/Amon etc being the way he is. I tend to not consider such reaches like you did unless I have a really solid reason to, like when Dynamis was first explained I connected its mechanics to how Drk's "Abyss" works and later on I remembered the whole Omega plotline and why Omega's purely logical way lost to what boiled down to just strength of heart and determination that Cid responded to the machine with when its calculations kept failing. I then used this to immediately be able to piece together the overarching idea of where this story was going to go, not the exact pieces, but I know almost immediately that the final boss was going to be a thematic battle of emotions. I also recall managing to sus out that Dynamis was why we could do Limit Break, which ended up being correct, but I don't recall exactly what made me come to that conclusion.

I can agree that The Final Days was kind of underwhelming relative to what it should have been and that section of the 6.0 plot is probably the most solid singular chuck the whole way through. I like scenes in other parts more, but Thavnair visit two is probably the most overall consistent in terms of getting engagement out of me. I disagree that on a power scaling level its off, and perhaps I'm just jaded by watching too much anime bullshit but Meteion being a little birb didn't really bother me. It didn't enhance anything or really speak to me in a way that I can fully comprehend why they made that choice, besides being Japan.

Maybe the idea was Meteion's transformation represents Hermes' innocence just dying and is also used to show how his naivety hurt someone who was by all accounts "pure" so making her a bird loli kind of sells that idea. It is more used to exemplify how destructive Hermes' overly emotional way of seeing the world is, as he created life and then completely ruined it for at least a thousand years. Which is humorous considering he was getting all snippy about the Elpis animals get unmade when they were dangerous and that all life should get a chance to survive, yet he created a sentient life to do a task that was extremely dangerous but all effectively mental torture for at least a hundred or so years as I don't remember how long they were in space.

Even just wandering in the dark void of space could have fucked her up, Omega is a death machine and even it felt cold and alone traveling through space for as long as it did. Meteion's hive might as well have been sent off to just be abused by the cold loneliness of space. Sure they could talk to each other, but they were physically alone throughout their travels.

Now that I type this I've come to a new thought to my overall conclusion about Hermes: He's a cruel fucking asshole.
Even if it was unintentional, the man literally never considered how Meteion might feel with this mission. While at the same time arguing that all life deserves the chance to survive, yet he in essence programmed extremely empathetic sentient beings that had to obey him to go on into space all by themselves just to do what is effectively data collection. All on an assumption that they'll find the objective meaning to life and be happy with the answer.

Hermes taking over Asahi's body makes progressively more sense the more I think about it.
 
@The Zekenator
Something we never talk about in terms of psychology, probably because the problem doesn't exist or if it does, it's usually no more large scale than "a character I made and feel attached to in a book I have to kill off!" is the idea of being a God or a God Complex or Omnipotence. Hermes, I think in some ways, felt himself a God and/or accountable for his people's actions that they took because, compared to the animals he created in Elpis, he and mankind were omnipotent over them. As an aside Hermes destroying the wolf creature in one scene felt like foreshadowing for a Jehova or omnipotent alien villain because I was thinking they were running with "mankind might be at the apex in terms of power on their homeplanet, but what if something even more powerful exists and gets to decide our fates out in the vastness of space" which would've actually retained a lot of the tension the Final Days had.

Westworld kind of touched on omnipotence and the idea of ending life we created just because their agenda would be an annoyance, inconvenience, or a danger and what the emotional consequences that brings when we think about those actions. In what ways does mankind get to decide a life they created should end or become extinct and what would the parameters be? The wolf that got put down in that scene probably was afraid for its life and so it had to use whatever tools it had at its disposal to escape or protect itself which, unfortunately, results in mankind getting hurt or killed in the process. Is that grounds for termination or extinction after we had created them and, possibly, bonded with them? Probably yes, because compared to other beings created in Elpis, they cannot be reasoned with and they cannot be debated with. They are beings who are way less intelligent than mankind. But also possibly no, because that being wanted to live as much as mankind did.

So I think that's mainly where Hermes' personal dilemma spiraled out of control and he believed that mankind, as omnipotent and powerful as it was, was on course to stagnate and destroy themselves as a direct consequence of either entropy, disagreements taken too far to the point of war, or because nothing in the world is infinite. Who were they to decide the fates of innocent beings who had a will to live just like everyone else did? Because they didn't align with their agendas? So it's fair to not empathize with Hermes at all because he's essentially a hypocrite who puts more empathy in beings who are far lesser than him and probably cannot rationalize life the same way he is, it's that psychological effect on omnipotence and the ability to create life that I think caused him to fall into an existential crisis and maybe guilt from the actions of his own people. Are they justified? I don't know, but I can at least understand where he's coming from and why he wanted to test mankind to see if they were willing to band together to fight against an apocalypse rather than live on a continuing cycle of sacrificing people to a god they would eventually throw their lot at because this god returned them the afluent life they craved. It's not justified at all, but it at least makes sense.
 
lol at the sage and reaper weapon designs that won

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Gravemind said:
To add to your point, I do believe it's also stated at some point during Elpis that Emet-Selch excels at creation magic or whatever equivalent as well, so it wouldn't be too far-fetched to assume he could just as easily recreate Amaurot entirely from his memories. In fact, the finale of Shadowbringers is basically Emet-Selch powerleveling as hard as possible, and I don't just mean the transformation into Hades.
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Emet is such a retardedly powerful creation magic user AND allegedly has the deepest aether pool of living ancients at the time if not potentially in history. He's stupid powerful. Its explained in Elpis that the only reason you are able to exist and interact at all is because he casually turns you into more than a tiny ephemeral glimmer of what could be. He does this after being passive-aggressed by his friend and with minimal difficulty.

Him making a whole city then also a section to recreate the end of it all is him trying to intimidate the Scions, WOL, and entertain himself.
 
So me and the FC im in decided to do The Dancing Plague (Extreme) a few days ago and while it was fun it was my first time playing melee DPS with Reaper in an extreme trial and struggled alot trying to juggle the mechanics alongside doing the reaper rotation.

Any suggestions on how to better handle juggling mechanics with doing DPS stuff at the same time?
 
Military Grade Jellybeans said:
So me and the FC im in decided to do The Dancing Plague (Extreme) a few days ago and while it was fun it was my first time playing melee DPS with Reaper in an extreme trial and struggled alot trying to juggle the mechanics alongside doing the reaper rotation.

Any suggestions on how to better handle juggling mechanics with doing DPS stuff at the same time?
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Keep hammering the fight into your head so you'll know exactly how and when to maximize uptime and minimize downtime. Past knowing specific mechanics for each fight, it all boils down to practice, practice, practice.
 
Military Grade Jellybeans said:
So me and the FC im in decided to do The Dancing Plague (Extreme) a few days ago and while it was fun it was my first time playing melee DPS with Reaper in an extreme trial and struggled alot trying to juggle the mechanics alongside doing the reaper rotation.

Any suggestions on how to better handle juggling mechanics with doing DPS stuff at the same time?
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Basically what the zombo hivemind said above me, if you do the fight enough, eventually it'll become second nature to you. Because the fights are choreographed, you'll know exactly when you can afford to be greedy and when you can't.

As for your rotation, it's largely the same. You play the job enough, you'll have the buttons burned into your brain so you'll be pressing buttons without your eyes ever leaving the boss, and keeping your eyes on the boss is more important since you'll need to pay attention to tells in some fights.

But try practicing on a training dummy to memorize your rotations and buttons. Don't worry about playing perfectly every time, it's a gradual thing where the more you do a boss, the better you become at killing that particular boss.
 
Pyromancer is a deranged spergaloid with anger issues.
He's so easy for people to poke and purposefully piss off because the dude just has 0 fucking control over his emotions and lacks any sort of neuron in his brain responsible for critical thinking and logical decision making.

Edit: I dunno how familiar you guys are with the whole Ginger Prime spergfest but I saw this video from him friend basically destroying every argument he had against FFXIV.
I know FFXIV isn't perfect but it's pretty satisfying to watch some mongoloid who doesn't know what he's talking about get his ass handed to him by someone who does know what they are talking about.


My favorite part of the vid is when Ginger talks about how New World is better than FFXIV because you can be a fisher with BiS gear and how you can do all this cool shit with fishing when FFXIV basically has the exact same thing which he would know if he engaged in that system but he never did so now he just sounds like a fucking idiot talking about this like it's not in FFXIV when it is.
 
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@The Zekenator
Something we never talk about in terms of psychology, probably because the problem doesn't exist or if it does, it's usually no more large scale than "a character I made and feel attached to in a book I have to kill off!" is the idea of being a God or a God Complex or Omnipotence. Hermes, I think in some ways, felt himself a God and/or accountable for his people's actions that they took because, compared to the animals he created in Elpis, he and mankind were omnipotent over them. As an aside Hermes destroying the wolf creature in one scene felt like foreshadowing for a Jehova or omnipotent alien villain because I was thinking they were running with "mankind might be at the apex in terms of power on their homeplanet, but what if something even more powerful exists and gets to decide our fates out in the vastness of space" which would've actually retained a lot of the tension the Final Days had.

Westworld kind of touched on omnipotence and the idea of ending life we created just because their agenda would be an annoyance, inconvenience, or a danger and what the emotional consequences that brings when we think about those actions. In what ways does mankind get to decide a life they created should end or become extinct and what would the parameters be? The wolf that got put down in that scene probably was afraid for its life and so it had to use whatever tools it had at its disposal to escape or protect itself which, unfortunately, results in mankind getting hurt or killed in the process. Is that grounds for termination or extinction after we had created them and, possibly, bonded with them? Probably yes, because compared to other beings created in Elpis, they cannot be reasoned with and they cannot be debated with. They are beings who are way less intelligent than mankind. But also possibly no, because that being wanted to live as much as mankind did.

So I think that's mainly where Hermes' personal dilemma spiraled out of control and he believed that mankind, as omnipotent and powerful as it was, was on course to stagnate and destroy themselves as a direct consequence of either entropy, disagreements taken too far to the point of war, or because nothing in the world is infinite. Who were they to decide the fates of innocent beings who had a will to live just like everyone else did? Because they didn't align with their agendas? So it's fair to not empathize with Hermes at all because he's essentially a hypocrite who puts more empathy in beings who are far lesser than him and probably cannot rationalize life the same way he is, it's that psychological effect on omnipotence and the ability to create life that I think caused him to fall into an existential crisis and maybe guilt from the actions of his own people. Are they justified? I don't know, but I can at least understand where he's coming from and why he wanted to test mankind to see if they were willing to band together to fight against an apocalypse rather than live on a continuing cycle of sacrificing people to a god they would eventually throw their lot at because this god returned them the afluent life they craved. It's not justified at all, but it at least makes sense.
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Yeah I can really see that and for the longest time I had a lot of sympathy for Hermes as someone who's also kind of a sap who can be overly empathetic with people who are struggling. So amplifying this with the whole God complex and I can fathom why Hermes goes as far as he does and I can on some level agree with his overall takes on how the apathy of someone like Emet is really concerning to say the least. Making life solely as effectively a play thing is just an especially cruel thing, and I can understand his pain and his drive to solve the problem.

My sort of sperg out about Hermes was upon me trying to decipher why Meteion is a bird loli I had a passing thought about how shit her journey would have been. This steadily developed into me putting together more coherently that Hermes pretty much did the exact same thing he chastised his peers for for with Meteion albeit in a more complicated way. For all the good Hermes tried to make, he really just kind of fell into all the vices of someone abusing power. Which Hermes' breakdown (both it happening and why it happened) and all the damage he caused is why I've ultimately come to the conclusion that Venat sending everyone out of such heights of power was overall a good thing. Though I know people argue if the stated reason for Venat's sundering was right as the game tried to justify it, I think the overall idea is right. Because I think humankind, as the Ancients might as well be humankind, should never have access to such power. For all its potential I can't fathom people using it properly. You give someone the power to change the world and for all their good intentions they'll fuck it up in time, as no one has the omniscient awareness of their actions to handle such absolute power. Even the "good ones" like Hermes who seems like an incredibly good hearted person will fuck it up eventually. Empathy only goes so far, we can see that on a much smaller scale with Namano wanting to give gibs.

Just as pretty much the entire game argues one man cannot rule over everyone no matter how "perfect" they are, such as with Garlemald. It feels like the game's overall narrative tries to argue against seeking perfect solutions to questions and more suggests trying to find more middle grounds and more practical if less perfect answers. In that seeking perfection you either get no answer or an overall really shitty one that only sounds perfect. The whole creation magic stuff is just explaining this on such a colossal scale that even if you had all the power in the world, seeking perfection will always fail. So instead of trying to waste time refining ourselves into absolute perfection to have some utopian solution, we can focus on what can more reasonably done now with what is possible. Which is probably a nice life idea overall I think.

Sort of like with the whole Namano vs Syndicate stuff from ARR to SB. I see Namano as sort of an early parallel to Hermes' overly good heart trying to solve a complicated issue because they're too nice. Namano must face the crushing reality that her gibs would never work long term just as Hermes must accept that life has no inherent objective meaning, and that suffrage and loss of life is just an inherent thing to accept even if it might be unfair. The scale of these two are leagues apart, but they fall into similar baskets of this sort of "Kind hearted person uses simple kindness to answer complicated problems, fails epicly." sort of narrative arcs. Namano's thing can't fuck up the world, but if she had unchecked unrestrained control like Hermes did when applying her solution she would have fixed nothing overall and Ul'dah would probably revolt in a anti-gibs vs pro-gibs riot that would probably fracture the nation eventually.

In summary: Hermes is a kind hearted fool, but still a fool and even if I can understand his issues he still fucked up in ways that can't be ignored beyond going on a nihilistic rant and trying to use science to answer philosophy. He also ruined the birb loli that he created. Also if Namano were an ancient she'd probably fuck up the world too because she's a potato too nice.
 
Dopey Cunt said:
Pyromancer is a deranged spergaloid with anger issues.
He's so easy for people to poke and purposefully piss off because the dude just has 0 fucking control over his emotions and lacks any sort of neuron in his brain responsible for critical thinking and logical decision making.

Edit: I dunno how familiar you guys are with the whole Ginger Prime spergfest but I saw this video from him friend basically destroying every argument he had against FFXIV.
I know FFXIV isn't perfect but it's pretty satisfying to watch some mongoloid who doesn't know what he's talking about get his ass handed to him by someone who does know what they are talking about.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BMciEWDtRFU
My favorite part of the vid is when Ginger talks about how New World is better than FFXIV because you can be a fisher with BiS gear and how you can do all this cool shit with fishing when FFXIV basically has the exact same thing which he would know if he engaged in that system but he never did so now he just sounds like a fucking idiot talking about this like it's not in FFXIV when it is.
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I'm almost half-way tempted to go into his chat next time he's live and say "Sylvanas is unironically better than Venat tbh" just to see him flip out. It takes nothing to piss him off he's like the FFXIV equivalent to wingsofredemption.
 
@The Zekenator
My sort of sperg out about Hermes was upon me trying to decipher why Meteion is a bird loli I had a passing thought about how shit her journey would have been. This steadily developed into me putting together more coherently that Hermes pretty much did the exact same thing he chastised his peers for for with Meteion albeit in a more complicated way. For all the good Hermes tried to make, he really just kind of fell into all the vices of someone abusing power.
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I think I feel a little surprised that it took THAT much time and contemplation from you to realize how full of shit Hermes always was, because I realized exactly the conclusion you came to right off the bat. Hell, I was ranting to friends about Hermes' hypocritical bullshit and people's weird sympathy/downright defense of him within the week of all of us finishing Elpis. I mean, fuck, Emet-Selch called out his bullshit best at the end of Ktisis Hyperborea: "That is pure sophistry and you know it."

It's one of the reasons I love XIV's narrative as much as I do because, aside from far more fanciful and optimistic outcomes besides, it has a SLIGHT grounding in reality. It's not a perfect world and there are no perfect solutions to anything. Just about the only way things will get done in any ideal fashion is through imperfect solutions and compromises, finding common ground and being able to break bread despite our differences. That whole ending to the Garlemald arc where you have small peoples in the Alliance just handing out warm food and offering a place by the fire to the displaced Garleans reminds me quite strongly of the sort of smaller scale relief efforts you see when natural disasters impact local areas (aside from hurricanes because that just seems to bring out the worst in everybody) in the southern US – people just coming together to help each other pick up the pieces and offer what they can.
 
Gravemind said:
@The Zekenator
I think I feel a little surprised that it took THAT much time and contemplation from you to realize how full of shit Hermes always was, because I realized exactly the conclusion you came to right off the bat. Hell, I was ranting to friends about Hermes' hypocritical bullshit and people's weird sympathy/downright defense of him within the week of all of us finishing Elpis. I mean, fuck, Emet-Selch called out his bullshit best at the end of Ktisis Hyperborea: "That is pure sophistry and you know it."

It's one of the reasons I love XIV's narrative as much as I do because, aside from far more fanciful and optimistic outcomes besides, it has a SLIGHT grounding in reality. It's not a perfect world and there are no perfect solutions to anything. Just about the only way things will get done in any ideal fashion is through imperfect solutions and compromises, finding common ground and being able to break bread despite our differences. That whole ending to the Garlemald arc where you have small peoples in the Alliance just handing out warm food and offering a place by the fire to the displaced Garleans reminds me quite strongly of the sort of smaller scale relief efforts you see when natural disasters impact local areas (aside from hurricanes because that just seems to bring out the worst in everybody) in the southern US – people just coming together to help each other pick up the pieces and offer what they can.
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In my defense I was frankly looking at many other angles when I was contemplating through EW's overall story, like how I feel about Zenos, trying to decipher the time travel bullshit, based Garlemald, looking at how much I actually like the overall story as I go back and forth on if I like it more or less then HW, Ultima Thule and if I should hate this zone or not, etc etc to fully figure out just how fucked the Meteion project is to Meteion herself as a sentient being. I was more focusing how idiotic the stupid question itself was that the Meteion project is meant to answer. Just one of those woosh things that happens when you go too deep in the sauce that is FFXIV's writing, missing the forest for the trees and all that.

To me FFXIV's plot at its best uses its fanciful bullshit concepts and setting to actually try to impart some semblance of how we can apply these ideas in reality. It is like one big "what-if" question, what if we could just make the uber race and have creation bullshit powers and make literal Utopia? Well it'd be kind of a shitshow, because X. Sure it may not be a true objective meditation on the idea or how it'd actually happen in reality, but it is compelling enough that I can at least find it more thoughtful and is what I enjoy in fantasy both reading and writing my own little character projects. Better then most JRPGs these days and especially a lot of shit that comes out these days in gaming like TLOU2: Best Video Game Ever Made. The amount of people who actually tried to argue ellie is the most tragic character in fiction are fucking clueless, that shit made me MATI, these people are even more illiterate then the FFXIV community.

This is why I always compare the WoL to Superman. As Superman is a stupid over the top fantasy character yes, but he in-concept represents the best of humanity can be not through his powers but how he uses them to ensure. Which is what the WoL pretty much is just without as much stupid power. The WoL is the ideal hero and in an age where heroes feel like they need to be gritty, depressed, broken, snarky, full of sass, and almost just villains to seem interesting to so many people it feels like writers in the last 10+ years forgot what a hero even is and audiences seem to think just plain heroes are boring. When I don't think these types of characters need to be boring, but you need to actually push them in some way, and 14's very imperfect world is a nice way to push the WoL/Scions even though they always win anyway. It uses the rules the heroes place on themselves and actually tries to force them to play within those rules to win, while "anti-heroes" just go "ends justify the means" and then shoot their gun or whatever to win. Which can be good, but is pretty overplayed.

That Garlemald section was really heart warming and I very very legitimately want to know, what do the Garlemalders on twitter and reddit actually think of that scene when they wanted to just genocide all the Garleans to bash the fash? I legitimately have to wonder how these spiteful fucks think of such purely human interactions? That was probably one of the best emotional moments in EW to me, EW didn't really hit me in the "feels" as much as ShB, but Garlemald messed me up and I love it for that.

Dave. said:
I'm almost half-way tempted to go into his chat next time he's live and say "Sylvanas is unironically better than Venat tbh" just to see him flip out. It takes nothing to piss him off he's like the FFXIV equivalent to wingsofredemption.
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Pyro from pre-shadowlands would have actually agreed with that probably, as Pyro was a massive Sylvanas simp because "muh waman" or whatever.

I was pretty open to having Pyro around and willing to look past his spergy shit because I liked his enthusiasm, then he made some insanely out there predictions and got mad when SE didn't follow his theories. He had some REALLY stupid Crystal Exarch prediction that I can't fully recall, and he had thought the Allagans were like light aligned counterparts to the dark aligned Ascians and that the 1st was SOMEHOW Allagans. Yes, he thought ALLAGANS were involved in Shadowbringers despite us already being told where the Allagans come from by this point. Pyro was like super into Allagans for the entirety of Shadowbringers for some reason. I have no idea how people read the story and come to conclusions like this, this is more illiterate then most MSQ hot takes.

Oh and how he thought Ultima and Omega weapon were the same thing back in ARR because despite writing the literal line down, he got lost in that conversation about how they were different. He also misunderstood how Ardbert works...somehow. I have no fucking clue how you misunderstand Ardbert at all, but sperging finds a way.
 
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@The Zekenator
That Garlemald section was really heart warming and I very very legitimately want to know, what do the Garlemalders on twitter and reddit actually think of that scene when they wanted to just genocide all the Garleans to bash the fash? I legitimately have to wonder how these spiteful fucks think of such purely human interactions? That was probably one of the best emotional moments in EW to me, EW didn't really hit me in the "feels" as much as ShB, but Garlemald messed me up and I love it for that.
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Oh, that part's easy. The Twitter crowds and "bash the fash" people run the gamut from "incredibly uncomfortable with the concept of sympathizing with fantasy Nazis" to being outright "Endwalker is written horribly and the fact that the writing tries to humanize Garlemald and have us sympathize with terrible oppressors who all deserve to die is one of the biggest reasons Endwalker's story fucking sucks" and all nuance (if it can be called such) in-between those viewpoints.

I will note in the latter's case that this tends to overlap with the people who have convinced themselves that the Ancients are horribly racist just because Hermes is a few shades darker than his peers in skin tone and, thus, is portrayed as evil and talked down to by his lily white superiors instead of being given any sympathy whatsoever.
 
Sunflower Samurai said:
I havent been keeping up with his autism in months but wasnt he malding excessively at that one golden saucer quest where you got the showoff emote shit???

I thought he had dropped off his FFXIV honeymoon by that, jesus when/if the game declines hes gonna rope if there isnt any shiny new MMO to soy over
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He did mald excessively over that side quest because he's an actual brainlet and has to make the stream uncomfortable for everyone instead of just dealing with it or even just looking up something to help him do it so he stops tard raging to himself, the game, and chat (which is enough of an issue that even Reddit hates him).

Speaking of Pyro, I was trying to remember some of his crackpot theories and found this reddit (yes I know) thread that the first half nicely outlines some of his absolutely idiotic theories. He was around patch ShB time I believe when this was made, he hadn't touched Endwalker yet.

Here is probably one of my favorites: The Crystal Tower exists on every single shard because the Allagans could cross dimensions. This is said despite him already being in Shadowbringers by this point.

Also, he somehow didn't get that Ardbert is one of many of the WoL's sundered reflections, he wrote instead that Ardbert is HALF of the WoL's soul and now they are fully whole as of the fight with Emet. I can't even fathom how one comes to this conclusion, but remember Pyro is a "lore guy" who "writes extensive notes to not miss anything". Mind you, his note taking is about half his fucking stream alongside his chat bickering.
 
The Zekenator said:
Also, he somehow didn't get that Ardbert is one of many of the WoL's sundered reflections, he wrote instead that Ardbert is HALF of the WoL's soul and now they are fully whole as of the fight with Emet. I can't even fathom how one comes to this conclusion, but remember Pyro is a "lore guy" who "writes extensive notes to not miss anything". Mind you, his note taking is about half his fucking stream alongside his chat bickering.
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Really shows that despite all his autistic note taking, he's so exceptionally retarded that he still got it wrong.
If only he was this tone deaf with the trolls in his chat, then maybe everyone wouldn't think he's such a massive, sperging faggot who plays the "muh mental health" card every time he gets triggered which is almost all the fucking time and always conveniently when someone disagrees with him about something.

I remembered that he at some point powerleveled about taking meds for his neuron issues.

He's not taking enough.
 
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