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I miss whatever wave of feminism was happening when I was a kid. It got made fun of a lot, but was honestly kinda based and harmless. Feminists were like "Barbie has biologically impossible body proportions and sets unrealistic expectations for girls. Sexually objectifying women is bad." But then normie liberal feminism died in a consent accident, and now I'm sitting next to her corpse, listening to her rasp mechanically "If you say Barbie is unrealistic, you're literally bullying the millions of women who have waists smaller than their heads. But what if that 16 year old Romanian girl chose to be a seX wOrKer? Stop body shaming!"
 
Shakira Flabbergasted said:
I miss whatever wave of feminism was happening when I was a kid. It got made fun of a lot, but was honestly kinda based and harmless. Feminists were like "Barbie has biologically impossible body proportions and sets unrealistic expectations for girls. Sexually objectifying women is bad." But then normie liberal feminism died in a consent accident, and now I'm sitting next to her corpse, listening to her rasp mechanically "If you say Barbie is unrealistic, you're literally bullying the millions of women who have waists smaller than their heads. But what if that 16 year old Romanian girl chose to be a seX wOrKer? Stop body shaming!"
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2nd wave feminism is a cancer spread by non-Whites (Jews), 3rd wave feminism is a cancer spread by non-Whites (Blacks), 4th wave feminism is a cancer spread by non-Whites (3rd worlders).
 
I think a lot of what people think is 'feminism' is actually 'egalitarianism' and I blame Emma Watson for some of this. All that 'he for she' activism she did, and all the celebrities/public figures who went that 'feminism is for everyone!' bullshit route. No, egalitarianism is for everyone, feminism is for females only. We'll know we're on right track when people disentangle these two things.
 
Stabby_Pencil said:
I think a lot of what people think is 'feminism' is actually 'egalitarianism' and I blame Emma Watson for some of this. All that 'he for she' activism she did, and all the celebrities/public figures who went that 'feminism is for everyone!' bullshit route. No, egalitarianism is for everyone, feminism is for females only. We'll know we're on right track when people disentangle these two things.
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I'm not great at expressing ideas about sociopolitical subjects, especially in discussion, but I will say that I definitely agree with you on disliking the sentiment of selling feminism as universally applicable. Mostly because of the fact that I feel it reflects a frustratingly common human inability to give a shit about a cause unless it's explicitly about a demographic one identifies with.

I'm probably just retarded as all hell, but I struggle to understand why people so often need to put on someone else's pair of torn and dirty shoes filled with rusty nails to understand that those shoes are fucking awful and feel like something should be done about it.
 
weirdMcGee said:
The whole anal, choking, bjs, and straight sex in general discourse on X as solidified why I'm neither radical or liberal. Both sides are legit retarded.
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Shakira Flabbergasted said:
I miss whatever wave of feminism was happening when I was a kid. It got made fun of a lot, but was honestly kinda based and harmless. Feminists were like "Barbie has biologically impossible body proportions and sets unrealistic expectations for girls. Sexually objectifying women is bad." But then normie liberal feminism died in a consent accident, and now I'm sitting next to her corpse, listening to her rasp mechanically "If you say Barbie is unrealistic, you're literally bullying the millions of women who have waists smaller than their heads. But what if that 16 year old Romanian girl chose to be a seX wOrKer? Stop body shaming!"
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Quoting these two posts together because they connect to the point I want to make.

The other day when I was at work, that song Blurred Lines played on the radio and it made me think about how feminists or at least women that do call themselves that went
scorched Earth on both the song and its music video. You could say the reaction to it was very strong, regardless whether you think this reaction to a sleazebag song was warranted
or not.

I then compare it with the current state of online "feminist" "activism". Where now your online Twitter "feminist" is a pink hair dyed she/they clown named Ebony who despite calling herself that lacks any melanin, with the OF in the bio where she makes only like 20 dolleerdoos per month and pinned post being "Help a queer woman with her rent in NYC!!". Who despite identifying herself as "bisexual", she only has sex/ with/dates men while making thousand of posts about how "being a lesbian is more romantic" on her Twitter despite the thought of actually being with a woman never crossing her mind, with the bisexual label only being there for stolen valor/brownie points, giving me and women that disagree with her, an entire Egyptian tomb of an essay about how actually being choked, beaten and raped during sex is awesome sauce because SHE enjoys it and you're a conservative TERF purtian, fuck the research papers that shows how choking and anal became popular due to porn, particularly hardcore/violent porn and how women are very likely to be harmed in BDSM, even in situations where they "consented to it". All of this is accompanied with her purposefully missing the point of what women criticizing these things were trying to convey.

I don't like doing the whole "lol blue hair libshit woman" meme because it's an incredibly low "gotcha" and I think when rightoids do it, it's emberassing because it reveals they never really moved on from those 2010s SJWS REKT videos. But, the amount of "feminists" I seen in replies who fit that exact description? My God.

Oh and the fun part about this? Even when this type of "feminist" calls you and other women that disagree with her "TERF bitches" and tell you that they do not want your support because you don't roll out the red carpet for troons, they will absolutely expect you and the other women they antagonized to stick up for them because they are "fellow women" and also be the ones in the front lines fighting for women's rights, because they are too busy being cheerleaders for leftist men and male to male trannies (also leftist men).

I seen somebody call these types libido "feminists" and I think this name is very fitting for them. This term will now never leave my dictionary.

I think what really poisoned the well in terms of having any intelligent and nuanced online discussion about feminism in online spaces is this insufferable self-individualism
along with the "EVERYBODY's opinion, ESPECIALLY YOURS matter" millenial therapyspeak bullshit that has been echoed within these 10-15 years on the Internet. But to be fair,
I do not this is only an issue in online feminists communities/spaces, but this is just an issue on the Internet in general, in any space.
 
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