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I know, it's Twitter. But I honestly don't understand why these people keep plastering their rl stuff on their WoLs when they could just come up with a cool backstory for their character that fits with the lore.
It's basically asking way too much from these types.

This is a group that has demonstrably shown that they lack the understanding of the actual story they're hardcore fans about and now you're asking them to basically do a writing assignment demonstrating their understanding of said lore.
 
Well fucking lunacon sucked.
It seemed to be just a couple of tards huffing their own farts, I didnt even sell alot of icecream because unlike billboard-con, people took this event overly serious.
 
The most ridiculous thing is all those PoC WOLs that you find on Twitter. Like people making their character half-Desi half-Mexican and thus has suffered from racism their whole life. It just makes no sense to me because those ethnicities mean nothing in canon.
The worst one to me is the niche of incredibly, incredibly obnoxious Stormblood fans(?) that really like to talk about how Ala Mhigans aren't popular or liked by the devs for having "too much melanin". Ala Mhigans aren't based on any real life ethnicity specifically, though the geography of Ala Mhigo was drawn off of Turkey. Raubahn isn't a "proud African king", if you had to call him anything he's Turkish themed/"coded", same with all Ala Mhigans.
The only race/ethnicity in the game that I'd consider pretty blatant with the real life basis are Domans, which are just fantastical Japanese people (and maybe a bit of Chinese, looking at Yanxia).
Today Filipino Aymeric was making his rounds on Twitter too, with everyone falling over themselves to say his amazing it is for some reason.

I know, it's Twitter. But I honestly don't understand why these people keep plastering their rl stuff on their WoLs when they could just come up with a cool backstory for their character that fits with the lore.
I do see people actually put in effort and make great characters, and it's great or at least good every time, but the sad truth is that too many people posting about their WoLs online (especially Twitter and some portions of AO3) don't want to make a good or fun character/OC. They want asspats online for having all the unwritten quota boxes ticked off, while doing their best to avoid any constructive critique.
They have to always be right/only questionable in the most superficial ways, don't even consider touching Garleans or the more "problematic" aspects of Eorzea and its people, every single hot NPC loves them without much context or buildup. Bonus points if they think like you, act like you and just are you with a catboy coat of paint.

You could easily do something cool with every playable race, the possibilities are near endless with how detailed and sprawling XIV's lore actually is, but terminally blogging types will replace polishing up on lore/reading the dialogue in MSQ + sidequests with "here is my gay, trans black Viera!" and it disappoints me every single time.
 

My WoL is a ftm demisexual palestinian-ughiyr Mi'qote who is an athiest paladin uwu

His 32dd moobs always get in the way of using athiest white magic with the sword and board uwu
Omg so cool!!! Mine is in a poly relationship with Yshtola and Urianger, but that is nothing compared to yours. I am so jelly >//<
 
The worst one to me is the niche of incredibly, incredibly obnoxious Stormblood fans(?) that really like to talk about how Ala Mhigans aren't popular or liked by the devs for having "too much melanin". Ala Mhigans aren't based on any real life ethnicity specifically, though the geography of Ala Mhigo was drawn off of Turkey. Raubahn isn't a "proud African king", if you had to call him anything he's Turkish themed/"coded", same with all Ala Mhigans.
Thavnair is probably more adjacent to Turkish theming than Ala Mhigo considering you help the Elephants construct a meyhane at a late stage of their Beast Tribe questline.
 
I have a WoL backstory and a rough outline of all their arcs that lead to them being the WoL throughout the story, I've had to retcon and change things as the story explained more about the world and the WoL themselves as I guessed right and wrong about a handful of things as the story developed from late ARR and beyond (The biggest fuck up I made was in 3.4 where I completely misunderstood what Ardbert was talking about), but I pretty much tried to make everything except the very start prior to level 1 as canon as I could to the actual plot.

I pretty much never post it anywhere at all as I assume no one really cares because most of it is just the MSQ with monologuing between moments as my character ponders various things about their status. As the WoL lacks external threats, I had to make every problem they have more internal that funnily enough nicely aligned with the story itself as post SB my WoL effectively wanted to quit this bullshit and ShB was a nice way to solidify their status as hero. I even have secondary stories for their retainers somewhere. It was pretty much just used to help me get more into the story because I enjoy roleplaying in general, so it seemed like a fun way to pass some time as it is a pretty self contained narrative (especially post 5.0).

I remember writing something akin to a memoir letter that my character sent out to the entire world after EW ended where my character reflected on everything that had happened as they recounted their entire life up to the end of 6.0 and told their side of the story after being the more or less silent protagonist for the most part, I recall them telling Zenos to go to the seven hells and that she was glad that he died for good as they want on a massive tangent. My character despised Zenos probably more then any other antagonist for thinking their philosophy and reason for fighting was guff, even after the point where I actually liked him okay by the end of EW as a character it made no sense IC for my WoL to like Zenos at all.

I don't see the point of making a WoL OC if you're not going to follow the story, besides obvious self insert masturbation obviously, because the WoL is pretty much immovable from the MSQ canon. Breaking that canon effectively denies their WoL status and at this point you're just making a type of normie OC (which would be fine) at best, and not the actual WoL. And having multiple WoLs running around is incredibly messy if you're not really careful.

It must be fascinating to care so much about writing this dogwater, about loving a story so much that you want be part of it for real, and yet you can't actually read.
 
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I don't see the point of making a WoL OC if you're not going to follow the story, besides obvious self insert masturbation obviously, because the WoL is pretty much immovable from the MSQ canon. Breaking that canon effectively denies their WoL status and at this point you're just making a type of normie OC (which would be fine) at best, and not the actual WoL. And having multiple WoLs running around is incredibly messy if you're not really careful.
Noooo you don't understand. My wholly unique OC fox-wolf girl (with half-dragon blood, but not like Ishgard dragons, but a totally unknown type of dragon found in Garlemond) is part of the Eorzean chapter of Antifa and here is the first of 4,347 posts why they're canonically and lore-accurate,
 
I pretty much never post it anywhere at all as I assume no one really cares because most of it is just the MSQ with monologuing between moments as my character ponders various things about their status.
I am thankful that I have a friend where we exchanged stories with, both for ff14 and settings we've made up on our own.
One thing I love doing is incorporating my friend's characters to my own since we do dungeons a lot together, so they're (head)canon as far as I am concerned, minus them being WoLs and just adventurers my character met and spent time with.
Funny one is my friend who's character is just an older retard. Think a toned down Hildabrand who is sorta a stereotypical redditor (m'lady) who has no clue what's going on 90% of the time, but loves to fight and get hit. He doesn't really know who the Scions are really except the women. Overtime he has grown fond of our characters and sticks around, but that is also because he doesn't have much else to do. This is tied to the fact he is a tank main, skips the story, and doesn't care to know it. /SPOILER]
 
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I am thankful that I have a friend where we exchanged stories with, both for ff14 and settings we've made up on our own.
One thing I love doing is incorporating my friend's characters to my own since we do dungeons a lot together, so they're (head)canon as far as I am concerned, minus them being WoLs and just adventurers my character met and spent time with.
Funny one is my friend who's character is just an older retard. Think a toned down Hildabrand who is sorta a stereotypical redditor (m'lady) who has no clue what's going on 90% of the time, but loves to fight. He doesn't really know who the Scions are really except the women. This is tied to the fact he skips the story and doesn't care to know it.
I have a friend who has their own RP story, but our stories are far too different to exist at the same time unless we retcon a bunch of shit on both sides to force it together. We effectively just share our stories and compare or contrast for fun and make hypotheticals of what our characters would do if they did somehow meet.
 
but our stories are far too different to exist at the same time unless we retcon a bunch of shit
We just strip out the WoL stuff from each other and just fill in the blanks on what our characters would do otherwise based off what we know. Thinking about it, I don't think we've ever really talked about it besides joke scenarios.
 
Well, as I am a sucker for glowy weapons, and all of the summoner relics leave something to be desired (almost went for anima, but good lord the plastic tacky wings ruin it), I figured I'd check just how "horribad" the grind for the Zeta weapons is.

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As it turns out, the rumors around the grindiness are vastly exaggerated, now, I know some people did them during ARR, and I can imagine that multiplies the ass factor by a great deal, as not only you were not able to cheese the mozzarella out of some sections by unsyncing (and some FATEs allegedly having their rates adjusted), but the hand wringing I've seen about the book stage was very much from this past year or so, and entirely unwarranted.

Much to my surprise the main offender is tedium, as you have to teleport and run about like a headless chicken hitting 3 monsters before you must port again, or server hop to get certain FATEs; it's certainly not as much of a hands off process as Anima, where you can passively grab the materials from roulette tomestones, but I was expecting some Tibia or Silkroad grind the way people were talking about these things.

Overall, not bad, might make one or ten more, when I decide what job's getting a glow stick next.
 
As it turns out, the rumors around the grindiness are vastly exaggerated, now, I know some people did them during ARR, and I can imagine that multiplies the ass factor by a great deal, as not only you were not able to cheese the mozzarella out of some sections by unsyncing (and some FATEs allegedly having their rates adjusted), but the hand wringing I've seen about the book stage was very much from this past year or so, and entirely unwarranted.

Much to my surprise the main offender is tedium, as you have to teleport and run about like a headless chicken hitting 3 monsters before you must port again, or server hop to get certain FATEs
The fact that book phase is pure tedium is entirely why the complaints are fairly warranted.

Like, man, I got a second Zeta in the last year for another class and, as someone who did the original grinds for both Zeta and Lux back when they were each current, while it's significantly less tedious now than it was back then, it's still tedious. Lux less so than Zeta, but still.
 
The worst one to me is the niche of incredibly, incredibly obnoxious Stormblood fans(?) that really like to talk about how Ala Mhigans aren't popular or liked by the devs for having "too much melanin". Ala Mhigans aren't based on any real life ethnicity specifically, though the geography of Ala Mhigo was drawn off of Turkey. Raubahn isn't a "proud African king", if you had to call him anything he's Turkish themed/"coded", same with all Ala Mhigans.
The only race/ethnicity in the game that I'd consider pretty blatant with the real life basis are Domans, which are just fantastical Japanese people (and maybe a bit of Chinese, looking at Yanxia).

I do see people actually put in effort and make great characters, and it's great or at least good every time, but the sad truth is that too many people posting about their WoLs online (especially Twitter and some portions of AO3) don't want to make a good or fun character/OC. They want asspats online for having all the unwritten quota boxes ticked off, while doing their best to avoid any constructive critique.
They have to always be right/only questionable in the most superficial ways, don't even consider touching Garleans or the more "problematic" aspects of Eorzea and its people, every single hot NPC loves them without much context or buildup. Bonus points if they think like you, act like you and just are you with a catboy coat of paint.

You could easily do something cool with every playable race, the possibilities are near endless with how detailed and sprawling XIV's lore actually is, but terminally blogging types will replace polishing up on lore/reading the dialogue in MSQ + sidequests with "here is my gay, trans black Viera!" and it disappoints me every single time.
I see Ala Mhigo as some hybrid of Vikings (highlanders have vikingish surnames) and the middle east with a hint of India (those lion statue enemies are called singha) and for some reason, Scottish.
 
Now that the dust has settled and the LunarCon convention has finally subsided and the afterparty has moved on despite the con ending literally two fucking days ago I can go ahead give my personal write-up on what I thought about it in general and what I personally think could've made it better. My overall opinion on the convention was this; it was just fucking boring. There was NOTHING to do in game except stand around and stare at people because there's nothing you can do in game other than just standing around and staring at people at these fucking gatherings. Socialization was non-existent other than people just complimenting dresses or spamming emotes obnoxiously or, if you really want to feel utterly aggravated and ready to strangle someone, spamming shout with "TRANS RIGHTS" non-stop for no reason.
The Best:
Crystalline Conflict Tournament
--I will admit that I had moderate expectations for this tournament, but having watched it, I did actually find myself entertained. It was actually fun to watch people pvp in game and listen to shoutcasters like Kougaon and Rin Karigani who, to their actual credit, are pretty good shoutcasters although Kougaon on his own is very lackluster. It's not a perfect event, however, and I feel like the teams could've had interviews done or maybe something to get to know the teams, because it was difficult to root or cheer on any of the teams because I had no idea who they were.

I expected to hate the portraits and team makeups in this event because I thought narcs would just flex their "screenshot capabilities" with their portraits, but I was pleasantly surprised that the teams themselves actually did some clever and cute things with their makeups. Hotline Eorzea was basically the leather jackets and animal masks from Hotline Miami (you guys might find it cringe, but I find it kind of loveably cheesy in a way but also Hotline Miami is fucking fun), Bees had yellow and black uniforms, and team see wore blindfolds. Just kind of cool ways they made uniforms. People were also gathered around the Wolve's Den with the glowstick emotes and I thought it was kind of cool too and funny when people who had no idea what was going on were saying "why is this place so full?" when they came in.

Pint's How to Make People Cry-- Pint, at least in my opinion, is a genuinely talented content creator and while the subject matter he discussed in the presentation wasn't for me (he talked about the trials and errors of content creation), he presented it in a entertaining way. I don't really much else to say on this, but the reception he received from this panel was overwhelmingly positive and he got a good rating from me so he succeeded here.

The Good:
The Art Party
--This, on any other day, would be a generic event that nobody would attend and would probably get ignored on party finder. Putting it in a convention with a heavy following and a large turnout was going to be a safe event that was obviously going to be fun for people who love art and seeing their characters drawn. It's not very ambitious, but it was an event that I actually did surprisingly have fun. For me, it is genuinely fun to see how artists draw and interpret your character in game and see how they draw it. I stuck with the more obscure artists in this place and even if the works themselves weren't good, it was still flattering to get compliments and seeing how they draw and see the character through their eyes. I can't show you them here because that's doxing, but I got a few and I had fun talking to them on discord. I also took a couple screenshots that I unfortunately can't show here either and that was also pretty cool.

Eorzean Aquarium--It's a genuinely cool venue. You can view my screenshots in an earlier post.

Are you Smarter than A Sharlayan-- Trivia. I like playing trivia every now and then so that was fun as well.

The "Meh":
Literally everything else except for the black marks
-- I don't really have anything to talk about with everything else. the D&D X FFXIV panel was just a guide on modifying a ruleset for D&D to fit in with the FFXIV game world which has its use for some people, but not for me because I don't really play D&D. The PRISM and Songbird performances are impressive technically, but because the instrument system is jank as shit in this game, it ends up sounding like midi tunes looped and layered over each other and, to me at least, it sounds grating. The contests were fine, I don't really disagree with any of their winning choices, but there's really not much you can do to make a contest ambitious or impressive. The DJ events are impressive to some people, but they don't really impress me at all. I don't really hate DJ events either, but I can't bring myself to care about them. Lunar Auction is... lunar auction... it's basically an in game live market board except backwards.

The Black Marks or The Worst:
This is my favorite part because I get to rip into events that legitimately pissed me off or made me cringe.

The Big Cheese Panel-- Utterly useless. You learn nothing in this panel and the information you do learn is fucking worthless. What annoyed me about this panel was that people would non-stop spam cheese or hand out cheese in trade unprovoked like it's a fucking meme and it drove me insane to witness it constantly.

Tips and Tricks of Fanfic--If you really love seeing a tranny shove his ugly original character in every. fucking. slide then this is for you. Useless information you'll find doing a google search on "tips and tricks to become a better writer" and witnessing one of the most hideous looking pink haired roegadyn adjacent to it for no discernable reason. Seriously, this fucking panel sucked and the narcissism from the panelist is aggravating to witness.

The Four. Fucking. Fishing. Panels-- Why? Why have four panels dedicated to the single most boring activity in the game?

Esprit Performance-- This one didn't annoy me so much as make me cringe. It's essentially the technical step performance from last year. It's FFXIV "dancing" and "choreography" where people macro actions and use it to dance to music. The characters do not move, they don't work in unison with each other, and they never walk the stage. Even if the characters did move and walk in unison of each other I'd still probably cringe because macro dancing is taking something that doesn't look good in the first place like choreographing spell effects and trying to make something profound out of it using cute kitty cat girls and bunny women. It's very hard to take seriously and it's also jumping the gun because they're simply embarrassing to witness.

Open Glamour Showcase-- Bunch of rando narcs who want attention and camera time.

Yep, that was Lunarcon 2022. It's ambitious event admittedly, but you cannot substitute IRL social interaction of actual conventions (allegedly, never attended one myself) and meet and greets of voice actors and comic artists or other people with a video game. In fact this entire event jumps the gun in that regard because it's trying to be something it simply cannot be. It's impossible. Maybe people can have fun with this event and admittedly, it went pretty smooth minus the jank servers Squeenix has implemented which caused overcrowding of housing districts.
 
I see Ala Mhigo as some hybrid of Vikings (highlanders have vikingish surnames) and the middle east with a hint of India (those lion statue enemies are called singha) and for some reason, Scottish.
Also see some Shaolin with some Indo-Aryan influence mixed, almost in the same bizarre mixture Diablo 3 did. But can see some Ottoman-Persian influence in Ul'Dah, though it's a little too blatant.
 
after months of ignoring my re-play through alt i finally made it to my favorite HW primal fight, ravana. i love that bug man so much.
 
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